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But that's a debate for another thread.....
- Nov 24, 2013
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Who knows. One thing's for sure though, with Poch having been just provided with three new players at not inconsiderable expense, it's a bit early for anyone to be talking about him leaving.
JayB
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What it comes down to for me is that IMO last season's awful form was primarily a product of the disgracefully threadbare squad which had been heavily fatigued by the world cup, could not be rotated much over the course of the season, and eventually succumbed to a genuine injury crisis. The players were completely and utterly knackered by the end of the season but they didn't suddenly become shit.
By and large we've fixed the underlying issue now with the signings of Ndombele and GLC. We've got real squad depth in CM which has the knock-on effect of bolstering our squad depth in attack because it means the likes of Eriksen and Dele should not have to be moved out of their natural positions to paper over the cracks.
The problem is that we've yet to integrate those new signings fully and have had a rash of injuries and players affected by the European transfer window. It's still very, very early in the season and both of those problems ought to take care of themselves first with the closure of the window, secondly with those who have been injured or suspended being restored to the side and getting up to speed, and finally with Ndombele and GLC being integrated.
This squad has dramatically more to offer than what we've seen in the first few matches of the season, which have been rocked by tumult largely outside of Poch's control.
By and large we've fixed the underlying issue now with the signings of Ndombele and GLC. We've got real squad depth in CM which has the knock-on effect of bolstering our squad depth in attack because it means the likes of Eriksen and Dele should not have to be moved out of their natural positions to paper over the cracks.
The problem is that we've yet to integrate those new signings fully and have had a rash of injuries and players affected by the European transfer window. It's still very, very early in the season and both of those problems ought to take care of themselves first with the closure of the window, secondly with those who have been injured or suspended being restored to the side and getting up to speed, and finally with Ndombele and GLC being integrated.
This squad has dramatically more to offer than what we've seen in the first few matches of the season, which have been rocked by tumult largely outside of Poch's control.
wrd
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I'd hate to think he's done here, I think that yesterday was the moment that the paper over the cracks has finally worn thin and things have to change but I hope Poch is the one that incites that change.
Thewobbler
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I posted in the utd thread that the fans had turned on them already after 3 games and the wheels had fallen off, and now we are here with this thread.
Poch has finally got his players in, the ones he wanted. Lets just wait and see what happens when he has them all on the pitch together. Lets see where we are at when the international break comes around. Hopefully most players will back this weekend and we can get a winning run started.
Poch has finally got his players in, the ones he wanted. Lets just wait and see what happens when he has them all on the pitch together. Lets see where we are at when the international break comes around. Hopefully most players will back this weekend and we can get a winning run started.
Spurs_S.A.
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With MP saying this is the “most unsettled squad” he’s worked with, what happens if the unsettled players don’t get their move or they wait to January. Can you see the situation getting any better?
There is certainly something not right but I’m not sure it’s due to “unsettled” players.
There is certainly something not right but I’m not sure it’s due to “unsettled” players.
You're acting like Poch has taken over a team battling relegation? we have a really strong squad, you seem to think it's acceptable that we've been so poor because of various reasons, but I completely disagree. We continually lost games last season against vastly inferior opposition, we are hardly a cobbled together shadow of a squad that Poch is turd polishing.
fortworthspur
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have we even had any offers for any of them? not sure its the club's fault. We DID block Modric and he came back and performed like a professional.
SpursSince1980
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This is the uber point that I'd like to think the vast majority on here agree with. We rode our luck last year. We were ineffective in many, many games. Not just the last fifteen.
The main difference was that we somehow were managing to win those other games. But I wouldn't say there was a massive gulf in our overall effectiveness during the course of the season. Some better games. Some better halves than others.
But, by-and-large, I think our performances were fairly consistent. The one plus, is that we were able to grind out some results, and to our benefit those who'd challenge us for a top 4 place, were frackin' awful over the last five or six games of the season.
So, this isn't about losing to Newcastle. This is about feeling frustrated and annoyed. Feeling let down. Because, if you agree that last year was a tough slog, then you probably hoped you'd see a team emerge from the outset, that were simply playing better. That's not been the case. It's been more of the same. And if not for a few timely moments, here and there, plus a bit of luck, we'd be looking at 0 points from 3 games. And that would be shocking, but not unreasonable given what we've seen so far.
rossdapep
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If Poch got rid of Walker because he was angling for a move behind his back then I completely support him on that.
If he got rid because Walker had the hump and Poch decided he'd passed his best than that is a huge worry. (Didn't he say that?)
I know Poch is about the collective and I'm with him on that but sometimes you've got to let some things slide.
robertgoulet
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I think you could look at the match as it played out (Kane penalty, Son possible penalty), xG, etc... and say if we played that exact same way 10 times we'd have won 7-8 times.
Should we have played better? Hell yes. But we could play that same game with the same team and same subs over and over and again and expect the outcome to be different more often than not.
There are issues that need fixing but the doom and gloom is wild.
stevenurse
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If you saw 'domination' against Villa and Newcastle then that's an issue. Heaton made what 1 decent save against us, and Ndombele scored from the resulting rebound. Domination for me would be a team hanging on and their keeper having a worldy. Newcastle were more than happy to take a point, so having 80% of the ball means fuck all. They didn't want it. It became attack v defence after they scored, and their defence dominated our attack. Possession % and number of passes are by no metric a barometer of domination. They could have easily scored one or two more than us based on the chances they had. Considering they got into our half about 6 times all game that's very concerning
scat1620
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Massive disagree on this point from me. IMO, dominating a football match requires inspiration and chance creation in addition to having the majority of the possession. Having all of the ball but still looking less likely to score than the other team is not domination in a football game as I see it.
Tonio
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Any other poster? did I say that?
Mr Pink
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I thought we were poor against Villa until the first goal flew in. They were troubling us more I felt.
Thewobbler
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Didnt walker have the hump because he was getting rotated a lot and missing some big games? Could be bullshit and Ive just made that up.
I dont think we will carry on with results like that yesterday.
Certainly not blaming the club. I was just curious that the “unsettled” squad was just a side dish. In my opinion it runs deeper than that.
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