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alexis

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Benefits of having a number of clubs hoover young talent and you can give them game time till good enough for Leipzig. Ain’t a bad model
 

VancouverSpurs

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How’d you mean
Starting in/around 2002 (when I became a Spurs fan) and afterwards, Levy's approach was to sign up and coming young, preferably UK talents who hadn't made it at a big club - Carrick, Huddlestone, Lennon, Davenport, Walker, Naughton, Rose, Dawson, Bent, Jenas, Bale. We did the same with other players from abroad as well (with less success) - Berbatov, Modric as being good examples. The sales of those players and reinvestment of the proceeds into new players and infrastructure has been crucial to our growth as a club.
 

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Starting in/around 2002 (when I became a Spurs fan) and afterwards, Levy's approach was to sign up and coming young, preferably UK talents who hadn't made it at a big club - Carrick, Huddlestone, Lennon, Davenport, Walker, Naughton, Rose, Dawson, Bent, Jenas, Bale. We did the same with other players from abroad as well (with less success) - Berbatov, Modric as being good examples. The sales of those players and reinvestment of the proceeds into new players and infrastructure has been crucial to our growth as a club.
With RB the model it is a bit different. The RB clubs in other smaller leagues such as RB Salzburg scout players, buy them, integrate to RB playing culture and once they are good enough send them to RB Leipzig.
 
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alexis

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Starting in/around 2002 (when I became a Spurs fan) and afterwards, Levy's approach was to sign up and coming young, preferably UK talents who hadn't made it at a big club - Carrick, Huddlestone, Lennon, Davenport, Walker, Naughton, Rose, Dawson, Bent, Jenas, Bale. We did the same with other players from abroad as well (with less success) - Berbatov, Modric as being good examples. The sales of those players and reinvestment of the proceeds into new players and infrastructure has been crucial to our growth as a club.
Got it my point was more because of the amount of clubs RB own they can assure decent prospects football. Progress to Leipzig being the best they can offer before selling. This advantage gets around the poor loans and loan strategy we’ve had
 

VancouverSpurs

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Got it my point was more because of the amount of clubs RB own they can assure decent prospects football. Progress to Leipzig being the best they can offer before selling. This advantage gets around the poor loans and loan strategy we’ve had
You're right, they've taken the strategy and perfected it. Would be interesting if Red Bull ever bought a real heavy-hitter club. Wonder if they could feed talent up and up creating a monster of a mega-club.
 

Norvern Munkey

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You're right, they've taken the strategy and perfected it. Would be interesting if Red Bull ever bought a real heavy-hitter club. Wonder if they could feed talent up and up creating a monster of a mega-club.
The red bull Tottenham hotspur arena has a rather grand ring to it doesn't it?
 

Norvern Munkey

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Arse ring maybe, we can’t have red in the grounds name
Now come on ... red has many other connotations besides those knob jockeys ..... could be Liverpool, a well slapped backside, the colour of sunburnt skin, a dogs lipstick when he is a bit too pleased to see you, red hot, tomato ketchup, a nice shade of saucy underwear..... don't let those charlatans down the road impact on missing out on some of life's pleasures.. its not healthy ???
 

freeeki

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Have to say I've largely ignored this link so far as I'm not familiar with the player.

He appears to be very highly rated, but £70m+ for a 20 year old CB sounds bonkers to me. Not that I'm against the idea in principle, but can anyone explain why the price tag is so high or whether he is indeed the best option we could be signing?

Admittedly that is slightly older than De Ligt was when he moved to Juventus for a similar fee, and I absolutely would have supported us signing him for that amount at the time.
 

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Have to say I've largely ignored this link so far as I'm not familiar with the player.

He appears to be very highly rated, but £70m+ for a 20 year old CB sounds bonkers to me. Not that I'm against the idea in principle, but can anyone explain why the price tag is so high or whether he is indeed the best option we could be signing?

Admittedly that is slightly older than De Ligt was when he moved to Juventus for a similar fee, and I absolutely would have supported us signing him for that amount at the time.
Seen as a generational talent, plays LCB the position we are actively looking for. Brings the ball out of defence really well, good long range passing. Looks really assured and calm for someone so young especially playing at CB.

He is about 6,2 adds height, he’s also extremely strong and looks ready made for the PL. I would say more aggressive than Bastoni which would make him a slightly better fit in my eyes.

All in all it is a gamble and IF we did buy him you are hoping he reaches his potential. I’d honestly say he is better than Davies already, however he will probably make a few mistakes being so young.

If it did come off and all went well it is essentially a part of the back line sorted for the next 10 years.
 

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Have to say I've largely ignored this link so far as I'm not familiar with the player.

He appears to be very highly rated, but £70m+ for a 20 year old CB sounds bonkers to me. Not that I'm against the idea in principle, but can anyone explain why the price tag is so high or whether he is indeed the best option we could be signing?

Admittedly that is slightly older than De Ligt was when he moved to Juventus for a similar fee, and I absolutely would have supported us signing him for that amount at the time.
Hard to think of a better fit for the LCB role in Contes system. Great ball carrier and long-range passing. Very strong and mobile. 6ft 1. Aggressive in the tackle. He looks better suited to the PL than Bastoni IMO.

The slight concern for me at that fee is whether long-term he would be quite as elite in a two-man partnership, especially as there is a similar question mark over Romero. Also the fact that Conte will have long since moved on by the time this kid even begins to peak.
 

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Have to say I've largely ignored this link so far as I'm not familiar with the player.

He appears to be very highly rated, but £70m+ for a 20 year old CB sounds bonkers to me. Not that I'm against the idea in principle, but can anyone explain why the price tag is so high or whether he is indeed the best option we could be signing?

Admittedly that is slightly older than De Ligt was when he moved to Juventus for a similar fee, and I absolutely would have supported us signing him for that amount at the time.
Ticks all the boxes for us. Athletic, a good interceptor and tackler, and good with the ball at his feet. Definitely a generational talent.
His only real weakness is that he can be a bit rash in the tackle and needs to improve a lot in aerial duels.

He'd lock down a starting spot for sure and will likely go on to become one of the best defenders in the world if he can stay healthy and humble.
 

djhotspur

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Hard to think of a better fit for the LCB role in Contes system. Great ball carrier and long-range passing. Very strong and mobile. 6ft 1. Aggressive in the tackle. He looks better suited to the PL than Bastoni IMO.

The slight concern for me at that fee is whether long-term he would be quite as elite in a two-man partnership, especially as there is a similar question mark over Romero. Also the fact that Conte will have long since moved on by the time this kid even begins to peak.
We’ve already been told part of paratici job is to ensure the continuity of the system and players fitting a system, so a manager will be brought in to continue that. We have a short list of managers will ensure that already drawn up.

plus, who is to say Conte won’t stay? If he is truly backed every season, gets a squad to suit his system this summer, so that next summer it’s a case of adding 1 or 2 high value elite players each year to ensure we compete and grow, rather than needing a huge revamp ever year, similar to what Liverpool and city do now.
There is no reason conte won’t stay if we back him and he keeps control over who we bring in and the club listens to him. We have been told we are very financially secure, he seems to be happy at the club so why not continue?

It is a huge fee. But he’s young has s huge ceiling and is perfect for what we need and will basically ensure we are set for at least 4-5 years at CB, provided bremer or a quality younger CCB come in too. We have money to spend, and these kind of deals are absolutely what we should be doing to compete and take advantage of opportunities. If gvardiol signs and new contract this summer with a release clause and has another stand out season, there is zero chance we sign him next year. Every big club will be in for him.
 
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