The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 11 January 2011
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duffster
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People wondering about Neville and why we'd want him, it may simply be the prosaic reason that he covers 3 positions (RB, LB & CM) and in these days of 25 man squads that's an ideal squad man/substitute.
I'm not in any way advocating that we should sign him, I'm merely saying its not that difficult to see why we'd want to.
I'm not in any way advocating that we should sign him, I'm merely saying its not that difficult to see why we'd want to.
Mr Pink
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I agree with you Muffster :grin:
faze_coys
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gallas has played no better than dawson, kaboul, or bassong for that matter...
hes had few stand out games but actually has been consistently average (minus the first few games which were poor)
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I'm not overjoyed about the prospect of PN, but I'm not absolutely horrified either.
He's a pain in the arse to the oppo, tackles well, runs all day, works hard for the team and never gives up, and can play in multiple positions. As duffster says, he's a useful squad player.
I'd rather we didn't sign him, and in all honesty I think of him as a crap Jamie O'Hara, but I can see the thinking behind it. He's the type of player that can be brought on when you're 1-0 up with 20 to go and need to shore things up.
Not exactly an inspirational signing though, nor a statement of intent. I'd only feel accepting of the PN signing if we also got ourselves the striker we need, and possibly something in midfield as well (I've run out of patience with JJ).
He's a pain in the arse to the oppo, tackles well, runs all day, works hard for the team and never gives up, and can play in multiple positions. As duffster says, he's a useful squad player.
I'd rather we didn't sign him, and in all honesty I think of him as a crap Jamie O'Hara, but I can see the thinking behind it. He's the type of player that can be brought on when you're 1-0 up with 20 to go and need to shore things up.
Not exactly an inspirational signing though, nor a statement of intent. I'd only feel accepting of the PN signing if we also got ourselves the striker we need, and possibly something in midfield as well (I've run out of patience with JJ).
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Not doubting the info but I thought Keane wanted to stay local in London, to be honest I can't see Keane going, there was hardly a bidding frenzy when Brum were in the race for him.
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I think the main plus point for a move for Neville, as unglamorous as it may seem, is consistency. I can't remember a time when a winger has given him a torrid time at FB and as others have said his leadership qualities provide another boost to our ever increasing team winning mentality. He's not a MOTD player and is unlikely to be seen marauding down the flank whilst delicately placing the ball in the top corner, but as a squad member could prove a great 2nd half insurance policy player who can cover a few problem positions.
Dan Ashcroft
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I can't really see Pienaar or Neville playing much of a role if they did come - they would be our 3rd best LM (after Bale and Krancjar) and our 3rd best RB (after Corluka and Hutton) respectively.
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He'd be second choice (as much as I like niko) also the thing with Pienaar as with neville they can both play a number of positions.
stevenurse
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If liverpool were his boyhood club too i couldnt see him going there, but then again the info just said that they have asked, not that it would happen
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I can see how getting Pienaar (who can cover for Modric, Bale, Lennon and possibly VDV or allow Modric to play in VDV's position) and Neville (who can cover RB, LB and DM) would be a good idea with the new squad regulations. I'd even be ok swapping Keane for the two of them, but only on the proviso that it wouldn't leave us short of money for a striker. If anything stops us getting Suarez or an equivalent, I'll be deeply unhappy. Otherwise, I can see that it might improve the squad as a whole.
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Yes, Dan. But there's all manner of stuff you can't see.
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Think of PN as our Wes Brown and O'Shea - unspectacular but necessary. Versatile, experienced player who can do a job for us. As long as it doesn't cost the world, I'm not against it and tbf, if 'Arry is for it, I'm not going to complain about it.
I'd be interested in the idea of swapping Keane and a bit of monies for PN and Pienaar, would strengthen our squad alot.
Oh and don't get me started on the pillocks whinging about Gallas. If you think the bloke has been a failure etc, take your gooner hating glasses off. The bloke has been magnificent since joining on, don't forget, a free contract. But hey, he played for Arsenal and Chelsea so he is automatically shit regardless of what he actually plays like.
I'd be interested in the idea of swapping Keane and a bit of monies for PN and Pienaar, would strengthen our squad alot.
Oh and don't get me started on the pillocks whinging about Gallas. If you think the bloke has been a failure etc, take your gooner hating glasses off. The bloke has been magnificent since joining on, don't forget, a free contract. But hey, he played for Arsenal and Chelsea so he is automatically shit regardless of what he actually plays like.
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You know what, I've reflected on this. But still can't really figure it. Neville is a tenacious little terrier. He also brings leadership qualities. But in no other way does this make sense. I understand why Corluka (way, and I mean way, too slow to be a RB) and Hutton (decent, aggresive, attacking but defensively not the quickest or smartest) need to be upgraded but they need to be upgraded, not backed up or replaced with with another flawed and aged RB.
Neither Neville, nor Peinaar, are the type of players that will increase our ability to challenge for titles or top4's with the likes of Arse, Chelsea, ManC, ManU etc.
Surely any players we bring in now should be improvements that relegate existing players down the pecking order.
Neither Neville, nor Peinaar, are the type of players that will increase our ability to challenge for titles or top4's with the likes of Arse, Chelsea, ManC, ManU etc.
Surely any players we bring in now should be improvements that relegate existing players down the pecking order.
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I think I read somewhere that Everton were one of his other boyhood clubs.
jurgen
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Our first team is of the quality that we'll probably only be able to afford (in January at least) to improve where we most obviously have to - up front.
Neville and Pienaar would relegate existing players down the pecking order. Just within the squad rather than the first team. Contrary to what Dan says, I believe Pienaar would become our first sub in midfield and/or a starter at times, definitely in front of Niko, and Neville would fill in across a number of positions and possibly even be the first choice RB in the tougher games..
Neville and Pienaar would relegate existing players down the pecking order. Just within the squad rather than the first team. Contrary to what Dan says, I believe Pienaar would become our first sub in midfield and/or a starter at times, definitely in front of Niko, and Neville would fill in across a number of positions and possibly even be the first choice RB in the tougher games..
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Failed ? Almost as good a signing as VDV I reckon. Absolute quality, we've missed him.
I think you'll find Rdknapp's insistence on playing every game like a 1950's cup final - or "open" as he likes to call it - is more of an influence on our ability to keep clean sheets.
Very unusually, I completely agree.
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