Jose Mourinho
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danielneeds
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It’s worrying because there’s been absolutely zero change to anything after the little new manager bounce. Obviously he’s not had a massive amount of time on the training pitch, but we’re still not running much, not competing for 50-50s, not working hard as a team. As a starting point, it’s a pretty worrying state of affairs.
rossdapep
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I said at the time that appointing Jose would salvage some of this squad and that Poch had lost them. I thought Toby would have at least been better though. I think that could just be down to the whole system though as we're not playing with an adequate DM and everyone is getting exposed.
Whilst I am starting to realise one or two more players are no longer up to it as I originally thought, I still think the likes of Kane and Son would have started to eye the exit door. Jose has at least bought us time.
The ball is in Levy's court now. Poor investment in the next 7 months and not only will Jose be getting frustrated, Kane will almost certainly be asking to leave.
Whilst I am starting to realise one or two more players are no longer up to it as I originally thought, I still think the likes of Kane and Son would have started to eye the exit door. Jose has at least bought us time.
The ball is in Levy's court now. Poor investment in the next 7 months and not only will Jose be getting frustrated, Kane will almost certainly be asking to leave.
Goofster
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I agree but I don't think the manager is the issue. There's something rotten within the player group, it's toxic and has been like that for a while. José needs time to identify the bad eggs and find replacements for them. This is just a personal feeling but I believe the players we need to move out are higher profile and will require alot of work to find replacements for. Sure he could play the kids but we wouldn't get results at all that way and it wouldn't give us anything for the future shattering the young players confidence. If we're not a force come the new season when José had a summer window to adress what needs to be done with the team then it's maybe time to start questioning the manager. Just my oppinion though.
Stamford
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Poch was never the whole problem but he has played his part in why we are here.
Ossie85
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Does he now? Our biggest deficiency is DM by a very big margin. Yet we don't seem to be after any DM. Not one DM has been linked in the media or by any ITK.
Ossie85
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I think Mourinho is starting to realize that Poch made some players look better than they actually are.
I know it's early days, but there's been no change in how we play. I hope Mourinho signs several players this window, or it's going to be a long season
I know it's early days, but there's been no change in how we play. I hope Mourinho signs several players this window, or it's going to be a long season
It's interesting you say that, he mentioned today he set us up without a 'positional midfielder'.....which I take to be a DM. He said similar after the Norwich or Southampton game I believe. Don't know if that's just to send out a message that he doesn't have a good enough option in the squad and needs to backed in January.
SpursSince1980
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I hear what you’re saying about Dele, but I fear he really messes with the current team balance. He needs great players around him to thrive. Right now there’s a whole lotta average around him. So his weaknesses get accentuated. He gives the ball away so much and slows down the game to a crawl. That was in stark contrast today when Lo Celso and Lamela came on. Their quick movement and tenacity was so much better than Dele.
My concern is Joss hitching his wagon to a star on the wane.
DanielJohnCosta
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average squad or not you CANNOT tell me we shouldn't be beating the quality of a championship team.
That is 100% on the tactics of the manager
That is 100% on the tactics of the manager
SpursSince1980
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The result was not 100% the fault of the coach. That doesn’t pass the straight face test. He can’t make players stop playing passively or making mistakes. Their goal came from Jan losing focus. Again. With the exception of Moura all of our players (until Celso and Lamela came on) were dreadful and lackadaisical.
He set the team up in a way he was hoping they would be able to defend deep and hit the opposition on the break. Sadly his tactics couldn’t account for Winks being a moron again, Eriksen phoning it in again, Deles brother showing up again, Son having a jolly in the park again, Jan limping around like a broke cock again, Aurier unable to cross again and Dier being Dier again.
What should be plain for all to see is that we don’t having a coaching issue. We have a players not giving a shit issue,
LeParisien
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95% of media stories are bs. Why would you expect the media to get any one position of need right when they have a 5% hit rate?
One reason they might - and why we should have been linked to DMs - is that they make stuff up to keep your interest. So in that sense it’s surprising.
Also, not sure DM is obviously more a concern than fullback.
Danny1
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Really struggling to understand how people are already writing off Mourinho. He has been at the club 6 weeks, tried almost every player in different positions and almost all of them have failed their audition. On top of that he has had injuries / suspensions to his key players in:
Lloris, Sanchez, Davies, Ndombele, Son and Kane.
Let’s give him atleast one summer window shall we, he has taken over a group of uninterested average footballers in all honesty and our best players are listed above in the injured/suspended group.
