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Tit&Ham

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I'm still confused :p

If the relegated teams are replaced by the newly promoted teams, for the purposes of the comparison, I don't understand how the two totals are different. Where exactly do those three points go missing?

Had we played the exact same games u would be correct, but it's different home/away ties...

Come on - you can do this:)
 

RomanzoCriminale

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the comparison = the exact game from last season, the +4 is what we have yes, but matching the games up to last season (promoted teams replacing relegated) and we have only gained 1pt. had we drew with Chelsea and beat Bournemouth like we did last season we would of had +4, but been 7pts more than after 19 games


Are you on drugs? :confused: Seriously dude this is some cosmic shit you've written.

if you matched the games up from last season for promoted and non promoted, where did the other 3 points come from?

:)
 

Lighty64

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I'm still confused :p

If the relegated teams are replaced by the newly promoted teams, for the purposes of the comparison, I don't understand how the two totals are different. Where exactly do those three points go missing?

ok read every single result from the OP and you will see how it works. you got to remember that some of the fixtures that have been played so far this season where the opposite way round last season. this season for eg. we played Swansea at home 1st, and matched the result points wise, last season in the 1st half we played them away and drew 2-2, the same with Stoke
 

Roynie

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Are you on drugs? :confused: Seriously dude this is some cosmic shit you've written.

if you matched the games up from last season for promoted and non promoted, where did the other 3 points come from?

:)

By "the exact game from last season" he means the chronological order of games, i.e. match 1, match 2 etc. That gives us 4 points more now than after 19 games last season. However, by comparing against the same teams as last season and the same venue, replacing those relegated with those promoted, we have 1 extra point.
 

Neon_Knight_

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ok read every single result from the OP and you will see how it works. you got to remember that some of the fixtures that have been played so far this season where the opposite way round last season. this season for eg. we played Swansea at home 1st, and matched the result points wise, last season in the 1st half we played them away and drew 2-2, the same with Stoke

Thanks! I'm sure I got this straight away last season, so I'm going to blame sleep deprivation ;)
 

Lighty64

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Are you on drugs? :confused: Seriously dude this is some cosmic shit you've written.

if you matched the games up from last season for promoted and non promoted, where did the other 3 points come from?

:)

only ones to ease pain and keep my blood thin, and a few others:(, but even reading that back myself I'm going to have to blame it on tiredness and a stinking cold:whistle:
 

Lighty64

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OP Updated

January 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)

Chelsea (a) D 0-0 - W 2-0 - +3 - (15/16 Everton 1-1 +6)


Total: 42pt
Current projection: 73pts

with these results comes the bonus, posters like @rocklink go into hiding, please let it continue:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Lighty64

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OP updated

January 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)

West Brom (h) - D 1-1 - W 4-0 - +5 - (15/16 Leicester 0-1 +9)

Total: 45pt
Current projection: 75pts

we already have a +29 GD, anyone remember the days we were happy to finish the season with a +GD:ROFLMAO:
 

Neon_Knight_

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I really think we're going to beat the projected 75 points and smash our previous PL points record by about 10 points.
 

SUIYHA

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We'd need a notable drop in form in the second half of the season not to break our record points total now. Obviously we've seen that happen more times than we'd like but I'd be pretty confident of getting at least the required 27 points from the final 17 games to break AVB's record.

The problem is - everyone has picked up their game this year. After 21 games last season Arsenal were top of the league with only 43 points, they're on more than that this year but are only in 4th. Even Man Utd who are in 6th are on 40 points, which would have them finishing on 72 points if averaged over a season - Arsenal came 2nd last year with less than that.

The gulf between the top 6 and the rest is huge this year and there are some fucking dreadful teams at the bottom that everyone is going to clean up against. It would not surprise me if somebody misses out on CL qualification with 80 points this season.
 

tottenmal

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We'd need a notable drop in form in the second half of the season not to break our record points total now. Obviously we've seen that happen more times than we'd like but I'd be pretty confident of getting at least the required 27 points from the final 17 games to break AVB's record.

The problem is - everyone has picked up their game this year. After 21 games last season Arsenal were top of the league with only 43 points, they're on more than that this year but are only in 4th. Even Man Utd who are in 6th are on 40 points, which would have them finishing on 72 points if averaged over a season - Arsenal came 2nd last year with less than that.

The gulf between the top 6 and the rest is huge this year and there are some fucking dreadful teams at the bottom that everyone is going to clean up against. It would not surprise me if somebody misses out on CL qualification with 80 points this season.

