Joško Gvardiol

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Based on what?

American owners and a big consortium full of lots of different investors who want profit.

When you have that many people involved it’s nearly always with an endgame of making money and being a sustainable business.

 

[Darth Vega]

I've taken my post down as I know it's off topic. You are right though and yeah another missed opportunity. I'm absolutely sick of it and the bullshit excuses we keep making

It isn't an excuse, it's football. Imagine you and I both happen to run similar businesses equally well and then I win the Euromillions one day. I decide to poach your entire staff, the talent you want to hire to replace the staff I've just poached, buy better offices, better equipment and then expand globally... how can you stop me? The answer is you can't. You've done absolutely nothing wrong and yet you've still lost. Your only hope is that you too can win the Euromillions, but you can't plan or strategise for that, just hope and pray.

The blame isn't on you in the way it isn't on ENIC or Levy or anyone, it's on football. It's a reflection of society and we live in a highly unregulated capitalist society. Unfortunately, football is unique in that we're so wedded to our club that we refuse to acknowledge how broken it all is because we can't give it up, so we lie to ourselves every year that maybe it'll be different because football without hope is nothing, then shit like this happens and we all come crashing back down to earth again because we're reminded of how fucked the system is.

It's the fault of FIFA, UEFA, the FA etc for welcoming these people into the sport and also the media for enabling it via a lack of public criticism because, not only do we as fans have to suffer, we have to watch pundits on Sky and BT wank themselves silly every week while state-owned football clubs owned by racists and homophobes pump illegally gotten billions (acquired at huge cost to ordinary people) to buy toys that are shinier and prettier than ours while we get ridiculed for being Spursy (whatever the fuck that means) even though we've done everything by the book.

It's fucking infuriating but I've accepted it and I choose to live in hope despite it all because I love my club and I'd rather watch us in this broken corrupt system than not at all because in and amongst all of it there are still moments that bring me joy like nothing else really can.

 

[McFlash]

Bloody hell. Had a really busy day at work today, got home, cracked a beer and came on to SC to chill out a bit...
Fuck me, the first two threads I've looked at and it appears that the sky is falling and we've nothing to look forward to, ever!

Cheers up guys and gals, it's really not all bad. ?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

American owners and a big consortium full of lots of different investors who want profit.

When you have that many people involved it’s nearly always with an endgame of making money and being a sustainable business.

Sports teams in America are mostly run on the idea that the payoff is when you sell. Nobody owns professional teams in America to live off the annual profits.

 

[wrd]

Bloody hell. Had a really busy day at work today, got home, cracked a beer and came on to SC to chill out a bit...
Fuck me, the first two threads I've looked at and it appears that the sky is falling and we've nothing to look forward to, ever!

Cheers up guys and gals, it's really not all bad. ?

If only we had lost to Leeds 3-0

 

[dirtyh]

Bloody hell. Had a really busy day at work today, got home, cracked a beer and came on to SC to chill out a bit...
Fuck me, the first two threads I've looked at and it appears that the sky is falling and we've nothing to look forward to, ever!

Cheers up guys and gals, it's really not all bad. ?

wait until Dan James arrives. Then you’ll see some shit

 

[Spursberg]

seems to be the standard though, When we thinks Spurs is spending Big like 55 mill on a player, the new "standard is 60+ mill for players. No excuse if Chelsea are still able to spend like this, spurs will have to follow suit or we will fall behind.

I mean clubs below us are spending almost the same and this was our "war Chest" year . Not that spending alone is the same as success, but if the players are available we just need to go for it!

 

[McFlash]

It isn't an excuse, it's football. Imagine you and I both happen to run similar businesses equally well and then I win the Euromillions one day. I decide to poach your entire staff, the talent you want to hire to replace the staff I've just poached, buy better offices, better equipment and then expand globally... how can you stop me? The answer is you can't. You've done absolutely nothing wrong and yet you've still lost. Your only hope is that you too can win the Euromillions, but you can't plan or strategise for that, just hope and pray.

The blame isn't on you in the way it isn't on ENIC or Levy or anyone, it's on football. It's a reflection of society and we live in a highly unregulated capitalist society. Unfortunately, football is unique in that we're so wedded to our club that we refuse to acknowledge how broken it all is because we can't give it up, so we lie to ourselves every year that maybe it'll be different because football without hope is nothing, then shit like this happens and we all come crashing back down to earth again because we're reminded of how fucked the system is.

It's the fault of FIFA, UEFA, the FA etc for welcoming these people into the sport and also the media for enabling it via a lack of public criticism because, not only do we as fans have to suffer, we have to watch pundits on Sky and BT wank themselves silly every week while state-owned football clubs owned by racists and homophobes pump illegally gotten billions (acquired at huge cost to ordinary people) to buy toys that are shinier and prettier than ours while we get ridiculed for being Spursy (whatever the fuck that means) even though we've done everything by the book.

It's fucking infuriating but I've accepted it and I choose to live in hope despite it all because I love my club and I'd rather watch us in this broken corrupt system then not at all because in and amongst all of it there are still moments that bring me joy like nothing else really can.

And that is the post I needed, well said mate.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

This is honestly just insane. You cannot tell me spending this amount of money and loaning a player back makes any sense.

