Match Threads Spurs vs Chelsea - Match Thread

heinsmit · Dec 22, 2019

karennina said:
Why do YOU think you're not venturing / articulating the disagreement you obviously feel? Maybe you can tell there's nothing that will sound lucid when you type it out.

I hardly post on here anymore but I had to log on to tell you you're an absolute shitgibbon. I sincerely hope comments like this, excusing racist behaviour and blaming it on whichever political ideology doesn't fit yours, in a fucking football forum, will not be tolerated.

Talk about lucid arguments. Fucking hell. You are absolutely deluded

Rout-Ledge · Dec 22, 2019

karennina said:
Not identifying the causes is a recipe for it continuing. No excuses made. Reread the post. You're projecting.

I think the cause of racism is racists

mil1lion · Dec 22, 2019

Sissoko is such a dilema. He played well again today but he's a right central midfielder which doesn't suit the shape of the team. I hope the Son suspension leads to a switch to the inside right position now wih Ndombele central and Moura in Sons position. With our problems technically in centre midfield it's crazy to sit Ndombele and Winks on the bench, even Skipp is an option. It's not like we don't have technical players, we just don't start them enough.

yankspurs · Dec 22, 2019

Dr Know said:
Lol, as far as I know (we’ll from commentary) there was only one incident (racism) do you mean the stuff being thrown at their keeper too?

There were 3 stadium announcements.

fronyl · Dec 22, 2019

Sevens said:
I ask this each time. What is it with Celso? I have seen nothing to suggest he is good enough to start in our first team and yet every week there is this cry to start him in central midfield (which is out of position for him)?

Compared to the two we have there now? Couldn't be any worse, could it? He looks a lot more like a footballer than the others, looking up trying to find options. His downfall has been being played out of position and with players that aren't able to keep up. Anyhow he would play in a three with an anker behind him or in Allis position. He would retain the ball a lot better than Alli as well

TheVoiceofReason · Dec 22, 2019

karennina said:
Bullshit. I didn't positively specify a cause. No one even knows these people's names yet let alone their history. I suggested that the left's - real - hyping of race conflict might be a cause, which it very well might - a subject for further inquiry. I don't see what your problem is beyond reading a definitiveness into my post which wasn't there.

Please enlighten me what you mean by race conflict?

You mean like a white football supporter making monkey chants at a black player?

ClintEastwould · Dec 22, 2019

Primativ said:
i'm actually speechless about how bad that was. Make no mistake, that was as bad as anything I've seen in the last twenty years. Even against Bayern Munich when we got spanked we played far better than that.

Chelsea hardly had to play above a 7 out of 10 to completely dominate us.

Kane ambled around like he didn't give a fuck.

Having a right side of Aurier Sissoko and Moura is just fucked.

We spent over 100 million on two ball playing technical players yet it's now at Xmas and those players are benched whilst we play eric fucking dier and sissoko.

Jesus wept.

To be honest we spawned the win against Wolves, we were totally outplayed.

Until Mourinho wises up and realises that unless he drops the shit players and starts signing or picking better ones, we are going to see much more than that.

Sissoko has improved but let's not forget he was a calamity player until 18 months ago, and Dier is just utterly dire, yet they are now are starting central midfielders. Deary me.

This! Why in the fuck are we playing those two when we finally let the purse strings out?!?

I’m livid.

spursbhoy67 · Dec 22, 2019

The fan(s) will be found and banned for life and rightly so, but giving Chelsea the moral high ground is the real kick in the gut.

karennina · Dec 22, 2019

Rout-Ledge said:
I think the cause of racism is racists

This essentialism won't help us solve the problem. It will only obstruct understanding.

frost14 · Dec 22, 2019

karennina said:
Bullshit. I didn't positively specify a cause. No one even knows these people's names yet let alone their history. I suggested that the left's - real - hyping of race conflict might be a cause, which it very well might - a subject for further inquiry. I don't see what your problem is beyond reading a definitiveness into my post which wasn't there.

yusrisafri said:
F*** you, you f***ing ostrich

yep, that's the way to deal with people with a different view than yours haha.

Kingellesar · Dec 22, 2019

The idiot who threw the cup and the idiot who racially abused the Chelsea players aren’t fans, they are scum.

Lampard outclassed Mourinho today with the tactics and game manageement. This is on Jose and the players. They should have changed it after going 1 down but no we stubbornly carried on.

