Bobbins
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Yes, we lost to ManUtd, but can we please stop going into catastrophe mode
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Bobbins
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Pretty sure that's half the reason certain people are members.
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TBH, I've been all up for this on the match thread - but I really thought Swansea could do something against the Mickeys tonight, and I've just watched the lucky Scouse gits fluke a win that was far more against the run of play, far less deserved and far more down to sheer luck than any of the Spurs wins that have had our supporters whinging about how we just ain't deserving these wins while eulogising the Mickeys for being the best footballing side the World has ever seen and constantly playing super-great football*. Now, I just don't know - Brendan Rodgers has got away with so many of these ultra flukey wins over the last couple of seasons, I'm starting to believe he is The Dark One (with his pathetic one arm salute and the Mickeys singing we are Liverpool na na na na NA like they've played some amazing ball as opposed to just lucking out games...the ****s) 
*When they are really just lucky!
That's a weight off my chest
*When they are really just lucky!
That's a weight off my chest
EastLondonYid
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What hurt me was not the result, or the fact we may have blown top 4..
What hurt me more was that in just 90mins we managed to damage the reputation we had worked so hard to achieve this season that we were no longer a soft touch from down south that would just roll over in the big games.
I think Poch's major task is to get the players to perform against the top clubs when we are expected to do well , not just when we're the underdog.Teams rate us now and take us seriously, but unfortunately we are nowhere the billing we are getting yet, so if we don't turn up and aren't fully on it we are not good enough to beat the top teams and subsequently get turned over.The Arsenal performance was the bar we set.....
Thats why i believe,and hope, that the Man U defeat, and the manner of it, will spur us on and would have hurt us enough to have a successful run in.....hope so.
What hurt me more was that in just 90mins we managed to damage the reputation we had worked so hard to achieve this season that we were no longer a soft touch from down south that would just roll over in the big games.
I think Poch's major task is to get the players to perform against the top clubs when we are expected to do well , not just when we're the underdog.Teams rate us now and take us seriously, but unfortunately we are nowhere the billing we are getting yet, so if we don't turn up and aren't fully on it we are not good enough to beat the top teams and subsequently get turned over.The Arsenal performance was the bar we set.....
Thats why i believe,and hope, that the Man U defeat, and the manner of it, will spur us on and would have hurt us enough to have a successful run in.....hope so.
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dricha1
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And to add to this, we've pretty much dealt with all lower half teams well since November (stoke game)
shelfboy68
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TBH, I've been all up for this on the match thread - but I really thought Swansea could do something against the Mickeys tonight, and I've just watched the lucky Scouse gits fluke a win that was far more against the run of play, far less deserved and far more down to sheer luck than any of the Spurs wins that have had our supporters whinging about how we just ain't deserving these wins while eulogising the Mickeys for being the best footballing side the World has ever seen and constantly playing super-great football*. Now, I just don't know - Brendan Rodgers has got away with so many of these ultra flukey wins over the last couple of seasons, I'm starting to believe he is The Dark One (with his pathetic one arm salute and the Mickeys singing we are Liverpool na na na na NA like they've played some amazing ball as opposed to just lucking out games...the ****s)
*When they are really just lucky!
That's a weight off my chest
Good teams scrape wins when they dont play well SP i wish we had done that rather than the surrender that occured sunday, would you not agree.
