Team v Burnley

I've made my feelings about @mpickard2087 abundantly clear, but I won't be bullied into not posting my team just because he wrote it first.

Also, Stambouli is predictive text for 'Shambolic'. Lol.

THFCSPURS19 said:

The only reason he didn't play there for Roma was because of Totti. He played there before he went to Roma, I believe. Even if you ignore that, it's still easy to see that Lamela has all the attributes to play very well at CAM and probably much better than at RM.

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Regardless of that though he's in very poor form and I for one think he could do with a little time out.

Spurs_Bear said:

Lloris
Walker Fazio Vertonghen Davies
Stambouli Bentaleb
Dembele Eriksen Chadli
Kane​

I've made my feelings about @mpickard2087 abundantly clear, but I won't be bullied into not posting my team just because he wrote it first.

Also, Stambouli is predictive text for 'Shambolic'. Lol.

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Can see what you and pick are getting at but I wouldn't trust dembele there as I don't think he'd be disciplined enough on that side and would drift central too much (of course his remit would be to cut in but I can only see him loitering in the middle if played there), he'd be more effective on the left and would be inclined not to drift toho deep inside.

I just don't trust this player as a starter, but he's a good option at the moment to come on and play central or left of the 3.

If we were at the stage where the A3 rotated properly (due to advanced understanding between the players) it wouldn't be such a prob, but at the moment I wouldn't stick him there.

Also, don't like his recovery ethic, generally, as he walks and watches counter attacks too much.

Spurs_Bear said:

Lloris
Walker Fazio Vertonghen Davies
Stambouli Bentaleb
Dembele Eriksen Chadli
Kane​

I've made my feelings about @mpickard2087 abundantly clear, but I won't be bullied into not posting my team just because he wrote it first.

Also, Stambouli is predictive text for 'Shambolic'. Lol.

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All that whining and you still didn't even pick the same team as me. Sort your left back out.

thinktank said:

Can see what you and pick are getting at but I wouldn't trust dembele there as I don't think he'd be disciplined enough on that side and would drift central too much (of course his remit would be to cut in but I can only see him loitering in the middle if played there), he'd be more effective on the left and would be inclined not to drift toho deep inside.

I just don't trust this player as a starter, but he's a good option at the moment to come on and play central or left of the 3.

If we were at the stage where the A3 rotated properly (due to advanced understanding between the players) it wouldn't be such a prob, but at the moment I wouldn't stick him there.

Also, don't like his recovery ethic, generally, as he walks and watches counter attacks too much.

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This is my concern with Dembele as well. I think he'd probably be very good from an attacking perspective in that AM 3, but we need those players to be pressing and I'm not sure how much he has that in his locker.

As for whether he'd drift centrally, I don't know if that would be as much of an issue, as he's played in that wider role before and was pretty disciplined.

At the moment for me though, I'd rather try Mason in that more advanced role based on hos performances so far this season.

team'll be

I'd take Fazio out and play Dier, would be nice to see him polay in his actual position. Mason has gone off the boil recently as well:

Hugo
Walker Dier Vert Davies
Bouli Bentaleb
Lamela Eriksen Chadli
Kane

beats1 said:

TBF Stambouli for a tough tackling defensive midfielder lets alot players go past him

Mason adds more to attacks imo, he actually busts a gut to get forward and in the box(something we aren't seeing from others)

Also Mason been scapegoated against Swansea for the poor play from the front four, every time he moved the ball forward that front four couldn't string two passes together

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Agree with that, but it's hardly a reason to do the same thing again. We need a player in there who will win the ball back when we inevitably cough it up. The Bentaleb/Mason partnership got next to nothing out of Swansea and Burnley will be ready for a scrap IMO.

mpickard2087 said:

All that whining and you still didn't even pick the same team as me. Sort your left back out.

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Oh will you wind it in...

THFCSPURS19 said:

The only reason he didn't play there for Roma was because of Totti. He played there before he went to Roma, I believe. Even if you ignore that, it's still easy to see that Lamela has all the attributes to play very well at CAM and probably much better than at RM.

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Which is unfortunate for him as Eriksen and arguably Kane are better there, meaning he's at least 3rd in that particula pecking order. If he can't do a decent enough job on the right/left side of the 3, then he's out of the team at the moment.

Bulletspur said:

Lloris

Walker Fazio verts Rose

Stambouli

Dembele Eriksen Chadli

Kane Soldado

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Nearly the same personnel as me, except I've gone for Bentaleb over Stambouli.

Position wise I went for Dembele central with Eriksen to the right of him. I would however have the 3 AM's interchanging positions.

0-Tibsy-0 said:

Did you highlight the wrong line? Because it contradicts your last paragraph?

