Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

[Gb160]

Yeah I agree completely writing players off with sweeping statements leaves you open to looking foolish. I just think the term ‘morons’ is a bit harsh.

Prattish.
How about Prattish?

 

[dagraham]

Prattish.
How about Prattish?

Yeah, it’s just semantics I know.

Anyway, who’s the next scapegoat going to be I wonder after Tuesday if it goes badly?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Yeah I agree completely writing players off with sweeping statements leaves you open to looking foolish. I just think the term ‘morons’ is a bit harsh.

Why can't people get their point across without resorting to insults at all?

Why can't players just be poor, have a bad game, or simply not be good enough at that moment in time?

Is there not enough hatred, ugliness & animosity in the world outside of football & this site?

 

[SteveH]

Prattish.
How about Prattish?

I think the government has added something to the drinking water in the last few years.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Yeah, it’s just semantics I know.

Anyway, who’s the next scapegoat going to be I wonder after Tuesday if it goes badly?

Trippier, Dier, Sanchez, Lloris, Rose, Llorente.

 

[dagraham]

Trippier, Dier, Sanchez, Lloris, Rose, Llorente.

It’s like scapegoat bingo.

 

[Gb160]

Trippier, Dier, Sanchez, Lloris, Rose, Llorente.

Poch...you forgot "THIS ONES ON POCH GRRRRR!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It’s like scapegoat bingo.

Pretty sad really.

Poch...you forgot "THIS ONES ON POCH GRRRRR!

To be fair, I'm never right anyway.

 

[bubble07]

He has speed that Toby and Jan don't. Hr just needs to be careful with has barging in the box. A few times it's been right on the edge but they are very effective if not penalised

He will definitely come good

Regarding the goal. IF Toby was meant to be holding the line then Sanchez needed to have dropped back level with him. Then he would have been in a position to stop the shot.

 

[cookiemonster]

Sometimes you dont have to watch a player long enough to come to the conclusion he is not good enough

I wrote off Njie & Nkoudou early doors...got loads of negative reps...they are still young..new to the league etc...where are they now?

Ditto the 2 lightweights Carroll & Pritchard..same loads ofneg reps...where are they now?

Sanchez & Aurier are both not good enough...impetuous.rash ..constantly out of position.accidents waiting to happen

Lets see

 

[Dzejkob]

Rondon, Mitrovic, Deeney to name but 3 that all battered him this season at one stage.

I remember that game against Fulham. Mitrovic took him on target and they were in constant fight. And Mitrovic took nothing from it and actually should receive red card.

Won't argue about the other two as I don't really remember those games. We kept clean sheet against Newcastle though

Sometimes you dont have to watch a player long enough to come to the conclusion he is not good enough

I wrote off Njie & Nkoudou early doors...got loads of negative reps...they are still young..new to the league etc...where are they now?

Ditto the 2 lightweights Carroll & Pritchard..same loads ofneg reps...where are they now?

Sanchez & Aurier are both not good enough...impetuous.rash ..constantly out of position.accidents waiting to happen

Lets see

I see why people write him off. I even agree that when he playes accidents are waiting to happen. It's just they don't happen. If he makes an error he (almost) always manages to recover. As I said before, I can't remember any goal conceded when I said: yep, Sanchez is guilty, that was his fault. I think he will improve. If he will be as 'shaky' as he is now in 1-2 years time than I would have to agree with you. But as for now I still give him time.

 

[kaz Hirai]

He'll be a world class defender, he was playing a Europa League final at 20 , finishing 3rd in the prem at 21

He's in and out of the team this season purely because we decided (rightfully) to get full use out of Toby whose off...not like a defence has been better than last season however when Sanchez was the main

Just look at the inconsistency of kwp, winks and dele who are of the same age or older

Glad we got him

 

[double0]

Sometimes you dont have to watch a player long enough to come to the conclusion he is not good enough

I wrote off Njie & Nkoudou early doors...got loads of negative reps...they are still young..new to the league etc...where are they now?

Ditto the 2 lightweights Carroll & Pritchard..same loads ofneg reps...where are they now?

Sanchez & Aurier are both not good enough...impetuous.rash ..constantly out of position.accidents waiting to happen

Lets see

Strongly disagree with you on Sanchez he's been in and out the team this season for the more experienced defenders and look we've lost so many games nobody seems to say anything. What pisses me off is the unfair criticism Sanchez gets when our more experienced CB are lorded, take Wet Spam winning goal Davies stands off, allows the cross to come in, then Alderweireld missed timed the header he was positioned poorly and Sanchez is left chasing two mistakes before he could get close.

Reading some posts people are blaming Sanchez (baffling)

Aurier's been injured but when fit hadn't been given a run of games in the EPL however I would sell him.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I don’t get the flak out Sanchez receives. He’s solid, quick, comfortable on the ball and authoritative in the air and during most physical battles. His reading of the game can be off and he gets a touch complacent in one v ones but all in all he’s been a good signing and is still not 23.

