VDV says Bale wasnt worth the money

[McFlash]

You don't refer to a former boss as 'what's his name'. It doesn't matter who was right or who was wrong, it's just a ****ish thing to do.

Some people just don't deserve respect. You try, at the start, then realise that your attempts are futile and that they are indeed, just ****s.

Maybe "what's his face" was wrong (although funny).
I wouldn't refer to my old bosses like that as some were decent, then there was Geoff the **** and Rob the utter ****. They had names.

 

[spursfan77]

If we had Bale in our team at the moment then we would very possibly win the league.

At the time we sold him he was one of the most effective players in world football.

He has the perfect image for marketing.

To us, he was worth that money. His value to Madrid will always be lower than to us, he was never going to be their talisman on and off the field with Ronaldo there-whatever Perez said.

Spot on dude

 

[guiltyparty]

He doesn't really say that he wasn't worth the money tho. Just that he's not in Ronaldo or Messi's class. Which he isn't

 

[dontcallme]

Was Bale good enough to warrant a world record fee? No, he wasn't.

But teams like Real Madrid don't worry about value for money. They are looking for top players who help them win trophies.

In a few seasons he has helped them win the CL, Copa Del Rey, Club World Cup and the Super Cup. I don't watch much foriegn football but from what I've read Bale is still a starting player.

Considering the cost and performance from Emerson, Walter Samuel, Gravesen, Drenthe, Kaka etc I doubt they are too concenred about overpaying for a player doing a decent job.

 

[tttcowan]

It's a compensation payment is what people forget. So really it's all about how much he was worth to us. Was he worth that much to us? Yes I think so, god knows where we'd be if we still had him, a couple of campaigns in the CL would of more than covered the price paid. Lets not forget how we blew the money as well. In hindsight he's actually worth more than that figure to us.

Was he worth that to Madrid? Well he did scored the goal to put them in front in extra time in the CL final. So yeah, with hindsight, he has to be, that's the reason he was bought. Certainly if you asked any of the people involved at Madrid. "You can go through that campaign again with the extra money in your pocket and no Bale and see how it plays out, you might not win the CL." They'd say no do one.

 

[Lamelad]

He has 41 goals for them and in his third season now. They expect that over a season.

 

[yankspurs]

Au contraire, LVdB, Au contraire ... Rafa was dead right, AVB fucked up there

Not about leaving -it would have been better for us & probably for him if he'd stayed as it turns out - but it was a ridiculous way to treat & speak to a player of Vdv's stature & we went on & seriously missed him that campaign

Sorry, but this is just total crap. A new manager shouldnt hand someone a first team place immediately. You make them prove to you that they deserve that place in training. And you make them prove it to you every single day in training. Maybe instead of throwing his toys in the pram because he wanted to be coddled, he could have put his head down and worked and proved that he belonged? Like what Michael Dawson did. I love VDV, but on the AVB situation he is 100% in the wrong.

Also, not comparing the quality of the players or the man, but do you remember what it was like at the beginning of last season when Poch handed Ade the #1 job immediately upon his return to training? It was utter torture watching Ade until he was finally dropped. He looked like he legitimately couldnt give a fuck out there and was lazy as shit. When you hand someone the starting place in the team without making him work for it, he could get very complacent. You always want your players to work for their place and to prove they should remain in the team.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

The price is irrelevant. Supply and demand rules same as many other football and non football situations.

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

You don't refer to a former boss as 'what's his name'. It doesn't matter who was right or who was wrong, it's just a ****ish thing to do.

There's that trope about respect being something that's earned, and AVB hadn't done that, neither at Spurs nor his previous job. Having a 'Manager' label on your forehead doesn't make you a god. AVB was an utter failure in everything he tried with us. A dark period.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Sorry, but this is just total crap. A new manager shouldnt hand someone a first team place immediately. You make them prove to you that they deserve that place in training. And you make them prove it to you every single day in training. Maybe instead of throwing his toys in the pram because he wanted to be coddled, he could have put his head down and worked and proved that he belonged? Like what Michael Dawson did. I love VDV, but on the AVB situation he is 100% in the wrong.

Also, not comparing the quality of the players or the man, but do you remember what it was like at the beginning of last season when Poch handed Ade the #1 job immediately upon his return to training? It was utter torture watching Ade until he was finally dropped. He looked like he legitimately couldnt give a fuck out there and was lazy as shit. When you hand someone the starting place in the team without making him work for it, he could get very complacent. You always want your players to work for their place and to prove they should remain in the team.