I think that's where this season the head to head against teams in the top six is so important. If we get 3 points against city, we will have done well so far. It's going to be tough though, but this team seams to relish in playing against top six sides.
 

Neon_Knight_

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We'd need a notable drop in form in the second half of the season not to break our record points total now. Obviously we've seen that happen more times than we'd like but I'd be pretty confident of getting at least the required 27 points from the final 17 games to break AVB's record.

The problem is - everyone has picked up their game this year. After 21 games last season Arsenal were top of the league with only 43 points, they're on more than that this year but are only in 4th. Even Man Utd who are in 6th are on 40 points, which would have them finishing on 72 points if averaged over a season - Arsenal came 2nd last year with less than that.

The gulf between the top 6 and the rest is huge this year and there are some fucking dreadful teams at the bottom that everyone is going to clean up against. It would not surprise me if somebody misses out on CL qualification with 80 points this season.

Our current points-per-game rate carried on until the end of the season would put us on 81.4 points. Last season our slow start and disappointing finish roughly cancelled each other out, so even if we predict our form tailing off for the last few games, that points-per-game rate could stay about the same :)
 

SUIYHA

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Our current points-per-game rate carried on until the end of the season would put us on 81.4 points. Last season our slow start and disappointing finish roughly cancelled each other out, so even if we predict our form tailing off for the last few games, that points-per-game rate could stay about the same :)

In every season under Poch so far we've had an inconsistent start before hitting form in December which lasts until about March/April when a late crash happens. I know we turned that around in the final two games of the 14/15 season but that seems to be the way things are going again now.

I am still haunted by those final four games of last season and hope he's figured out how to manage the squad a little better as I'm 90% certain that was down to players burning out from the double training sessions, which means it's inevitable to happen again.
 

Shadydan

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In every season under Poch so far we've had an inconsistent start before hitting form in December which lasts until about March/April when a late crash happens. I know we turned that around in the final two games of the 14/15 season but that seems to be the way things are going again now.

I am still haunted by those final four games of last season and hope he's figured out how to manage the squad a little better as I'm 90% certain that was down to players burning out from the double training sessions, which means it's inevitable to happen again.

That was more down to mental fatigue if anything, the pressure got to us and we imploded.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Our current points-per-game rate carried on until the end of the season would put us on 81.4 points. Last season our slow start and disappointing finish roughly cancelled each other out, so even if we predict our form tailing off for the last few games, that points-per-game rate could stay about the same :)
:confused:
 

Roynie

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Our current points-per-game rate carried on until the end of the season would put us on 81.4 points. Last season our slow start and disappointing finish roughly cancelled each other out, so even if we predict our form tailing off for the last few games, that points-per-game rate could stay about the same :)

Errr, que? Could you explain your thinking on that, you've confused the fuck out of me!
 

the shelf

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OP updated

January 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)

West Brom (h) - D 1-1 - W 4-0 - +5 - (15/16 Leicester 0-1 +9)

Total: 45pt
Current projection: 75pts

we already have a +29 GD, anyone remember the days we were happy to finish the season with a +GD:ROFLMAO:

I remember the days when we would win 3 away games a season, usually vs Man City, Everton and some random relegation fodder side!
 

Neon_Knight_

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Errr, que? Could you explain your thinking on that, you've confused the fuck out of me!
We dropped lots of points at the start and end of the season, with fairly consistent form between. Therefore, if you take the points-per-game ratio from the first half of the season, it will be similar for the second half.

With a similar pattern of form this season, we are set 81.4 points. That's assuming that we do tail off at the end!
 
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Roynie

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We dropped lots of points at the start and end of the season, with fairly consistent form between. Therefore, if you take the points-per-game ratio from the first half of the season, it will be similar for the second half.

With a similar pattern of form this season, we are set 81.4 points. That's assuming that we do tail off at the end!
We dropped lots of points at the start and end of the season, with fairly consistent form between. Therefore, if you take the points-per-game ratio from the first half of the season, it will be similar for the second half.

With a similar pattern of form this season, we are set 81.4 points. That's assuming that we do tail off at the end!

Ah, now I see what you're getting at. The dropped points at the start and end of the season virtually replicated themselves, not "cancelled each other out". That's the bit I was confused by. Apart from that I agree, if we could keep up the better form all season we would have a great chance of the title, but that's the Holy Grail really, isn't it!
 
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