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Darth Vega

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aussie spur said:
Gee, Slot would require quite a revamp of our squad. Requires ball playing keeper, aggressive vertical passers, high press, bravery , likened to Bielsa...

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Unfortunately this would be an issue with any progressive manager we look to bring in. They're a little different but all of Poch, Enrique, Nagelsmann or Slot are missing so many pieces given the makeup of our current squad.
 
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rossdapep said:
I don't think we have as many egos as it's been led to believe.

Ten Hag had the same thing said about him at United and now Ronaldo and Pogba are gone they look much healthier.

Kane will always get onside if the team are exciting.
Lloris will be gone.
Son's laziness won't be tolerated and I don't see him as a trouble maker.

I then don't see any other players who would cause issues.

My feeling is that they are a tired group lacking in confidence.

A vibrant coach can change all of that, although he'll need a couple of the older ones to be gone.
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Thing is tho there is for me an ingrained mentality issues that goes all the way back to Poch’s final days. Yes we have seen glimpses of promise in the last few years such as the second half of last season under Conte but inevitably it always reverts to what we are seeing now.

Of course the style of football doesn’t help and I’m sure a change will go some way to rectifying this as you say. And I do think you’re right that confidence clearly plays a big part and with more confident tactics we may well see that spread through the team. Also as has been mentioned the personality of a manger obviously goes a long way. A key I think is also continuing to bring the average age of the squad down as younger players tend to have more drive and desire.

But I still feel it’s a big ask for someone like Slot who has had limited experience working with bigger name internationals especially if he doesn’t have a DoF here that understands him, his needs and how they fit into the overall vision.

This would be a very big jump for him even if we weren’t in disarray, which we very much are, I have my concerns. Expecting him to come here and build a team by himself would be unrealistic imo considering he has next to no experience of doing that as the longest he’s stayed at a team is currently, until summer, less then two seasons.

If we rectified the DoF situation first, which really is what we should be doing now and then that DoF wanted Slot as number one pick then I’d be a lot more embracing of the idea. Not that I don’t want him now and he could well be the magic pill to fix us. He just isn’t as clear a choice for me as he is others.

The fact this is essentially the end of a 5 year cycle of negativity whoever we bring in has a very big job on his hands imo, more so than just bringing in front foot football.
 
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Ornstein of Athletic reporting that De Zerbi is not in running to replace Potter. If we wanted him to come in summer seems like we'd get a free run at him.
 
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Britishhawk said:
Anyone else not keen on Mason continuing in the background ? I know he’s friends with the players but that could well be part of the problem.
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Given the relatively short time since his career-ending injury, I wonder if he's even got the highest level of coaching qualification (i believe he got a temporary exemption post-Mourinho).
 
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srups34 said:
If its a full reset then we have to sell Kane or Son and take a hit on a right few of our so called starting 11. The mentality is weak in every single one of those players.
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sidford said:
Ornstein of Athletic reporting that De Zerbi is not in running to replace Potter. If we wanted him to come in summer seems like we'd get a free run at him.
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Apart from the small matter of him wanting to come and his club not wanting to lose him, but apart from that a free run 😂
 
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rossdapep said:
I don't think we have as many egos as it's been led to believe.

Ten Hag had the same thing said about him at United and now Ronaldo and Pogba are gone they look much healthier.

Kane will always get onside if the team are exciting.
Lloris will be gone.
Son's laziness won't be tolerated and I don't see him as a trouble maker.

I then don't see any other players who would cause issues.

My feeling is that they are a tired group lacking in confidence.

A vibrant coach can change all of that, although he'll need a couple of the older ones to be gone.
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Spot on! One or two with substandard attitudes but it’s not a squad of bad eggs at all it’s a tired group lacking confidence as you say, the right new manager and playing style would change that.
 
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rossdapep said:
Yeah thats true.

I think you are seeing it now with Liverpool and Klopp.

That phase is over for them but the board are realising a rebuild is required and firing Klopp isn't an option.

We got to that point but Levy panicked and sent us down another route.

I am hopeful a new coach comes in and gets the team firing again and fans buoyant.

