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Japhet

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Not impossible that Paulinho will still pick up. Soldado is shot (unfortunately because I like him).


Don't really get your reasoning on this one. They've both failed pretty miserably, but why can Paulinho improve but Soldado is finished?
 

shelfmonkey

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Bent and Bently. Both overpriced but worse, neither fitted the type of football we played. Completely illogical wastes of money

There's a connection there!! Don't buy players with the word 'bent' in the name!
 

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Khumal - waste of 1.5 million for a player who wasn't even given a Shirt number to wear let alone play for us for a minute.


Khumalo is probably one of the best players we've ever signed, but for commercial reasons. We signed him just after (if not arranged before) the deal with Investec, who are a South Africa based company.

I think we received around £20m from the in sponsorship deals over 3 seasons, and there's very little doubt that Khumalo (and probably Pienaar) were very much related to the deal.
 

nightgoat

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Answer is quite simple

3 players...

i) Lamela
ii) Soldado
iii) Khumalo

Lamela & Soldado - we bought them together for 53million
Their combined worth as of now should be 15m - chunk of that money may come in for Lamela in installments over 4 year period from some 'Itallian giants' - This is entirely down to his age & 'promise'. Atleast Soldado has won some games with his goals but can't think of a single game we won due to his goals.

 

VegasII

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Gilberto was a pretty wretched investment.
Likewise Raziak.
Postiga was horrible but we did end up with Pedro the pirate.
Zamora was horrible as well but then we naffed him off in order to help get JD.
Bentley - great goal at the emirates and kicking a ball through a window into a dustbin. Almost the same thing to be fair. He also soaked Harry, which was amusing.
Bent. Yeah, can't think of many moments. Seem to remember him poaching a goal against Derby from about 1/4 of a yard off the line. JD not happy at that haha.
A lot of the tosh we bought with the Bale money.

I'm sure there's a lot more - including the earlier era under Hoddle. Lots of stinkers in there.
 

lenny7

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Some have mentioned him already, but Bentley stands out for me. Almost worth the transfer fee for the goal in the 4-4 at the Death Star, but to be fair that was a shocking bit of business.
 

Blockbuster

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Think a lot of people are being harsh on Keane, he was a great servant for us, we sold him for a bit profit but at the time, he was coming back off a great season, I was gutted to see him go.

we then went onto 2 points 8 games... we had just brought JD back which was great, but then he broke his ankle... we needed someone... Keane came back and played well, we finished the season in good shape, but we should have sold him again that season but it was always going to be tough, I do feel we would have struggled if he didnt come back.

think he had a great presence in the dressing room and was a leader, which was lacked.
 

Blockbuster

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Bentley & Bent obviously are bad pieces of business, you could argue Bentley arriving spurred Lennon on to have a few great seasons with us, so maybe it was worth £15million?

Same can be said for Soldado... spurring Kane on?? funny old game.
 

Bulletspur

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I am referring to some posts on this thread. I think a lot of the criticism of ex players on here would be at least credible if the same criticism were given at the time when they signed and played for us.. We welcomed 99% of them with open arms but are now quick to dismiss and scorn the likes of Zokora, Palacious, Corluka et al who gave of their best despite their indivual limitations. I just hate it when when ex Spurs players are disrespected in this way. My Monday morning rant!
 
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we_all_loved_freund

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Any evidence of this belief Soldado was made up of add ons?

I believe there is quite a bit, yes (although perhaps a substantial bit of conjecture as well). If you are asking me to provide you with the evidence, well, frankly, I can't be arsed
 

eddiebailey

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Of our top 10 record signings according to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rds_and_statistics#Highest_transfer_fees_paid only Modric could be said to be a unqualified success. The others range from the defensible to the abyssmal. The jury is still out on Lamela, Soldado, Paulinho and Dembele, but only in so far as whether they will achieve a Bent-like redemption through sell-on value.

Perhaps people will bear this in mind next time they berate Levy for not splashing the cash. An open cheque book is no guarantee of success.
 

Spursidol

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Bent and Bently. Both overpriced but worse, neither fitted the type of football we played. Completely illogical wastes of money

Not sure I fully agree on Bentley or Bent.

Bentley was bought because Ramos didn't like Lennon (at that time a decent fast RW prospect - not like the player who went on loan to Everton), and Ramos saw no need to have speed, and went fior Bentley who had a great cross but no speed (like Beckham or so it was said), with Hutton providing speed from RB.

