Should we have re-signed Berbatov?

[JimmyG2]

Absolutely top class player who would have almost certainly had us challenging for the league.
But, and there's always a but; he forgot the adage
that you should be nice to those that you meet on the way up
because you don't know who you might meet on the way down.
Screwed us over when it suited him and having been kicked out of bed
I'm not interested in climbing back in.
Looking forward to seeing the back of our current pair of hookers and forging
a beautiful relationship with someone who loves us for ourselves
a classy, gorgeous, loyal and true stunner, who loves children, animals
and not merely as a temporary meal ticket.
Where's this going Jimmy?
Anyway that's a no.
Sorry Berba it was good while it lasted but never go back in either direction.
(What?)

Lentils are good for you and cooked properly don't need to be 'munched'.

 

[UncleBuck]

Bottom line is did DL want him and if so would berba have wanted to come back after everything that was said previously?
We'll never know which is probably a good job!

 

[Misfit]

From Berbs side his story is very much like Modric

He says that Levy agreed to sell him on to a top club if the offer was right and that Levy then didn't keep his promise. This caused the sulking.

That something I picked up from people at the club just after he left.

Indeed. Which he did. What Berbatov and Modric wanted us to do was just bend over and pry open our cheeks though. They both got their moves and we got fair money. So they can still stick their pouty bottom lips right up their fundaments.

Fucking children they were.

Would still love both to be here but ah well.

 

[double0]

No we should not buy Berbatov it would be a backward step.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

I'd love to have both back, but meh - don't diss the Spurs lads.

Ghaly lost teeth for us, then threw the shirt on the ground and everyone went freaking nuts.

gotta respect the club, or get lost!

 

[Misfit]

I'd love to have both back, but meh - don't diss the Spurs lads.

Ghaly lost teeth for us, then threw the shirt on the ground and everyone went freaking nuts.

gotta respect the club, or get lost!

Ghaly was fine. Just treated the section of fans who were fucking disgraceful that night and showing immense amounts of respect to THFC by abusing a THFC player who, although having a fucking mare, was trying his tits off the way they deserved.

Fair point though. If Ghaly got that treatment and was swiftly exiled completely, Berbs and Gail have no chance. Well they do because they're both stupidly talented but whatever, we're football fans. It's our inalienable right to be rank hypocrites.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Ghaly was fine. Just treated the section of fans who were fucking disgraceful that night and showing immense amounts of respect to THFC by abusing a THFC player who, although having a fucking mare, was trying his tits off the way they deserved.

Fair point though. If Ghaly got that treatment and was swiftly exiled completely, Berbs and Gail have no chance. Well they do because they're both stupidly talented but whatever, we're football fans. It's our inalienable right to be rank hypocrites.

 

[stemark44]

Would love to see both of them back but there is no chance they would want to play for us again.

 

[Legacy]

No we should not buy Berbatov it would be a backward step.

A backwards step from Defoe and Adebayor?

Berbatov - 13 goals. 8 of those were the first goal of the game.
Defoe and Adebayor - 12 goals. 4 of those were the first goal of the game.

"Backwards step" Berbatov has a better return than both of our strikers combined, as well as scoring double the amount of important first goals. Also strengthens the belief that Defoe rarely scores important goals, normally getting the second or third.

 

[Jenko]

He scored today, ergo yes.

If he hadn't scored then no.

Seriously though he messed us about at a critical time which was practically unforgivable, therefore it needed lots of time to even begin to heal the wounds. However I think it's got to the stage where many would have accepted him* including myself. But alas it wasn't to be (at the time I thought we would have been ok without him). However looking back obviously we should have done that little bit more to get him, but how was anyone to know that both Ade and Defoe would be on this form? There was no way (and rightly so) DL would have entertained having three strikers in their later years when there was realistically only one place on offer.



*I think he understands this as when he scored against us it was the first time in my memory that he refused to celebrate - bit late though

By not signing Ade? He would have saved a fortune and gotten a better player and still only have two aging players on the books, not three. Ade had 'crap player to sign on a permanent contract' all over him, and his months of money grabbing at the expense of a pre season advertised it out loud, but did we heed it? Fuck no! The board got what they deserved and we're all paying the price unfortunately.