They have also spent 300m on defenders while their striker is Havertz. I am confused

I guess what they are thinking is next summer, although he will have a 60 mil release clause there will no doubt be a crazy bidding war with insane signing on bonuses and agent fees and a very good chance he ends up at City, PSG etc. It’s a crazy gamble but in a warped way I understand why they are doing it. It’s still madness tho as he could have shit season and/or get injured.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Sports teams in America are mostly run on the idea that the payoff is when you sell. Nobody owns professional teams in America to live off the annual profits.

But that still doesn’t involve ploughing in hundreds of millions on top of your initial investment?

Even if they don’t take profits out annually, the consortium will not want to keep putting in millions upon millions to keep Chelsea sustainable.

After this initial spending spree for a year or 2 I believe they will settle in to a much more business based approach based on their revenues.

And at the ridiculous price they paid for Chelsea, good luck to them making a profit when they sell.

 

[Johnny J]

I don't want him here anyway, and I've felt that way ever since I read this news about Chelsea a couple of hours ago.

To the Dan James thread!!!

 

[EastUpperDK82]

Wow.... this thread has exploded ??? ... incredible... just staggering...

 

[k1cks77]

But that still doesn’t involve ploughing in hundreds of millions on top of your initial investment?

Even if they don’t take profits out annually, the consortium will not want to keep putting in millions upon millions to keep Chelsea sustainable.

After this initial spending spree for a year or 2 I believe they will settle in to a much more business based approach based on their revenues.

And at the ridiculous price they paid for Chelsea, good luck to them making a profit when they sell.

Yep like liverpool who have had record revenues, challenged on all fronts and now dont ever get over a net spend of £100million after their heavy spending a few years ago.

 

[mmidgers]

It isn't an excuse, it's football. Imagine you and I both happen to run similar businesses equally well and then I win the Euromillions one day. I decide to poach your entire staff, the talent you want to hire to replace the staff I've just poached, buy better offices, better equipment and then expand globally... how can you stop me? The answer is you can't. You've done absolutely nothing wrong and yet you've still lost. Your only hope is that you too can win the Euromillions, but you can't plan or strategise for that, just hope and pray.

The blame isn't on you in the way it isn't on ENIC or Levy or anyone, it's on football. It's a reflection of society and we live in a highly unregulated capitalist society. Unfortunately, football is unique in that we're so wedded to our club that we refuse to acknowledge how broken it all is because we can't give it up, so we lie to ourselves every year that maybe it'll be different because football without hope is nothing, then shit like this happens and we all come crashing back down to earth again because we're reminded of how fucked the system is.

It's the fault of FIFA, UEFA, the FA etc for welcoming these people into the sport and also the media for enabling it via a lack of public criticism because, not only do we as fans have to suffer, we have to watch pundits on Sky and BT wank themselves silly every week while state-owned football clubs owned by racists and homophobes pump illegally gotten billions (acquired at huge cost to ordinary people) to buy toys that are shinier and prettier than ours while we get ridiculed for being Spursy (whatever the fuck that means) even though we've done everything by the book.

It's fucking infuriating but I've accepted it and I choose to live in hope despite it all because I love my club and I'd rather watch us in this broken corrupt system than not at all because in and amongst all of it there are still moments that bring me joy like nothing else really can.

Great post ?

 

[jurgen]

Mental money - but I wonder what Bastoni's buy it now price would be if we really wanted it? £59m was being floated around but clearly that would not be enough as it sounded eminently reasonable.

Perhaps this breaking is what Hercules was alluding to - other clubs doing the 'next level' spending we thought we'd be doing this window and getting our favourite targets?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

But that still doesn’t involve ploughing in hundreds of millions on top of your initial investment?

Even if they don’t take profits out annually, the consortium will not want to keep putting in millions upon millions to keep Chelsea sustainable.

After this initial spending spree for a year or 2 I believe they will settle in to a much more business based approach based on their revenues.

And at the ridiculous price they paid for Chelsea, good luck to them making a profit when they sell.

We will see.

Boehly and I share an alma mater, but he has clearly done more with his education than I have with mine. I suspect they have a plan for building, and sustaining, brand value in the club.

If they have to invest an additional £50m per year for 10 years, and then sell the club for £10B - it will have been well worth the additional investment.

 

[thelak]

Surely operating and associated costs have risen also though.

Either way, would I have liked him at Spurs. For sure.

Am I surprised we got blown away by one of the big spenders. Not at all.

agreed but still think the we are downplaying our ability with the new stadium to afford a deal like this

I honestly don’t know how good this guy is but this seems to have been the fee for him all summer and people were waxing lyrical about him

my issue is not us not getting him but people saying we can’t pay the fee / it’s crazy when if he’s that good the fee may not look so crazy to me at least

very little room for error of course if you are paying that much

there was a time when £2m for a player was crazy then £30m then £60m

 

[cider spurs]

We will see.

Boehly and I share an alma mater, but he has clearly done more with his education than I have with mine. I suspect they have a plan for building, and sustaining, brand value in the club.

If they have to invest an additional £50m per year for 10 years, and then sell the club for £10B - it will have been well worth the additional investment.

I dunno.

I had to Google alma mater.

 

[T-Bone]

If it comes to fruition at least we’ll know Chelsea won’t be bidding for Bastoni ?

Theyll probably buy him to knowing them

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The meltdown crew have been waiting all summer for this ?. Go for your lives - it’s your time to shine ?