No i disagree in this case. Broadly i might agree, if we were talking about just-any-player, but this was Vdv, a talisman and someone who had no need to 'prove himself' to a mug like AVB or anyone else for htat matter. He had already been there, had proved himself time and again, i may be looking at things with rose tinted glasses, but i don't recall EVER thinking that Vdv gave anyting less than 100%

Even if AVB did have concerns over Vdv's stamina and endurance you don't go to a player like him and talk to him like that, manager or not. Respect is earned and all that. Vdv had earned the respect of Spurs management and Fans. AVB had not, and never did.

And please don't even try comparing Rafael Van der Vaart to bloody Adebayor, please!!!

 

[Shadydan]

I better manager would be more tactful in that situation.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

you need to earn respect 1st

Club manager should get instant respect, but AVB has shown himself to be an appalling man manager in many respects both at Chelsea and Spurs. He has no tact with experienced pros whom he doesn't envisage playing a key role. VdV being one, Lampard another.

 

[dontcallme]

Sorry, but this is just total crap. A new manager shouldnt hand someone a first team place immediately. You make them prove to you that they deserve that place in training. And you make them prove it to you every single day in training. Maybe instead of throwing his toys in the pram because he wanted to be coddled, he could have put his head down and worked and proved that he belonged? Like what Michael Dawson did. I love VDV, but on the AVB situation he is 100% in the wrong.

Also, not comparing the quality of the players or the man, but do you remember what it was like at the beginning of last season when Poch handed Ade the #1 job immediately upon his return to training? It was utter torture watching Ade until he was finally dropped. He looked like he legitimately couldnt give a fuck out there and was lazy as shit. When you hand someone the starting place in the team without making him work for it, he could get very complacent. You always want your players to work for their place and to prove they should remain in the team.

If players were only judged on their performances in training then players like Steve Mcmanaman would never have got to play.

It's more important how you perform at match day and VDV was an experienced enough player that managers would know what he is capable of.

 

[tototoner]

I have worked for plenty of managers who I have no respect for because basically they haven't a clue what they are doing.

 

[newbie]

Doesn't come across at all well there Rafa.

'When what's his name [Andre Villas-Boas] came he said to me 'you're not my number one' and I had played two years, like, unbelievable, so for me it was really strange that he said that to me. So then I said, well, it's better to leave and that is what happened.'

Seems a bit arrogant and shows unnecessary disrespect towards AVB.

Why would you say that to one our best players? Surly shows AVB was wrong for the job.

 

[eViL]

Why would you say that to one our best players? Surly shows AVB was wrong for the job.

If I was manager; I'd come into the club, give everyone a fresh opportunity and tell everyone it's up to them to make themselves indispensible. Which exactly what AVB did.

If I was a player; I'd get fitter than ever and make myself indespensible. Which is exactly what Rafa didn't do.

No-one should be a starter on merit. NO-ONE.

 

[Misfit]

Au contraire, LVdB, Au contraire ... Rafa was dead right, AVB fucked up there

Not about leaving -it would have been better for us & probably for him if he'd stayed as it turns out - but it was a ridiculous way to treat & speak to a player of Vdv's stature & we went on & seriously missed him that campaign

Yep. Honestly, no idea why I didn't loathe AVB ever since but that really made me stop cold when AVB first arrived. It was clearly a way of stamping his authority, and my dear beloved Rafa was not an AVB type player, but the way it was done was so ham-fisted looking back.

No idea what Poch does differently but it's something and that difference is hugely important.

 

[lukespurs7]

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of AVB's decision, he was the manager and it was his to make. VDV not even referring to him by name is massively unprofessional and smacks of a bruised ego...which is pretty much a given for a Dutch international.

I love Rafa, AVB was wrong, what a dick.

 

[Misfit]

What a great night and a couple of days after though, when we signed Rafa. Football chubby.

That skilful, never flustered, worked his nuts off, player was made for this club and it is so very rare that a player one personally covets for so long actually joins your club.

Not bad for a fat slug.

 

[newbie]

If I was manager; I'd come into the club, give everyone a fresh opportunity and tell everyone it's up to them to make themselves indispensible. Which exactly what AVB did.

If I was a player; I'd get fitter than ever and make myself indespensible. Which is exactly what Rafa didn't do.

No-one should be a starter on merit. NO-ONE.

But you don't come in insult one of our best players and push him out on your first day, maybe say hi Rafa I think your awesome please help me set the tone for what I want to do.... Or some bullshit.