 

[E17yid]

Not that bothered TBH. I'm not sure why people assume he would score us loads of goals? Whats that based on? The fact he scores goals for fulham now? I'm not saying he would have been a failure if he came back but I think part of the reason behind his recent sucess is because he likes to be the "main man" much like Ade was last year, and now isnt.

There are many variables to consider, some of them impossiblie to predict (injuries, internal squabbles, team morale) that can effect a players performance so I don't think it is as easy as saying, he scores for Fulham, I'm soo gutted Levy didnt sign him.

As someone else has already commented, Ade scored us 18 goals last year and we got him for £7mil. I think it was a good buy, at the time. Berba can jog on IMO, I'm very happy with where we are

 

[Jenko]

Yes fo' sho. Would have been a great option to have up front. Iirc though, the majority on here didn't want him coz of his previous.

I don't recall that but I do recall thinking we it was a total no brainer. I wanted him in and I didn't want Ade. I shoulda been manager then (although I was delighted when Dempsey signed ).

 

[chris scottspur]

We got 30million for him so great business and to buy him for 5million 3 seasons later is a no-brainer he still has the touch of class and would have got us 15-20 goals this season....wouldnt have happened as levy to stubborn

 

[Jenko]

cmon he's 32yo ...

Drogba was much older when he won Chelsea the CL last season.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

cmon he's 32yo ...

class defies age

 

[E17yid]

Not that bothered TBH. I'm not sure why people assume he would score us loads of goals? Whats that based on? The fact he scores goals for fulham now? I'm not saying he would have been a failure if he came back but I think part of the reason behind his recent sucess is because he likes to be the "main man" much like Ade was last year, and now isnt.

There are many variables to consider, some of them impossiblie to predict (injuries, internal squabbles, team morale) that can effect a players performance so I don't think it is as easy as saying, he scores for Fulham, I'm soo gutted Levy didnt sign him.

As someone else has already commented, Ade scored us 18 goals last year and we got him for £7mil. I think it was a good buy, at the time. Berba can jog on IMO, I'm very happy with where we are

Drogba was much older when he won Chelsea the CL last season.

How do you even know AVB wanted him? Or would you make VB buy him? We all now Berba would not fit in with the way VB approaches the game

 

[AngerManagement]

Not that bothered TBH. I'm not sure why people assume he would score us loads of goals? Whats that based on? The fact he scores goals for fulham now? I'm not saying he would have been a failure if he came back but I think part of the reason behind his recent sucess is because he likes to be the "main man" much like Ade was last year, and now isnt.

There are many variables to consider, some of them impossiblie to predict (injuries, internal squabbles, team morale) that can effect a players performance so I don't think it is as easy as saying, he scores for Fulham, I'm soo gutted Levy didnt sign him.

As someone else has already commented, Ade scored us 18 goals last year and we got him for £7mil. I think it was a good buy, at the time. Berba can jog on IMO, I'm very happy with where we are

Based on the fact he scored well for Fulham now, a weaker less creative team than us.....it stands to reason he would have scored more for us

Based on the fact he scored loads for us before

Based on the fact he scored loads for Man U

Based on the fact he's a great player and better than any other striker we have at our disposal

BAsed on the simple fact that he would have been a better signing than Clint Dempsey I can say yes I am gutted we didn't sign him because at the time he was on the market and Sir Alex was saying on SSN that he might even go back to Spurs....we instead were tying up a deal for clint fucking dempsey

Ade scored us 18 goals last yea yes, but then had you spoken to any gooner they would have told you he will start off great and soon become total shite when he loses interest in playing for you, in fact you didn't need to take a gooners word for it you could have just watched him play for Arsenal, or Man City but that's not really the point because buying Ade wasn't mutually exclusive to signing Berbatov hence why we were still supposedly chasing Leandro and still signed Dempsey (I would have happily let Fulham keep Dempsey while we signed Berba)

Personally I think we didn't sign Berbatov because Levy was stubborn due to the way he left the club and cut his nose off to spite his face so to speak, if this is the case all I can say is if we miss out on CL football that decision will be directly responcible because with Berba up front in this team we would have walked it by now

