Wilfried Zaha

[slartibartfast]

I hope this story is bullshit.
If we get a dm, a rb and a lb then , yes, lets get zaha in. Until then lets prioritise what we urgently need please mr levy sir xx

 

[dagraham]

I hope this story is bullshit.
If we get a dm, a rb and a lb then , yes, lets get zaha in. Until then lets prioritise what we urgently need please mr levy sir xx

I’ll take any good player at this point. Although there are areas that are clearly more pressing than others, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that we need squad improvements in every position

 

[mil1lion]

This link has gone on longer than the Sess one. We do need another attacker when we sell Eriksen so I wouldn't say no. We dont seem to have room for an Eriksen like for like now, he seems to play centre midfield under Jose so maybe another forward makes sense. Still need a defensive midfielder and right back though.

 

[slartibartfast]

I’ll take any good player at this point. Although there are areas that are clearly more pressing than others, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that we need squad improvements in every position

Disagree.
We already have very very good players in attack. Players better than Zaha imo. We should be wiping the floor with Colchester, Norwich, Brighton, Southampton and bloody Middlesborough with the quality we have up top. Son, Moura, Kane, Alli, Lamela, LoCelso, Ndombele. If you cant get a tune out of that lot then I'm sorry but you're doing something wrong.
I mean, any of them walk straight into all of those teams mentioned starting 11s while not one of their players gets in ours, even with our problems.
It makes no difference who you have in attack if they dont see the ball quick enough (at all).
We have one of the best strikers in the world who is going 40 mins + without getting a touch unless he comes back into his own half to get it!
We are going close to ht before we've had a shot because we hardly get in the oppositions half!
The opposition on the other hand are getting 2 chances, normally from a hoof, and scoring with one of them.
Bringing in an attacking player, whoever it is, wont make a monkeys chuffs difference until our defensive midfield and full back issues are addressed. Imo
Unfortunately I think we wont see a single player this window anyway, despite Sissoko situation, and we're on our way back to mid tablefor a while because Levy will not spend on players we need when he should or when he needs to.

 

[dagraham]

Disagree.
We already have very very good players in attack. Players better than Zaha imo. We should be wiping the floor with Colchester, Norwich, Brighton, Southampton and bloody Middlesborough with the quality we have up top. Son, Moura, Kane, Alli, Lamela, LoCelso, Ndombele. If you cant get a tune out of that lot then I'm sorry but you're doing something wrong.
I mean, any of them walk straight into all of those teams mentioned starting 11s while not one of their players gets in ours, even with our problems.
It makes no difference who you have in attack if they dont see the ball quick enough (at all).
We have one of the best strikers in the world who is going 40 mins + without getting a touch unless he comes back into his own half to get it!
We are going close to ht before we've had a shot because we hardly get in the oppositions half!
The opposition on the other hand are getting 2 chances, normally from a hoof, and scoring with one of them.
Bringing in an attacking player, whoever it is, wont make a monkeys chuffs difference until our defensive midfield and full back issues are addressed. Imo
Unfortunately I think we wont see a single player this window anyway, despite Sissoko situation, and we're on our way back to mid tablefor a while because Levy will not spend on players we need when he should or when he needs to.

Yeah to be fair I can’t disagree with most of that really.

 

[slartibartfast]

Yeah to be fair I can’t disagree with most of that really.

Well I was bound to get something right at some point, law of probability

 

[BigPlimpton]

Well I was bound to get something right at some point, law of probability

I'll bite. I'm not going to disagree with you that there's no point bringing in a player as expensive as Zaha when there's no midfield and no fullbacks. You're obviously 100% right. But assuming some of those holes could somehow be patched and he ultimately forces a sale from Palace...

...the idea that one could compare Lucas and Coco to Zaha and say "we have plenty of attacking players" is not right for me, let alone the idea that anyone other than Sonny is "better" than Zaha. Lucas has finally gotten his chance and a manager that believed in him and gave him confidence and it's been appalling. He loses possession so cheaply. And his tendency to cut inside at every single opportunity limits his game. For a player with his speed and resume, he's no better than Andros Townsend at playing on the shoulder of the last defender, and that's insane. He kills more counter-attacking chances than any other player in the squad. He has his qualities and a high work rate, creates some nifty footwork and magical goals, particular when he works through the middle and through traffic. Gets fouled a lot. Useful squad player as many have said. But there's no real comparison here. And Coco we all love, but please. It's over. Drown your sorrows in a few shots of reality. With Alli playing in behind HK on a full-time basis now, we have no one to compete and contribute with Sonny as a wide-forward at an elite level. Zaha would be a tremendous upgrade and that's always been true.