We were so spoilt by Ledley that a lot of people forget that most centre backs don’t get into their best for till at least 26/27. This guy is on the right track. Additionally, central defence is all about partnerships, last season Sanchez had a good one with Vertonghen, this season he’s swapped partners a lot, been in and out of the side, been left, right and centre of a back three, left or right of a two man pairing, it’s a lot to take on. All I know is, Sanchez is the least of our problems and some people’s impatience with him is surprising.

 

[wrd]

I don’t get the flak out Sanchez receives. He’s solid, quick, comfortable on the ball and authoritative in the air and during most physical battles. His reading of the game can be off and he gets a touch complacent in one v ones but all in all he’s been a good signing and is still not 23.

We were so spoilt by Ledley that a lot of people forget that most centre backs don’t get into their best for till at least 26/27. This guy is on the right track. Additionally, central defence is all about partnerships, last season Sanchez had a good one with Vertonghen, this season he’s swapped partners a lot, been in and out of the side, been left, right and centre of a back three, left or right of a two man pairing, it’s a lot to take on. All I know is, Sanchez is the least of our problems and some people’s impatience with him is surprising.

I think the current climate of football fans is to look at who's at fault for every single goal, for a lot of goals yes errors can be avoided but yesterday, it was a great pass, antonios touch is superb which takes him away from Sanchez whilst simultaneously setting the ball up perfectly to dispatch his effort. People see Sanchez close and ipso facto it's his fault but for me it was just a great play by Antonio.

 

[mike_l]

I think some of it stems from him being our record signing, I do find it quite baffling that when we finally decide to spunk a huge fee on someone, we did it in a 3rd choice centre back, pretty inarguably also the wrong CB to get from Ajax at the time too.

Add to that the lack of signings since then, it's a solid recipe for unfair resentment towards him.

 

[werty]

I think the current climate of football fans is to look at who's at fault for every single goal, for a lot of goals yes errors can be avoided but yesterday, it was a great pass, antonios touch is superb which takes him away from Sanchez whilst simultaneously setting the ball up perfectly to dispatch his effort. People see Sanchez close and ipso facto it's his fault but for me it was just a great play by Antonio.

The fact that he wasn't close is he problem. His pace isn't always going to get him out of trouble. There was another terrible bit of defending in the first half that let Anderson through. He had some very good moments too, but he's making the same mistakes that you'd hope he'd be learning from by now.

 

[wrd]

The fact that he wasn't close is he problem. His pace isn't always going to get him out of trouble. There was another terrible bit of defending in the first half that let Anderson through. He had some very good moments too, but he's making the same mistakes that you'd hope he'd be learning from by now.

I agree with the second half that they're some issues but he's very young for a cb however for the goal, in the build up you see that antonio is Alders man, Alder got caught in no mans land with a great pass. I don't think it's fair to call Sanchez not being close in that scenario an error on his part. It's easy in hindsight when you know that Alder is going to go for an impossible header to say Sanchez should be closer imo.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I think some of it stems from him being our record signing, I do find it quite baffling that when we finally decide to spunk a huge fee on someone, we did it in a 3rd choice centre back, pretty inarguably also the wrong CB to get from Ajax at the time too.

Add to that the lack of signings since then, it's a solid recipe for unfair resentment towards him.

Is he third choice though? Since signing, he has played 52 league matches, Vertonghen has played 58 and Alderweireld has played 34. We also often deploy three at the back.

Additionally, at the time of signing, our AM options were well stocked (equally to now), our full back options consisted of Rose, Trippier and Davies (the latter two having just enjoyed good seasons), while Walker was in the process of going out with Aurier in (mistake admittedly) and our CM options involved an emerging Winks, a still highly thought of Dier, and a first choice of Wanyama and Dembele who had been the best pairing in the league the previous season. Then there was the anomaly of Sissoko, but in the summer we signed Sanchez we already looked very strong and apart from upgrading our Kane reserve (which we did Janssen ——> Llorente) the squad only really needed tweaking, and Sanchez was a very good tweak to do (we bought Foyth at the same time by the way) as it replenished from the bottom in our most aged, lowest shelf life part of the first team.

At that point, Winks and Wanyama’s injuries had yet to start, Dier was still a key part of a very good side, Dembele had just had his best season and Eriksen, Dele and Son were all electric. We still signed Moura the following January which has left us with very strong options in AM too, so I can’t think what would’ve made more sense that summer than signing one of the highest rated centre backs in Europe.

I’ll accept that better forward planning on the fullbacks, Dembele and Lamela front could’ve helped given the respective injury proneness and inconsistency of various players involved, but hindsight is always 20-20.

Last summer, however, that was when there was obvious repair needed, and moreso this coming summer, but in the summer of 2017 I think we got most things right.

 

[werty]

I agree with the second half that they're some issues but he's very young for a cb however for the goal, in the build up you see that antonio is Alders man, Alder got caught in no mans land with a great pass. I don't think it's fair to call Sanchez not being close in that scenario an error on his part. It's easy in hindsight when you know that Alder is going to go for an impossible header to say Sanchez should be closer imo.

It's easy to say it in hindsight because it's the truth. Alderweireld looks bad because it's a great pass and Sanchez being out of position. There's no reason for Sanchez not to be covering because there's no other threat. Antonio still might have scored anyway., but he should have been closer.