However Ramos ideas were incorrect, speed is key - one of the reasons why Ramos failed as a PL manager, and with it Bentley (possibly not helped by Bentley soaking Redknapp in a preess conference), and with Lennon returning to some form and the Spurs side.

Bent was seen as a good goalscorer (at Charlton he had been scoring for fun), and think he was only signed as decent goalscorers are like hens teeth, so when available he was signed even though he was a '4th striker' who we didn't need and really didn't fit our style of play (albeit I recall lots of fans wanting Huntelaar, another goalscorer without much ability to create and hold up play etc(.

I understand we got about £4m or £5m back on loan fees from Bentley but net he still cost in exdess of £10m plus high wages for a limited return. Hutton we also lost money on - like Bentley we had to let his contract run down and lost circa £6m. An expensive right wing combo experiment which didn't work out

Bent, at least we got our money back, even though his on field performances didn't really help us - but that's only bacause we were not set up for a fgoalscorer like him.
 

kaz Hirai

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Don't really get your reasoning on this one. They've both failed pretty miserably, but why can Paulinho improve but Soldado is finished?

Paul is only 26, and his first season wasn't that bad. Bobby has rarely ever looked competent unfortunately
 

alfie103

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Why dont City or Chelsea count ? Is it because they have rich owners like us ? But rich owners who put success above profit.
Talk about moving the fucking goalposts to back up your argument.

Not every club can get an extremely wealthy owner who is willing to spend a huge amount of money on the club. For all of Levy faults, I think he has done a pretty good job considered where we were before he took over.
 

eddiev14

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Bent No way. While he was shite when he was here, we still sold him for 16.5m to Sunderland. We didnt lose anything on him.

Also Bentley in a way made some meaningful contribution towards late end of 2009/10 PL season when we qualified for CL.
Even by Bentley's standard, IMO Soldado & Lamela are pretty bad buys.

I guess there are loads of moments that affected the club for a variety of reasons but, for me, the reason that Darren Bent transfer sticks out so badly is because it was the start of the end of the Jol era.

An era I really loved.

Everyone knew we needed some experienced defenders that summer. If you believe the stories (which I do) Jol wanted either Dunne or Distin, who we could easily have signed.

We never went in for either of them and they eventually moved to Aston Villa and Pompey for relative peanuts.

Instead, Comolli bought a completely inexperienced Kaboul from Auxerre (who was ridiculously error-prone at the time, being only 21 years old and from Ligue Un) and then - when we thought we'd get some experience at the back - he spends £16.5m on a player we simply did not need.

At that time we had Keane, Berbatov and Defoe. It was crazy.

It completely fucked up the start to our season. Not only because we had a shite defence but also because Jol was clearly being pressured into finding a way to play 3 up front.

The end result led to a disaster (we conceded 21 goals and only picked up 7pts in our first 10 games) and - ultimately - the big man was gone.

I'll accept that Bentley made a decent contribution in 2009/10 but, fuck me, his story has to be the biggest waste of money and talent in the Premier League era. Unbelievable what happened to his career.
 

Bobbins

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Not every club can get an extremely wealthy owner who is willing to spend a huge amount of money on the club. For all of Levy faults, I think he has done a pretty good job considered where we were before he took over.

Haven't you ever visited Knob Land?

It's a wondrous fairy kingdom where the moment Dark Lord Levy puts the club (and his filthy lies about pretending to build a new stadium) up for sale, the world's richest Russo-Arab trillionaire gas/oil/asparagus magnate, who owns three colony bases on Mars as well as 95% of the ocean floor, comes along and buys Spurs just because he's also the world's most generous man, and wants to spend his trillions on us and nothing else. He also wants to be Knob's best new mate ever, and they spend the rest of their days watching Messi and Ronaldo win us the Champion's League whilst sipping Martian champagne in their molten-gold jacuzzi.

You know, despite FFP having put an end to all this anyway.
 

Spurger King

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Haven't you ever visited Knob Land?

It's a wondrous fairy kingdom where the moment Dark Lord Levy puts the club (and his filthy lies about pretending to build a new stadium) up for sale, the world's richest Russo-Arab trillionaire gas/oil/asparagus magnate, who owns three colony bases on Mars as well as 95% of the ocean floor, comes along and buys Spurs just because he's also the world's most generous man, and wants to spend his trillions on us and nothing else. He also wants to be Knob's best new mate ever, and they spend the rest of their days watching Messi and Ronaldo win us the Champion's League whilst sipping Martian champagne in their molten-gold jacuzzi.

You know, despite FFP having put an end to all this anyway.

Well you learn something new every day.
 
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