The above said, yeah, without a midfield and competent fullback play you could bring in Mbappe and it'd be problematic.

 

[S17PUR]

Disagree.
We already have very very good players in attack. Players better than Zaha imo. We should be wiping the floor with Colchester, Norwich, Brighton, Southampton and bloody Middlesborough with the quality we have up top. Son, Moura, Kane, Alli, Lamela, LoCelso, Ndombele. If you cant get a tune out of that lot then I'm sorry but you're doing something wrong.
I mean, any of them walk straight into all of those teams mentioned starting 11s while not one of their players gets in ours, even with our problems.
It makes no difference who you have in attack if they dont see the ball quick enough (at all).
We have one of the best strikers in the world who is going 40 mins + without getting a touch unless he comes back into his own half to get it!
We are going close to ht before we've had a shot because we hardly get in the oppositions half!
The opposition on the other hand are getting 2 chances, normally from a hoof, and scoring with one of them.
Bringing in an attacking player, whoever it is, wont make a monkeys chuffs difference until our defensive midfield and full back issues are addressed. Imo
Unfortunately I think we wont see a single player this window anyway, despite Sissoko situation, and we're on our way back to mid tablefor a while because Levy will not spend on players we need when he should or when he needs to.

I also agree with pretty much everything, with the exception that I think Zaha is a lot more creative and consistent than Lucas. I think he'd give us an extra dimension against sides that sit back and defend deep against us that we don't currently have and actually help to provide service for Kane.

That said, I agree it's not a priority at all, and given the fee involved we might as well close the thread now.

 

[slartibartfast]

I also agree with pretty much everything, with the exception that I think Zaha is a lot more creative and consistent than Lucas. I think he'd give us an extra dimension against sides that sit back and defend deep against us that we don't currently have and actually help to provide service for Kane.

That said, I agree it's not a priority at all, and given the fee involved we might as well close the thread now.

Yeah, wont happen anyway so mute point lol.

 

[daryl hannah]

Disagree.
We already have very very good players in attack. Players better than Zaha imo. We should be wiping the floor with Colchester, Norwich, Brighton, Southampton and bloody Middlesborough with the quality we have up top. Son, Moura, Kane, Alli, Lamela, LoCelso, Ndombele. If you cant get a tune out of that lot then I'm sorry but you're doing something wrong.
I mean, any of them walk straight into all of those teams mentioned starting 11s while not one of their players gets in ours, even with our problems.
It makes no difference who you have in attack if they dont see the ball quick enough (at all).
We have one of the best strikers in the world who is going 40 mins + without getting a touch unless he comes back into his own half to get it!
We are going close to ht before we've had a shot because we hardly get in the oppositions half!
The opposition on the other hand are getting 2 chances, normally from a hoof, and scoring with one of them.
Bringing in an attacking player, whoever it is, wont make a monkeys chuffs difference until our defensive midfield and full back issues are addressed. Imo
Unfortunately I think we wont see a single player this window anyway, despite Sissoko situation, and we're on our way back to mid tablefor a while because Levy will not spend on players we need when he should or when he needs to.

I agree with this and not a Levy fan. However, playing devil's advocate for a second, if you have key targets in mind and their contracts are up in 6 months' time, you could save yourself £40-50m that would buy you a key player elsewhere given that your budget might only be £150m or whatever it is. It sounds a lot of money but once you start acquiring it gets eaten up and disappears very very quickly.

£150m might only be 3-4 players these days, so waiting for 2 alternative targets on Bosmans in this instance might make sense. And you have to secure those players coming on a free first so that you're not stuck if you don't get them in the summer.

I don't agree that we should only have a budget of £150m (plucked that figure from the air), but if that's anything like what it actually is, it doesn't go far in this day and age when trying to bring in quality.

Playing devil adv. a bit more - let's say your top target is Max Aarons. We have been told he's a massive Chelsea fan, and then City and Utd are also making bits for him. That might be down to the player where he chooses to go.