I hope I am wrong and Levy did not cut his nose of to spite his face out of stubborn arrogance because if he did it only further suggests footballing decisions are not his thing and something needs to change in regards to our transfer process

 

[E17yid]

Based on the fact he scored well for Fulham now, a weaker less creative team than us.....it stands to reason he would have scored more for us

Based on the fact he scored loads for us before

Based on the fact he scored loads for Man U

Based on the fact he's a great player and better than any other striker we have at our disposal

BAsed on the simple fact that he would have been a better signing than Clint Dempsey I can say yes I am gutted we didn't sign him because at the time he was on the market and Sir Alex was saying on SSN that he might even go back to Spurs....we instead were tying up a deal for clint fucking dempsey

Ade scored us 18 goals last yea yes, but then had you spoken to any gooner they would have told you he will start off great and soon become total shite when he loses interest in playing for you, in fact you didn't need to take a gooners word for it you could have just watched him play for Arsenal, or Man City but that's not really the point because buying Ade wasn't mutually exclusive to signing Berbatov hence why we were still supposedly chasing Leandro and still signed Dempsey (I would have happily let Fulham keep Dempsey while we signed Berba)

Personally I think we didn't sign Berbatov because Levy was stubborn due to the way he left the club and cut his nose off to spite his face so to speak, if this is the case all I can say is if we miss out on CL football that decision will be directly responcible because with Berba up front in this team we would have walked it by now

I hope I am wrong and Levy did not cut his nose of to spite his face out of stubborn arrogance because if he did it only further suggests footballing decisions are not his thing and something needs to change in regards to our transfer process[/quote

So you think AVB was banging down the door asking Levy to sign Berab? I dont think so. As I say, he banged in goals for us at a different time and place to where we are now. I'm not 100% sure he would of done as well for us a people are saying that's all. Also, As much abuse as Demspey gets he's got us some important goals this year and has a much better work ethic and is far more versatile, in keeping with Andre's MO. This is the most important thing for me, Whatever AVB wants but I guess we will never really know whether Berba was a target or not. I think we can both agree he was not a target of Levy's

 

[AngerManagement]

So you think AVB was banging down the door asking Levy to sign Berab? I dont think so. As I say, he banged in goals for us at a different time and place to where we are now. I'm not 100% sure he would of done as well for us a people are saying that's all. Also, As much abuse as Demspey gets he's got us some important goals this year and has a much better work ethic and is far more versatile, in keeping with Andre's MO. This is the most important thing for me, Whatever AVB wants but I guess we will never really know whether Berba was a target or not. I think we can both agree he was not a target of Levy's

No I don't think AVB was banging down any doors to sign Berba, but then equally I don't think he was doing so to sign Dempsey either

You may not be 100% sure that Berbatov would have banged in the goals for us now, but I am certain he would have done so, more than Ade, Defoe or Dempsey and more importantly his football brain, hold up play and ability to link would have made us a better attacking force I have no doubt

I think it is pretty undeniable that Berbatov would have been a better signing for us than Dempsey was, work rate doesn't match class and while Dempsey has maybe got some undeserved stick he also has been generally poor and I find it hard to imagine anyone thinking we wouldn't have been better off had we resigned Berbatove

Yes I also doubt Berba was a target for AVB but I doubt Dempsey was also

As for Levy, yes I agree he probably didn't want him but like I said to me that smacks of cutting our nose off to spite our face like when Sugar went on his anti Carlos kicaball rant post Klinsmann and set us back years while teams like Arsenal built a small dynasty with players like Bergkamp, Overmars, henry, Pires and Vieira and we wasted small fortunes on Fox, Armstrong, Sinton and Ferdinand

Put the good of the club first, signing Berba back instead of Dempsey would have been better for the club and if Levy dismissed it due to personal issues with the way Berba left the club I feel that was a mistake (of course this is hypothetical as I don't know for sure what Levy's position was)

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Best striker in the league, I was desperate for us to get him in the summer, I'd have piggy backed him down from mamchester on roller blades! Instead we gave Fulham the money to sign him by buying Dempsey.

Oh, and for a player who is apperently too lazy for avbs system, it's funny how Berba has more touches per game and better pass completion than most midfielders.