We have hired one of the highest rated young coaches in the world in Joao Sacramento and the other guys are all massively rated, so not sure why people think it’s just Mourinho on the training pitch. Let’s give them a bit of time.
Lloris, Sanchez, Davies, Ndombele, Son and Kane.
Let’s give him atleast one summer window shall we, he has taken over a group of uninterested average footballers in all honesty and our best players are listed above in the injured/suspended group.
We have hired one of the highest rated young coaches in the world in Joao Sacramento and the other guys are all massively rated, so not sure why people think it’s just Mourinho on the training pitch. Let’s give them a bit of time.
Stamford
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The same people writing him off are the very same who demanded Poch be given as long as he needed despite being in relegation form for months.
yawa
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A lot of people wanted him to fail due to their love of Poch and Jose having managed rivals.
The normal things usually come out such as him falling out with players. Working well with Pogba these days isn’t it?
Or that he doesn’t play youth. Ignoring the fact his first Chelsea team were the youngest winners of the premiership ever.
double0
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If you weren’t aware that Pochettino was magic please take note.
Mourinho is a juggernaut in football management, you can’t argue with his achievements especially at a club that has barely won anything in the last 30 years.
He is finding out that certain players are past their sell by date at Tottenham and will need to more on for the sake of their careers and the club moving forward.
I sat there watching on paper a strong team for us against Middlesbrough the performance was piss poor. Mourinho for the first time I noticed showing real concern on the touch line our players weren’t playing at the right speed or did they show enough technical ability to win the game... basically not good enough.
Pochettino knew this tried in vain getting Levy on board for the squad to be refreshed - some of his comments were ill advised ie if he’d of won CL that was it for him.
I can’t see this squad doing anything of note without serious investment players coming in players moving on, it annoyed me to hear we’re not making moves this transfer window.
Mourinho is a juggernaut in football management, you can’t argue with his achievements especially at a club that has barely won anything in the last 30 years.
He is finding out that certain players are past their sell by date at Tottenham and will need to more on for the sake of their careers and the club moving forward.
I sat there watching on paper a strong team for us against Middlesbrough the performance was piss poor. Mourinho for the first time I noticed showing real concern on the touch line our players weren’t playing at the right speed or did they show enough technical ability to win the game... basically not good enough.
Pochettino knew this tried in vain getting Levy on board for the squad to be refreshed - some of his comments were ill advised ie if he’d of won CL that was it for him.
I can’t see this squad doing anything of note without serious investment players coming in players moving on, it annoyed me to hear we’re not making moves this transfer window.
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Wsussexspur
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Harry Kane's injury is a problem for Jose Mourinho’s style of play
Harry Kanes absence will hurt Tottenham more because of Jose Mourinhos style of play, writes Adam Bate.
pretty depressing reading
stevenurse
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The problem with that graph is that the long balls/results ratio isn't one that correlates. Some of the games in which we played the fewest long balls were those with the poorest results and performances. Also the term 'long ball' is disingenuous as there's a difference in a hoofed long punt and the balls Toby plays that we saw at Burnley.
When Liverpool do it to get behind the defence it isn't highlighted. It's just getting the ball forward quickly to the pace they have up front. It's not a bad tactic to get the ball in the opposition half.
We also forget that if the players we have can't play like Barcelona at their peak, that's no fault of Jose.
When Liverpool do it to get behind the defence it isn't highlighted. It's just getting the ball forward quickly to the pace they have up front. It's not a bad tactic to get the ball in the opposition half.
We also forget that if the players we have can't play like Barcelona at their peak, that's no fault of Jose.
Yes Poch was right that we needed a rebuild, but that was pretty clear to most. Our form since Christmas 18 has been shocking and it's baffling that some are already jumping on Jose's back regarding results. The squad we have just simply aren't good enough due to a shocking transfer strategy over the past few seasons. You have to continually refresh the squad and I'm sorry but it's a shared responsibility. Poch supposedly turned down many players who would have considerably strengthened us due to his stubbornness (Maddison, Tielemans etc...). ENIC and Levy also have to take responsibility for being reactive instead of proactive. They should have fully backed Poch when we were close to winning big things but instead failed to do so. We have built a fantastic stadium and training ground and we have an amazing structure to take the club forward but we are now in an extremely tough period and Jose needs to be significantly backed and given the required time. Bringing in around 4 or 5 players over the January and Summer transfer windows as well as having a fully fit Ndombele could be all it takes to really drive the club forwards.
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