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What did I say? He presses well. That's it. What happens after that? Zip. Nothing.
He presses...gets the ball... 2 dribbles...runs inside & conjest the space....Rabbit in headlight moment ....defenders picks his pocket...run again...

Is this the point of Pochettino ' philosophy ?

THFCSPURS19 said:

The only reason he didn't play there for Roma was because of Totti. He played there before he went to Roma, I believe. Even if you ignore that, it's still easy to see that Lamela has all the attributes to play very well at CAM and probably much better than at RM.

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No it is not easy to see that he has every attributes...As I see it, he doesn't at all have right foot, making his game 1-dimensional. I even doubt his vision. He is a instinct player. He does good things when he plays faster. But on most occasions when he has time, he doesn't know what to with ball.

I think it's a case of either eriksen or lamela at mo as not sure playing both is good balance-wise for the team.

Eriksen obviously comes out top on present form and potential he has shown, although I have posted previously he does also need to man up a little and be a bit more consistent. Winning us games when things aren't going necessarily completely our way, which to be fair he has done but also there have been a heck of a lot of games where he hasn't pkayed to his potential.

Our strongest team is coming together.

Loris obviously is nailed on, and three of the back four are decided (Walker, Fazio, Vertonghen) while Rose and Davies are both acceptable options on the left.

Bentaleb is doing very well, and there is a choice to be made between Mason and Stambouli that should be taken on a game by game basis. (There are games where I would like to see all three play in a 4-3-3 but that is probably not going to happen.)

Eriksen looks good in the No 10 role, with Chadli cutting in from the left, while Kane is an automatic selection, albeit lone striker is not his best role.

The problem position is wide right, the candidates being Lamela, Townsend, Lennon and Dembele.

Lennon can probably be discounted unless for tactical reasons we switch to 4-4-2 for individual games (which at times we should).

Lamela for all his undoubted talent does not provide enough individual brilliance to compensate for the deleterious impact he has on our team play: I am not convinced that as things stand we can afford to be patient with him. His role at the moment should be impact sub.

Townsend comes in for similar criticism, but does at least stretch defences. With a return to full fitness and a willingness to listen to coaches he could make the position his own, but he is not there yet.

Dembele has shown before he can play in an advanced role (though only against Newcastle!) The issue with him is always his willingness to take responsibility, but playing him in a position where a five yards sideways pass is not an option could be the making of him.

That for me now is the core of the squad, with Vorm and Dier as the principal back up. The rest are dispensable; our key priority for the January transfer window is a striker to take some of the weight off Kane's shoulders and allow us to play him sometimes in a deeper role. (I have given up on Soldado while Adebayor is in the last chance saloon.)

So for Burnley:

Loris

Walker Fazio Vertonghen Davies

Bentaleb Mason

Dembele Eriksen Chadli

Kane

Subs: Vorm, Rose, Dier, Stambouli, Lamela, Townsend, Adebayor.

thinktank said:

Lloris

Walker Faz Verts Davies

Stambouli Bentaleb

Mason Eriksen Chadli

Kane​

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You Sir deserve to be in the dugout on Saturday. A spot on selection.

ShaunL84 said:

Masonz Bentaleb and Stambouli vs Burnley? Zero goal threat from those 3 virtually.

Lloris

Walker
Vertonghen
Fazio
Davies

Bentaleb
Dembele

Lennon
Kane
Eriksen

Soldado

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So a "zero" goal threat you say, but you'd drop Chadli?










Yup, that makes perfect sense..............

eddiebailey said:

Our strongest team is coming together.
Loris
Walker Fazio Vertonghen Davies
Bentaleb Mason
Dembele Eriksen Chadli
Kane
Subs: Vorm, Rose, Dier, Stambouli, Lamela, Townsend, Adebayor.

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Great post. I agree with 92.3%.
MoPo has to realise this is Burnley not Newcastle. He screwed up with tactics and selections for the Chelsea game after Everton.

I would go more open 4-4-2

Lloris

Walker Fazio Vertonghen Rose

Bentaleb Mason

Townsend Eriksen

Kane Ade

arunspurs said:

No it is not easy to see that he has every attributes...As I see it, he doesn't at all have right foot, making his game 1-dimensional. I even doubt his vision. He is a instinct player. He does good things when he plays faster. But on most occasions when he has time, he doesn't know what to with ball.

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Bale didn't have a right foot.



Such a 1-dimensional player.

Burnley is actually coming together, and I don't think we could have met them at worse timing. 11 of their 15 points are won from the last 6 matches, 1 more point from the last 6 than us. QPR defeated them with an aggressive game plan, attacking down the wings and going for long shot opportunities. I think we need to field anyone and everyone who carries above average likelihood for scoring. Walker & Rose are given due to how they work the flanks, and somehow I'd love to field all of Kane, Soldado, Eriksen & Chadli.