Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

easley91 said:

The new beast of White Hart Lane.


That is all.

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Senegal showed how ridiculous the ‘pace and power’ stereotype of black soccer players really is

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Paul Pogba’s ‘pace and power’ stresses need for rethink over BAME coverage | Sachin Nakrani

Language used to describe Frenchman’s revival highlights importance of the debate sparked by Raheem Sterling’s Instagram post

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Take the column Jamie Redknapp wrote for the Daily Mail following United’s 4-1 victory against Bournemouth in December, in which he spoke about Pogba’s “pace” and “power” and how the midfielder “knows he is bigger and stronger than you” in regards to his second goal of the game, a 33rd-minute header. There has been similar from others, including Graeme Souness during his punditry stint for United’s 1-0 win at Tottenham, when the Scot spoke a lot about Pogba’s hard running and muscularity during a contest in which his most telling contribution had been the pinpoint delivery that set up Marcus Rashford’s goal. It is all well intended – and, it should be noted, Redknapp and Souness both went on to praise Pogba’s technical traits – but the dominating aspect of the analysis feeds into narrative that follows black athletes around, namely that their primary attributes are physical rather than creative or intellectual.
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The same narrative explains why certain black players – think Patrick Vieira, Yaya Touré and Mousa Dembélé – are referred to as “beasts” and why, on a broader level, there are so few black coaches and managers. To stress, much of this is unintentional – the type of unconscious bias we’re all guilty of – but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be addressed.

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thefierycamel said:

Well I only mean this season, thus far. There's no denying Kane probably is our best player, and son would be right up there too, but on level of performance this season Ndombele has been the best imo. The guy is mustard

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GMI said:

French mustard. We should call him Dijon N'Dombele

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LeParisien said:

Don’t say that on here. There’ll be people wanting to call him Colemans or whatever You English people have.

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punkisback said:

I'm not accusing you of anything; but i think we should really be careful about the adjectives we use to describe our players:

Senegal showed how ridiculous the ‘pace and power’ stereotype of black soccer players really is

www.sbnation.com

Paul Pogba’s ‘pace and power’ stresses need for rethink over BAME coverage | Sachin Nakrani

Language used to describe Frenchman’s revival highlights importance of the debate sparked by Raheem Sterling’s Instagram post

www.theguardian.com

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ToDarrenIsToDo said:

What an absolute farce of a post. Harry Maguire is a beast, Harry Kane is a beast, Ronaldo is a beast stop making things worse than they are. What's wrong with the world he clearly isn't saying how you're implying so stop making issues upmto make yourself look like a better person!

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Kiedis said:

These last weeks, when watching Spurs have been tough, I've sort of comforted myself by looking forward to watching Ndombele. Such a fantastic player, with a range of passing we've not really seen since Modric. He had one in the first half which took so many players out of the game and nearly played Son one on one with the keeper from a situation that really didn't look dangerous.

He's so effective and creative and also genuinely fun to watch with all his wiggles and turns. Crazy that richer clubs let us have him.

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Ndombele on Spurs decision and Poch's powers of persuasion

Tanguy Ndombele says Mauricio Pochettino's powers of persuasion coupled with a tantalising 'project' convinced him to join Tottenham rather than another one of Europe's elite clubs.

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Blake Griffin said:

watching psg vs lyon and tanguy ndombele for lyon has stood out. 20 year old combative cm in the wanyama mould but also looks pretty adept at breaking forward, should've won a penalty early in the game but the ref bottled it. lyon also have a mendy at lb who looks and plays very similar to his city namesake.

edit: just thundered a shot off the bar from 30 yards (ndombele that is) -

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ToDarrenIsToDo said:

What an absolute farce of a post. Harry Maguire is a beast, Harry Kane is a beast, Ronaldo is a beast stop making things worse than they are. What's wrong with the world he clearly isn't saying how you're implying so stop making issues up to make yourself look like a better person!

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LeParisien said:

Yes it reads like someone who believes any time that sort of description is used for a black person it reinforces a negative stereotype, even when that description is true.

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punkisback said:

I've never seen or read the above players described as a beast on this forum. All three are physical athletes and all bigger than Tanguy, but i have never seen them used to describe them.


I wouldn't say this description is necessarily true for Tanguy; his skills are more technique and finesse than physical. In fact people where denigrating his lack of physique and fitness!

Trust me things like this do happen! People stereotype. I've been stuck on the wing or up top previously when joining new teams to add some "pace up top" when i'm probably one of the slowest.

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