The myth of the 60.000 seater

[camaj]

First of all, three decimal places, love the specificity.

Yes, we need 60,000. Will we fill 60,000 week in week out straight away? No, but we will get 60k for some games and over time we'll grow into it. Using the same logic we would have settled for a 40k stadium in the mid-90's and we'd be stuck now. Better to build more than we need than not enough and being stuck with it for 100 years

 

[leffe186]

I would rather dispense with the "I want to be 'entertained' at a match" type, keep The Lane as it is and have noisy, raucous beer fueled fans filling the stadium.

Then you will have to accept that we will never even fill our 36K stadium. You will lose a healthy wedge of income from commercial and match day revenue, and will not see ticket prices ever come down. You will therefore probably lose the opportunity to attract a new generation of fans.

Look, I would love to see the entire crowd being noisy and raucous, but that just isn't going to happen under current conditions, and we need to encourage every single person we can to be a Spurs fan. What we mustn't do is sit back and let the atmosphere die. It should be possible - particularly with a new 56K stadium and a Kop end - to do both. That is what we must aim for I nthe new stadium, an opportunity for every single type of Spurs fan to see games (particularly younger fans) while creating the kind of atmosphere that is lacking at the Emirates.

 

[Lufti]

Then you will have to accept that we will never even fill our 36K stadium. You will lose a healthy wedge of income from commercial and match day revenue, and will not see ticket prices ever come down. You will therefore probably lose the opportunity to attract a new generation of fans.

Look, I would love to see the entire crowd being noisy and raucous, but that just isn't going to happen under current conditions, and we need to encourage every single person we can to be a Spurs fan. What we mustn't do is sit back and let the atmosphere die. It should be possible - particularly with a new 56K stadium and a Kop end - to do both. That is what we must aim for I nthe new stadium, an opportunity for every single type of Spurs fan to see games (particularly younger fans) while creating the kind of atmosphere that is lacking at the Emirates.

Agreed, although surely if we weren't filling the stadium the prices would come down

 

[leffe186]

Agreed, although surely if we weren't filling the stadium the prices would come down

only if we decided to give up on competitive wages.

 

[Lufti]

only if we decided to give up on competitive wages.

Don't even say it, Levy could be lurking

 

[vegassd]

I don't think that prices will ever be dependent solely on the capacity of the ground. There will surely be a bunch of algorithms used to model the price sensitivity of the different category games, and then whichever model yields the greatest revenue will be the one used. That's what I would guess anyway.

Hasn't Levy always said that playing squad costs would be ring-fenced and that the money for the NDP would come from other business. That's part of the reason why it's taking so long to come to fruition.

 

[Lufti]

I don't think that prices will ever be dependent solely on the capacity of the ground. There will surely be a bunch of algorithms used to model the price sensitivity of the different category games, and then whichever model yields the greatest revenue will be the one used. That's what I would guess anyway.

Hasn't Levy always said that playing squad costs would be ring-fenced and that the money for the NDP would come from other business. That's part of the reason why it's taking so long to come to fruition.

Of course it depends on a number of factors but still. Lower league teams, ie championship teams who fill their stadiums week in week out charge a lot, whereas Wigan who struggle to fill their stadium seemingly every game despite the fact they've been in the premiership for a number of years now have relatively cheap tickets (compared to other English sides).

Like you say though, categorising matches is important as naturally there will be more demand for some games than others..

 

[Bobbins]

One pic of during the game... other looks like before or at HT.

Do that at any ground and it will look the same.

Wtf has that got to do with anything? Yes one pic is before the villa game and the others during west ham, so? They're from my Facebook page, why the hell am I having to prove anything to you?

All I was proving is that I was there (since I was accused of not going to games), not trying to day there were empty seats?

 

[HotspurFC1950]

If we build it, they will come

This and 60k please not 56k.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

First of all, three decimal places, love the specificity.

Yes, we need 60,000. Will we fill 60,000 week in week out straight away? No, but we will get 60k for some games and over time we'll grow into it. Using the same logic we would have settled for a 40k stadium in the mid-90's and we'd be stuck now. Better to build more than we need than not enough and being stuck with it for 100 years

Correct.

 

[camaj]

Of course it depends on a number of factors but still. Lower league teams, ie championship teams who fill their stadiums week in week out charge a lot, whereas Wigan who struggle to fill their stadium seemingly every game despite the fact they've been in the premiership for a number of years now have relatively cheap tickets (compared to other English sides).

It comes down to supply and demand. The earlier example about Arsenal having expensive tickets is a bit misleading. They don't have expensive tickets to pay for the stadium they have expensive tickets because fans are willing to pay. If they only got 40k fans a game they'd lower prices

From a fans point of view, having more seats is a win-win. Not only are there more tickets available but it means ticket prices can be kept down because there will be more than enough tickets at times.

 

[shelfmonkey]

Then you will have to accept that we will never even fill our 36K stadium. You will lose a healthy wedge of income from commercial and match day revenue, and will not see ticket prices ever come down. You will therefore probably lose the opportunity to attract a new generation of fans.

Look, I would love to see the entire crowd being noisy and raucous, but that just isn't going to happen under current conditions, and we need to encourage every single person we can to be a Spurs fan. What we mustn't do is sit back and let the atmosphere die. It should be possible - particularly with a new 56K stadium and a Kop end - to do both. That is what we must aim for I nthe new stadium, an opportunity for every single type of Spurs fan to see games (particularly younger fans) while creating the kind of atmosphere that is lacking at the Emirates.

The trouble is ticket prices for the new stadium will, I reckon, be on par or at least not much below the cost of going to the turd bowl, remember our chairman is levy not lenin!!

 

[tippspur59]

I thought the support was very good for today's game.

 

[spud]

I thought the support was very good for today's game.

On my TV it sounded like a fucking morgue. Probably because we weren't winning 6-0 and 'entertaining' enough.

 

[Deleted member 22380]

If we are building a new stadium or extending White Hart Lane, I would think ticket prices actually go up.

Someone has to pay for the new facilities, I would think a price hike would be expected. I certainly do no think they would actually go down.