Liverpool and Arsenal are finishing way too strong - we're not going to catch either of them
Utd are perhaps more vulnerable with their difficult run of fixtures - but they have a six point cushion on us and I'd be surprised if we were consistent enough from now til the end of the season to catch them
Realistically I think it's going to be a fight between us and the very impressive Southampton for 6th
It doesn't have to be doom and gloom though - we've fighting to get back to where we were having had to rehaul our squad and replace so many expensive flops with youngsters. The positive is these youngsters are doing very well. We do however have to remember that they are kids still and our expectations have to be adjusted accordingly
What we need is a few experienced heads - leaders, winners. Players who can come in and get the best out of our talented kids and help them grow like King did under Naybet
Someone in CB to teach Dier and marshall the back line (get the full backs more organised and avoid all the silly defensive mistakes that constantly cost us) Someone in CM to teach Bentaleb and Mason while taking some of the pressure off them, as well as organising the middle of the park to help us protect the defence and win the battle of the middle against the teams we struggle to do so against
I think realistically this season was going to be transitional - with the likes of Soldado, Paulinho, Lamela and Capoue not giving us what we paid for we had to blood youth and we had to almost rebuild from the bottom. It's surprising to me that we were even in a position to be disappointed at not reaching top four this morning - I think the team and the manager have done very well to be where we are and I think that we can continue to grow next season and with the right transfers in and out we can hit the ground running after a solid preseason together
The race for fourth is beyond us - we need to focus on gelling as a unit and starting to get the performances right so that the results follow. Find a way to get all our best players performing well in a system that complements one another and will take us forward in the long run. I am not even that bothered if we end up 7th and Southampton over take us as long as we do start showing signs of becoming a more cohesive unit and signs that next season we will be able to challenge again
Utd are perhaps more vulnerable with their difficult run of fixtures - but they have a six point cushion on us and I'd be surprised if we were consistent enough from now til the end of the season to catch them
Realistically I think it's going to be a fight between us and the very impressive Southampton for 6th
It doesn't have to be doom and gloom though - we've fighting to get back to where we were having had to rehaul our squad and replace so many expensive flops with youngsters. The positive is these youngsters are doing very well. We do however have to remember that they are kids still and our expectations have to be adjusted accordingly
What we need is a few experienced heads - leaders, winners. Players who can come in and get the best out of our talented kids and help them grow like King did under Naybet
Someone in CB to teach Dier and marshall the back line (get the full backs more organised and avoid all the silly defensive mistakes that constantly cost us) Someone in CM to teach Bentaleb and Mason while taking some of the pressure off them, as well as organising the middle of the park to help us protect the defence and win the battle of the middle against the teams we struggle to do so against
I think realistically this season was going to be transitional - with the likes of Soldado, Paulinho, Lamela and Capoue not giving us what we paid for we had to blood youth and we had to almost rebuild from the bottom. It's surprising to me that we were even in a position to be disappointed at not reaching top four this morning - I think the team and the manager have done very well to be where we are and I think that we can continue to grow next season and with the right transfers in and out we can hit the ground running after a solid preseason together
The race for fourth is beyond us - we need to focus on gelling as a unit and starting to get the performances right so that the results follow. Find a way to get all our best players performing well in a system that complements one another and will take us forward in the long run. I am not even that bothered if we end up 7th and Southampton over take us as long as we do start showing signs of becoming a more cohesive unit and signs that next season we will be able to challenge again
1882andallthat
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I don't think there are many who are claiming that our entire season has been a complete failure, if there are some that are then I agree with you that they are wrong. There have been positives in our development as a team but what people are rightly complaining about is about the clear fact that our defensive unit has been near complete failure all season and only the excellent goalkeeping of Lloris has mitigated the goals conceded column as he is constantly called upon to bail out our defenders incompetent play which is constantly littered with basic errors after errors.
Poch deserves credit for improving some areas of our team but at the same time on our defensive record alone even with the heroics of Lloris we would struggle to get out of the bottom 6, without him constantly bailing us out, without him I'm near on convinced that we would have the worst defensive record in the league bar none, that is what we should rightfully be complaining about and that is what we should no longer keep quiet about, it needs addressing now more than ever, as it is at an unacceptable level. Teams with a fraction of our resources and who appear to have individual defenders who on paper should be inferior as a collective look much more competent as a defensive unit that we do and we should all we asking why that is and to demand some basic improvement.