Law if averages tells you Levy at some point gets the manager call right.

But the issue is when we get to that point of getting over hurdles, Levy will always hold back, think further investment is not needed, things will stagnate and his delusion will lead to another fall back.
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This is exactly the problem on the pitch at Spurs for the last few years......great post mate (y)👏
 
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Shanks said:
Nope, sorry that isn’t on the manager at all.

score a penalty, then automatically sit deep.

then dick around making silly keep ball passes in our box allowed Everton to get closer to us and gather momentum.

then, the mistakes come in.

that is down to the players.

N O manager worth his salt will come to this club, given the playing staff.

mar need a fully new back line, goalkeeper, defensive and attacking midfielders - that’s probably around 400/500 mill in this market just to close the gap quickly - it ain’t ever gonna happen.
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Each to their own, but I just can’t agree with this. The manager is not in a 9-5 job where he coaches the players in the week then leaves them to their own thing during games. He is there to coach them to win each game, there may be a basic theme of how he implements this, but equally there has to be some fluidity opponent by opponent, and tweaks made game by game, especially in game, to react to how the game is going. Stellini did not adapt yesterday, he sent them out with the same Conte plan from all season, then when Everton showed more presence and desire, as our players wilted not knowing what to do next, there was zero guidance and support from the dugout. Look at the changes, Sanchez for Lenglet, like for like CB for CB because the latter was on a booking but ultimately putting the error prone former onto the wrong side of the pitch from what he’s used to. Son off, Moura on, again like for like in terms of wide forward, but Moura pressed over to unfamiliar territory on the left, shocker he’s out of position when he makes the red card tackle. What in those Manager driven changes was a proactive move to alter the flow of the game? It was just more of the same.
There was a follow up post earlier, about how the players have been drilled under Jose, Nuno and Conte to deliberately sit back and wait for mistakes to pounce, inviting pressure, none of which has really gone that well for us, so shouldn’t be a shock it didn’t pan out last night either. But off the back of that style being repeatedly drilled, I’m not surprised we look so clueless and nervous on the ball, been drilled to not invite mistakes, not encouraged to be brave.
I just don’t see that changing under Stellini, he has openly said he learnt everything from Conte and will adopt the same principles. Saw that last night, same formation, same tactics, same players. At least when Mason got his run post Jose he shuffled things about a bit.
A new manager is needed double quick. Levy’s apparent acceptance of wait till the summer just screams apathy. Yes maybe he’s waiting for a specific candidate, but so much can go wrong the way we are currently set up, that it will actually make the job even harder for whoever comes in. It feels like a lose lose situation, wait for the right candidate, 9 more games of spiralling downwards. Make a call now, maybe get the wrong person, albeit the number of managers out there you’d assume there’s someone who’s a good fit who’ll come now. We (or rather Levy) just seems content to drift aimlessly, all the time visually doing more and more damage. Awful. The lack of leadership top to bottom is what is creating this toxic mess. Still stuns me that a man so driven and focussed as Levy in the business sense cannot see the haphazard approach to the football side (you know, the important bit) is so detrimental to his desired success on the business/profit side. If he could apply half the focus and drive he does on the finances to actually getting us a football team to compete he’d see huge rewards.
 
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samspurs92 said:
After last night I’ve just had enough.

More than ever, I want Poch back.

Yes, he’s not perfect or blameless for how it ended last time but I just want someone that you know is in it for the long haul and will be trying to rebuild the club in the right way.

I’ve had enough of established players not being held accountable by the club and we need to start investing in the players that have the right character and mentality.

We should have backed in the first place and let him get rid of all the deadwood. Rejecting that massive offer for Dier from United just looks more and more stupid by the game.
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I understand the sentiment but I honestly just don’t think it would work. We need a restart as a football club and I think if Poch came back Levy would just think that everything was going to magically fix itself by his arrival alone, and we wouldn’t get the root and branch change that we need.

I’m also quite suspicious of the fact that Poch has barely worked since he left us - I really feel he needs another 5 years and couple of clubs with some success in other countries before he will genuinely offer us something more.
 
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