It is also true that Levy has form for not securing what we need (OUTS, also) so the above needs to be offset with his MO, but maybe, just maybe it'll be worth the wait til summer to secure our top targets. Unfortunately that means that this season will likely be a write-off.

Premium prices and all that...

 

[Sarsipius]

Son, Kane, Zaha with Alli just behind H would be freaking insane.

 

[slartibartfast]

I'll bite. I'm not going to disagree with you that there's no point bringing in a player as expensive as Zaha when there's no midfield and no fullbacks. You're obviously 100% right. But assuming some of those holes could somehow be patched and he ultimately forces a sale from Palace...

...the idea that one could compare Lucas and Coco to Zaha and say "we have plenty of attacking players" is not right for me, let alone the idea that anyone other than Sonny is "better" than Zaha. Lucas has finally gotten his chance and a manager that believed in him and gave him confidence and it's been appalling. He loses possession so cheaply. And his tendency to cut inside at every single opportunity limits his game. For a player with his speed and resume, he's no better than Andros Townsend at playing on the shoulder of the last defender, and that's insane. He kills more counter-attacking chances than any other player in the squad. He has his qualities and a high work rate, creates some nifty footwork and magical goals, particular when he works through the middle and through traffic. Gets fouled a lot. Useful squad player as many have said. But there's no real comparison here. And Coco we all love, but please. It's over. Drown your sorrows in a few shots of reality. With Alli playing in behind HK on a full-time basis now, we have no one to compete and contribute with Sonny as a wide-forward at an elite level. Zaha would be a tremendous upgrade and that's always been true.

The above said, yeah, without a midfield and competent fullback play you could bring in Mbappe and it'd be problematic.

Agree mate. As I posted in another thread, if we get a dm and full backs sorted, great, bring him in and he'll improve us, probably.
But as priorities go that position is waaaayyyyyy down the pecking order.

 

[dagraham]

Agree mate. As I posted in another thread, if we get a dm and full backs sorted, great, bring him in and he'll improve us, probably.
But as priorities go that position is waaaayyyyyy down the pecking order.

As I said before I agree, but given the choice of doing fuck all in Jan or bringing Zaha in I’ll choose the latter.

Anyway, it’s never going to happen unless Jose spikes Levy’s drink so pointless discussing it anyway.

 

[yankspurs]

Can he play DM? Asking for a friend

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Son, Kane, Zaha with Alli just behind H would be freaking insane.

Not much creativity is there. Someone else than Alli and we’re good.

 

[DJS]

Son, Kane, Zaha with Alli just behind H would be freaking insane.

I‘d prefer a proper 4-3-3 with Zaha and Son flanking Kane.

 

[ardiles]

I‘d prefer a proper 4-3-3 with Zaha and Son flanking Kane.

I’d prefer Bale and Son flanking Kane

 

[even steven]

Can he play DM? Asking for a friend

No

 

[DJS]

I’d prefer Bale and Son flanking Kane

Bale is the better player but is getting on a bit and a little injury prone now.

Mind you I’d happily take either!

 

[jay2040]

Disagree.
We already have very very good players in attack. Players better than Zaha imo. We should be wiping the floor with Colchester, Norwich, Brighton, Southampton and bloody Middlesborough with the quality we have up top. Son, Moura, Kane, Alli, Lamela, LoCelso, Ndombele. If you cant get a tune out of that lot then I'm sorry but you're doing something wrong.
I mean, any of them walk straight into all of those teams mentioned starting 11s while not one of their players gets in ours, even with our problems.
It makes no difference who you have in attack if they dont see the ball quick enough (at all).
We have one of the best strikers in the world who is going 40 mins + without getting a touch unless he comes back into his own half to get it!
We are going close to ht before we've had a shot because we hardly get in the oppositions half!
The opposition on the other hand are getting 2 chances, normally from a hoof, and scoring with one of them.
Bringing in an attacking player, whoever it is, wont make a monkeys chuffs difference until our defensive midfield and full back issues are addressed. Imo
Unfortunately I think we wont see a single player this window anyway, despite Sissoko situation, and we're on our way back to mid tablefor a while because Levy will not spend on players we need when he should or when he needs to.

Quality and form have to be taken into consideration!

Same old Levy bashing! Boring!

As I've said before that signing Jose which is not a cheap manger to sign confirms his ambition and whilst he may not sign players you want I'm sure he will do all to keep top 4 a possibility.