Also Son needs to calm down, stupid reactions from him again, we won the free kick just get on with it.

Very disappointing day as it feels like all this hard work to get back within touching distance of them has been thrown away but we need to pick ourselves up and get the win on boxing day.

This squad is in such a bad state though, good luck to Jose trying to sort this mess out.

Dr Know · Dec 22, 2019

Ronwol196061 said:
Ndombele was the only footballer out there today. Yes its easier to blame our worse players but Son,Moura,Dele and Kane,our stars, did nothing or in some cases even less.
Sissoko probably completed more percentage of passes that all of them four together.

I thought Sanchez did quite well

dbspurs · Dec 22, 2019

For the love of Spurs said:
disagree, our players are overrated well some of them are.

Some are but I still maintain that without a top mentality you will win nothing. Look at the average players Leicester won the League with.

EnfieldYiddo · Dec 22, 2019

I expect neg ratings and maybe this is emotion talking but...

Anyone else feeling like they have been conned by Jose's PR charm offensive?

Laid bare, we seemingly benefited from the classic new manager bounce but reality is we haven't played well in any game aside from Burnley.

I felt like Jose was brought in for the big occasions yet against both United and Chelsea we looked arguably worse than ever.

I get possession isn't always effective and under Poch it at times felt pointless but it feels like we have gone to the other extreme.

I genuinely can't remember one period of sustained pressure in any match under Jose.

I'm hoping it will come good but can't say I'm filled with much confidence, he is seemingly not learning from his mistakes which was the downfall of Poch.

TonyS · Dec 22, 2019

I was at my boys U9 futsol game yesterday. It was friendly game, in Florida, with nothing at stake. The kids still wanted to win and my boy, who on his day is good, was awful. He was second to every ball and looked lethargic, a bit like Spurs players today.
With three mins to go in his game, I laid into him, told him to get stuck in, play like ha can and get something out of the game.
What happened? He stepped up, put in a great last three mins, and on top of it, scored the winner.
What has this to do with today's game you say?? Well, our boys today are professionals, get paid tons of dough, have the best of everything available to make them masters of their craft and to put in a shit performance like they did, is totally unacceptable. If my son can raise his game, then surely , surely our beloved Spurs players can theirs, in a game that would have put us in fourth and made a solid statement going into 2020.
I bet they will be on SM with the usually nonsense, which for me, is bullshit. Sort your shit out and put in an effort. None of them bar one maybe, deserved to wear our shirt today. Money grabbing legends.
Sorry for the rant, but today fucked up Christmas for me or should I say "The Holiday Season"

Fidget · Dec 22, 2019

yiddopaul said:
As far as these racist morons go, people sat around them need to grass them up. You all have cameras on your phones. Video it, they will know who sat in which seat. They should be banned from ALL sporting events for life, they should be named and shamed and if it's a criminal offence then they also need to be locked up. Simple.

Should be them thrown out of the country. Replace them with brilliant NHS staff

g_harry · Dec 22, 2019

Seriously need to get Rose and Aurier out the door. They are like a cancer to the team. Negative attitude and behavior. Thought they had talked about our slow starts. Well tonight they didnt even star it was absolutely disgraceful preformance against one of our biggest rivals. So the Chelski kids come to our new stadium and just walk over experienced pros. Well done spurs knew you had it in you.

SonicSarr · Dec 22, 2019

These are the games we employed Mourinho to win. Shocking. He had no idea. Made no decisive subs ... nothing. I sat with 2 Chelsea fans and couldn't say fuck all.

Metalhead · Dec 22, 2019

I reckon that we should all avoid drilling down too far into politics on this thread. Suffice it to say that pricks who do racist chanting are morons and get what they deserve when hopefully caught.

As far as the game goes, hopefully most people knew before the game that our issues wouldn't be fixed in a short period of time and today showed that.

Jamturk · Dec 22, 2019

I think Poch was right in that we needed a major refresh.

It's no coincidence that we are struggling against youthful, energetic, athletic teams. (United, Chsea, Sheff Utd, Wolves....)

It's like the elastic has gone from our players legs, we look heavy and cumbersome and second to every ball.

I think Levy is looking to eek out the last of their juice with appointing Mourinho, a manager known for liking more experienced players.

Unfortunately I think the game has moved on.

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