VDV says Bale wasnt worth the money

[Kiedis]

VdV could have done what Dawson did when he was told he was behind Kaboul, Gallas, Caulker and Vertonghen. Forced himself into the team by performing in training and in cameos. Rafa showed again that he's not up for that sort fight, so he left. Just like he did in Madrid.

He was a very good player for us, but it looks like he needs to be guaranteed to be the big fish. Nothing wrong about that, but cheap shots at a former boss is just immature.

 

[Sir Henry]

Doesn't come across at all well there Rafa.

'When what's his name [Andre Villas-Boas] came he said to me 'you're not my number one' and I had played two years, like, unbelievable, so for me it was really strange that he said that to me. So then I said, well, it's better to leave and that is what happened.'

Seems a bit arrogant and shows unnecessary disrespect towards AVB.

What was AVB showing when he said that to Rafa ? It's always the person that reacts to it that's at fault, never the instigator. I applaud Rafa.

 

[dudu]

Actually there is an interesting discussion here regarding Bale, VdV and our current crop.
- Would having Bale make us Title contenders?
- Would we fall into habits of allowing Bale to do everything?
- Is it a good thing that we no longer have VdV type players in our squad?

Now, I ask these questions as someone who idolised both players, but I look back now and see a real imbalance in our team vs what we have now. Its different rather than one being massively better than the other, but back then we had a couple of World Class players, where as now I would say we have none (Lloris maybe an exception) and instead have a team.

We relied so heavily on Bale to get us out of jail, we had player like Vdv who were fired up, pompous, brilliant, but equally prone to going missing or not being fit enough.

AvB came in and tried to do what he was trying at Chelsea, clear the slate of egos and work towards a team ethic, but his methods were again misplaced. But was it so different in what is happening now? Was AvB used as the catalyst, but needed to be a bit of a scapegoat in order to ruffle feathers to the point where egos left? As a result I feel Poch has come in at the right time, similar in AvB in his team ethic approach and not interested in egos, though different in his methods on how to achieve it (and has switched us from possession to more direct style).

Back to Bale and 100m from Man United, IF that were to happen, then wow. It would just show how far apart the clubs are financially and how important it is to get the new stadium. Not that I condone 100m on any 1 player, but the power to even consider it...!

I do miss both players, but I don't miss the Spurs we were back then as much. I like what we are becoming. This is a team that is not just about graft, but who bleed for the team if necessary, who all bust a gut every match but are also technical and have the ability to entertain. I am beginning to identify with this team almost more than any other in the time I have been a fan and IF that continues, that will be some achievement.

Problem with AVB is he forgot to remove his own ego

 

[tooey]

Real will easily make that money back on him through sell on and merch fees (they may have already done so), and he was arguably priceless to us given his influence so I can't see how he was overpriced. He's also far classier than anything Real have, which is surely worthy of a premium...

No chance will they ever make their money back, don't forget that the guy is on 200k a week!!!! He wouldn't sell for the value he was brought for either. My guess is that if a PSG, Man city or the like were to try and get him a reasonable value would be around the 60m mark. That's a big loss if you also take into account his 12m a year contract. We did the right thing and sold him at his peak value, what we did with that money afterwards is a different argument entirely.

 

[walton]

No chance will they ever make their money back, don't forget that the guy is on 200k a week!!!! He wouldn't sell for the value he was brought for either. My guess is that if a PSG, Man city or the like were to try and get him a reasonable value would be around the 60m mark. That's a big loss if you also take into account his 12m a year contract. We did the right thing and sold him at his peak value, what we did with that money afterwards is a different argument entirely.

That's a fair point...I hadn't considered his wages.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I hope bale fucks it right up at Madrid.




Then we can buy him back at half the price

 

[Bus-Conductor]

If we had Bale in our team at the moment then we would very possibly win the league.

At the time we sold him he was one of the most effective players in world football.

He has the perfect image for marketing.

To us, he was worth that money. His value to Madrid will always be lower than to us, he was never going to be their talisman on and off the field with Ronaldo there-whatever Perez said.

You think he'd enjoy Pochettino's work without the ball ethos ?

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

You think he'd enjoy Pochettino's work without the ball ethos ?

Poch seems to have a way of instilling his philosophy in to players, Bale- pre Madrid- was a down to earth kid. There is every chance that he could have done...and it's certainly a hypothetical challenge I would have liked to have seen...

On the other hand, no- probably not.

 

[walton]

You think he'd enjoy Pochettino's work without the ball ethos ?

...there's nothing to suggest otherwise. He's clearly a hard-working player with a sensible head on him (in relative terms). Having said that, I'd be happy for some leeway given it's Bale and he could operate at 75% and still improve us significantly.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

...there's nothing to suggest otherwise. He's clearly a hard-working player with a sensible head on him (in relative terms). Having said that, I'd be happy for some leeway given it's Bale and he could operate at 75% and still improve us significantly.

He was a lazy bottler without the ball for most of his time with us. It was just about acceptable in the one season he truly excelled under AVB, the the previous seasons he was good, but not "Ronaldo" good enough to be as lazy and reticent to run back and help his FB as he was. Even Ekotto moaned about playing behind him.

I even find Ronaldo's flouncy bollocks annoying, and he's one of the most productive players this planet's ever seen.

 

[thfc1973]

In his first season he singlehandedly won them the Spanish cup and also was the person to score the winning goal to win them the Champions League too... that's about 75M euros worth right there you could argue. Not a bad return on your 100M euros for your 1st season..

 

[RichieS]

No chance will they ever make their money back, don't forget that the guy is on 200k a week!!!! He wouldn't sell for the value he was brought for either. My guess is that if a PSG, Man city or the like were to try and get him a reasonable value would be around the 60m mark. That's a big loss if you also take into account his 12m a year contract. We did the right thing and sold him at his peak value, what we did with that money afterwards is a different argument entirely.

That's a fair point...I hadn't considered his wages.

300k...

 

[Samson]

I think part of the problem is he set himself up to play like Ronaldo, only to go the same club as Ronaldo, meaning he's not playing first banana. If he'd gone to Man Utd or stayed with us, he'd be the star and the spearhead.

 

[Database]

http://whatbaleearns.co.uk/

Bale has earned: £38,724,346.43 since joining Real Madrid.

 

[E17yid]

His statement implies that everyone that plays for RM is at Messi's or Ronaldo's level, which they aren't, obviously.

Unless he's saying he was surprised he went for the amount he did not to RM itself?

I think he was worth that and then some.

 

[tototoner]

A bit of van der Vaart died when he left Tottenham

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Madrid massively overpaid, they wanted to parade a marque signing for their fans, rather than investing in players they really needed to improve the team and squad.

Bale and James in for Ozil and Di Maria, at roughly a £50m loss. How was that bad business?

 

[carpediem991]

They overpaid for Bale so did we for Soldado, Chiriches, Paulinho, Capoue and probably Lamela.

 

[slartibartfast]

If they hold onto him and are patient it'll be worth it.
He's never going to shine when he's being told YOU MUST GIVE THE BALL TO RONALDO every time you get it and no you cant take a freekick.
Ronaldo has to go before anyone else will get a look in.
Unlike Messi he aint a team player imo.

 

[riggi]

Rafa still has a grudge on him for stealing that goal from him against Blackburn in a 4-2 win.

I honestly don't know how some of you can remember shit like this..