JonnySpurs
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I personally don't expect us to finish in the top 4 but then I didn't think we'd be anywhere near it this season so that fact that we have been is testament to Poch and his glorious work this season. There is no doubt in my mind that this squad is nowhere near the kind of the squad that he would have assembled had he been able so having done what he has is nothing short of spectacular.
With that said, the OP is great and exactly how I view things. There is plenty of chance for us to win our next 4 games and see the others above us drop points. I'm not overly fussy either way what other teams do, we just need to try and win the games that we should expect to win and let everything else fall where it may.
Whatever happens I've personally never felt as optimistic and happy with our club and our future as I do today and that's what I'll take from this season.
With that said, the OP is great and exactly how I view things. There is plenty of chance for us to win our next 4 games and see the others above us drop points. I'm not overly fussy either way what other teams do, we just need to try and win the games that we should expect to win and let everything else fall where it may.
Whatever happens I've personally never felt as optimistic and happy with our club and our future as I do today and that's what I'll take from this season.
southlondonyiddo
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Yes very disappointing at the weekend. Cannot see us finishing runners up now. We'll just have to be happy with 4th again!
jezz
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For CL not MoPo.
thinktank
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Spurs is as spurs does.Getting your excuses in early TT?
This would bother me actually even if we showed signs that we may be better next season. Southampton are the 11th richest club.Southampton have sold 5 of their best players and bought 11 new players and they have a new manager. If anyone should be claiming transitional season it should be Southampton.
We are the sixth richest club in the premiership
We stole their manager.
We stole their head of recruitment and we still don't manage to finish above them.
I think would be poor, very poor.
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Stealing the head of recruitment is one thing, but seeing as he's barely got his feet under his desk yet he hasn't had the time to have any influence yet, I guess you only included him in your argument for dramatic effect. I hope one day something Spurs related makes you happy. Probably Levy leaving.
In Levy we thrust
spursfan77
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If you'd have told me at the start of the season that we'd still be in with a chance of fourth now I would have taken it. Therefore I can't be disappointed thus far. I just want to see us play well.
Singaspur
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Agree we are now HIGHLY unlikely to get top 4. Suspect that will be clear after the next 4 or 5 games. Hope not but think it will.
That is one aspect of the disappointment of Sunday's defeat. But it was the putrid gutless performance that was really infuriating not being knocked out of the top 4 race. (And btw i would have chosen top 4 over winning the COC.)
I also think looking at our coming games and saying they are poor teams - which they are - and that we could/should win them all - which we definitely could/should - is the WRONG attitude. If we go into each of those games with the same attitude and spirit and work rate that we went into the Arse game with then the results will take care of themselves. We may get unlucky and hit the bar 7 times and get beat by a last-second deflected fluke goal or whatever. But more likely than not, we will win all/most of them.
That's all i want. Not really bothered by the results or getting top 4. Just don't want that shit feeling of getting beat by shit teams because we didn't really TRY.
That is one aspect of the disappointment of Sunday's defeat. But it was the putrid gutless performance that was really infuriating not being knocked out of the top 4 race. (And btw i would have chosen top 4 over winning the COC.)
I also think looking at our coming games and saying they are poor teams - which they are - and that we could/should win them all - which we definitely could/should - is the WRONG attitude. If we go into each of those games with the same attitude and spirit and work rate that we went into the Arse game with then the results will take care of themselves. We may get unlucky and hit the bar 7 times and get beat by a last-second deflected fluke goal or whatever. But more likely than not, we will win all/most of them.
That's all i want. Not really bothered by the results or getting top 4. Just don't want that shit feeling of getting beat by shit teams because we didn't really TRY.
Wheeler Dealer
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I don't think people are saying our season is over because of the defeat at Old Trafford. Most teams will come away from OT with very little this season, but the issue is the manner of the our defeat. The complete abject performance, the total lack of desire, shape, passion and organisation is what we are pissed off with. I doubt very few Spurs fans were expecting such an awful display. and hence the outcry of disappointment and dismay.
