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Joško Gvardiol

The Scarecrow

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Jan 17, 2013
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Just sell us off ffs. News like this really boils my piss. I know I'm overreacting but we have everything ready to go with the stadium, coaching setup and training facilities and still we have to be thrifty
We be bought Romero for half that. Gvardiol is far from the finished article. It's well possible to compete on a more modest budget when your competitors spend so recklessly.
 

synththfc

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this is why i don’t pin my hopes on trophies. we just simply cannot compete with oil clubs and clubs like chelsea and we never will until our current ownership is gone.

this isn’t a dig at levy or ENIC, it’s just a fact of what we currently are vs what they currently are. it’s a matter of whether or not you’re content with our ownership vs a slightly more dubious ownership with more “ambition”.
 

Wadec

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Absolutely crazy money to spend considering his release clause next year. Spending that much money and allowing the olayer to stay for a year seems insane to me.

I understand why we will feel frustrated but you have to assume the way Chelsea and United are spending money is going to catch up with then at some point? They both overpay on deals to get them done and are hardly making huge money back with sales. At some point they are not going to be able to just overpay to get deals done.

Let's hope Lenglet finds his form and confidence as we need a LCB.
 

Pochie

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Our cash flow as a club is really just starting to come online post-pandemic, what with receipts from gigs, US football et al. It’s a fact that finance-wise covid f***ed us more than any other club.

This player is a blow but next season onwards we’ll be shopping for more expensive players. #trust
 

Aphex

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There's a fine line between ambition and stupidity. I don't know which side of the line this is on, BUT I'm not surprised, or upset, that we erred on the side of caution.
Seems a ridiculous fee to me, let them have him.
The way some of you are reacting is embarrassing. How many of you have actually seen him play?

It's not about the player, I think it's just the realisation that under Levy/ENIC we will never ever properly go for it. We waited all these years for the stadium, apparently that was going to change the game for us, but let's be honest it's never the game changer we thought it would be. Our spending is still as conservative as it always has been under Levy.

We all know in the lead up to this window, apparently it was going to be the window of all windows. Yet we will have been outspent by Chelsea, United, Forest, West Ham for example. Arsenal have spent far more than us in recent years.

60 mill on Richie, 35 on Bissouma, those are our big signings. It's a piss in the ocean compared to windows Chelsea routinely do.

Add Newcastle to the equation in the near future it will only get tougher for us. City won't drop off, and Liverpool are up there. Arsenal have spent more than us over the past few years.

I could accept it if we were an amazing side who wins things, but we aren't. We have one league cup in 20 years.
 

taidgh

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Ffs. Koulibaly, Fofana, Gvardiol, Cucarella in one window (even if Gvardiol remains at Leipzig for a season) is sickening. Ambition.
I don't know that it's a lack of ambition. Chelsea have, for a long time, had a different business plan than us.

But you're right, it's gutting. That's an amazing window for them.
 

cider spurs

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Everyone said the same thing when Liverpool bought VVD.

If he keeps Chelsea in the running for a PL title, CL spots, and an occasional trophy. Its probably a worthwhile investment.


(It also makes a Super League more likely, but that is for another thread.)


Naybe, but team A,B or C sign player X,Y or Z and some lose their shit.

Koulibaly latest case in point. Early days, but don't see him as worthy of a meltdown because he rocked up there.

Antony to United for about the same money as Gvardiol, I'll call it now, waaaaay too much money.

Fine if we've got bottomless pit of funds, we're not there yet. I do expect to see the calibre of players we attract and wages to improve as soon as we truly see the benefits of revenue streams kick in from new stadium.
 

VoteMe4Prez

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Our cash flow as a club is really just starting to come online post-pandemic, what with receipts from gigs, US football et al. It’s a fact that finance-wise covid f***ed us more than any other club.

This player is a blow but next season onwards we’ll be shopping for more expensive players. #trust
I hope you're right
 

synththfc

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it’s also why, even though i adore conte and part of me hopes he stays forever, i feel the whole project we’re under, this “win now” mentality, is futile.

we’re never going to compete with these clubs to “win now”, we have to get lucky going the poch route and have a crop of players peak at the same time after years of development.

like i said, i love conte, he’s my favorite manager we’ve had in my lifetime, but i just wonder if we’re wasting his time as well as our own time
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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I would be stunned if Chelsea continue spending like this long term.

In my opinion what we are seeing is an initial spending spree which was promised as a condition of them buying the club.

In 2/3 years time, we will start to see the true model for their new owners and I would be surprised if it wasn’t much more sensible and revenue based.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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I would be stunned if Chelsea continue spending like this long term.

In my opinion what we are seeing is an initial spending spree which was promised as a condition of them buying the club.

In 2/3 years time, we will start to see the true model for their new owners and I would be surprised if it wasn’t much more sensible and revenue based.
Based on what?
 

Timberwolf

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Maybe the most mental thing of all is that if Chelsea sign Gvardiol and Fofana (all but done) that's over 300m spent which is even bigger than they ever spent under bloody Abramovic in one window.

In relative terms the only windows that would equal it would be the ones when Roman first arrived at Chelsea and the market was nowhere near as inflated as it is now.

Don't know enough about FFP but I seriously hope this come backs to bite them somehow. Almost 200m solely on CBs is absolutely absurd given they can barely score at the moment but you imagine this won't be the last of it.

Hope they miss out on CL and Boehly gets fucked.

****s.
 

CrouchPotato

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This is honestly just insane. You cannot tell me spending this amount of money and loaning a player back makes any sense.

They have also spent 300m on defenders while their striker is Havertz. I am confused
 

cider spurs

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Thing is our total revenue should be nearly 4x higher this year than 10 years ago when the equivalent transfer would have been £20-30m so in that sense I don’t see this as crazy or in relation to where ticket prices etc have gone in recent years

if he’s as good as people think he is of course

i.e potential to be a top 5 world CB


Surely operating and associated costs have risen also though.

Either way, would I have liked him at Spurs. For sure.

Am I surprised we got blown away by one of the big spenders. Not at all.
 
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