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What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

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DaSpurs

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arsenal mania.
Found this Funny considering they just beat Leicester by a own goal by Huth.


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Spurs having one of those season when things getting right for them shooting from 30 yards and it's in ffs

Lol truly rich. All bias aside, that was one of the luckier goals I have ever seen.
 

Spurs 1961

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i wish i'd bought the club for £1 when it was on sale in the early 80's and just burned the shitheap to the ground.
Problem is they were overpriced at £1 so I am sure you wouldn't have wasted hard earned cash so recklessly
 

HobbitSpur

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Love this on RAWK

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Yeah because Spurs haven't had any injuries have they....

and if all teams played at their peak consistently, well that isn't Spurs problem is it. The fact the other teams can't play at their peak consistently means they aren't very good.

Maybe not, in your their eyes, but using that same mentality that surely means that we are still consistently better than them over the past decade!!

God I hope they finish outside the top 4 again!!!!
 
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To be fair to Liverpool fans, we are absolutely shocking whenever we play them so they may actually believe we are rubbish or that the premier league is at a poor standard.
 

Danny1

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To be fair to Liverpool fans, we are absolutely shocking whenever we play them so they may actually believe we are rubbish or that the premier league is at a poor standard.

This is so true, what is that all about when we play that horrible lot! We never give a good account of ourselves!
 

tommo84

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To be fair to Liverpool fans, we are absolutely shocking whenever we play them so they may actually believe we are rubbish or that the premier league is at a poor standard.

The 'it's a poor league' trope has been rolled out by Liverpool fans ever since Benitez' tenure ended. They can't bear to give anyone any credit so they just claim any relative success anyone else achieves is by default. There have been some years that the league has been a poor standard, but to have heard that same logic for the last 8 years is rather tiresome.
 

BringBack_leGin

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The irony of it all is that people say the league standard has dipped because the traditional top clubs don't have it so easy, but the reality is that the top clubs struggle more because us, Everton, Southampton, wba, and even non regulars like Bournemouth, Burnley or Hull are better than in previous years and more able to compete. Ergo, the league standard has improved.
 

rhem

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The irony of it all is that people say the league standard has dipped because the traditional top clubs don't have it so easy, but the reality is that the top clubs struggle more because us, Everton, Southampton, wba, and even non regulars like Bournemouth, Burnley or Hull are better than in previous years and more able to compete. Ergo, the league standard has improved.
I agree with this, but the performance of Premier League clubs in CL and EL does suggest it has gone down.
 
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Graysonti

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Pool fans are funny - just like their loped sided, out of proportion stadium :LOL:

They are becoming more and more irrelevant as the years go by and their major prob is location - it's in Liverpool !
 

SpursDave88

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I agree with this, but the performance of Premiere League clubs in CL and EL does suggest it has gone down.

May suggest....

And what is the comparison?

The Liverpool side that won the CL wasn't that great...it wasn't their best in terms of personnel for sure. The side that won the CL had Djibril Cisse and Vladimir Smicer in it and Jerzy Dudek in goal. The two sides that finished 2nd since then were both better in terms of the players they had but the quality of their sides has varied significantly. Is the current Liverpool side better or worse than the team that won the CL, id say it's similar. That team finished 5th in the league that year...roughly where Liverpool will finish this year.I'd say the current Liverpool side is about inline with the average they have had over the past 10 years or so.

Arsenal...ok they 2002 and 2004 sides were great, but for the majority of more than 10 years...it's been Flamini, Rosicky, Ramsey, Denilson, Diaby, Chamakh, Arshavin. Would you say Sanchez and Ozil are better or worse than those players? Bellerin or Eboue, Cech or Almunia/Szezny/Fabianski/Mannone? I would say the current Arsenal side is better than what they have had on average over the last 10 years or so.

Man Utd...ok they are weaker than they were during the Fergie years and general, expecially versus the great CL winning side.

Chelsea...certainly weaker that the teams that had under Mourinho and Ancellotti, i'd say this is a weaker side than they have generally had over the last decade.

I'd say the overall the league is stronger with the bottom 18 teams all much better than they have been historically and the top two modestly weaker than average over the past ten years, only because neither of the top two are as good as Fergie's most recent great United side (Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Ferdinand, Vidic...)
 

worcestersauce

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I agree with this, but the performance of Premiere League clubs in CL and EL does suggest it has gone down.
Take the best players from Chelsea Man City Liverpool Spurs Everton and eve PSG and that is the pool Arsenal and Manchester United had to fish in, move on a few years swap Chelsea for Arsenal and the same goes for Chelsea and Manchester United, of course they competed in the CL.
The standard of the Premier league is higher without a doubt in my opinion.
The CL gets won by giant teams with no domestic competition which, I think explains the problem for the Premier league clubs, it is also why I want Monaco to win it this year.
 

Shadydan

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I agree with this, but the performance of Premiere League clubs in CL and EL does suggest it has gone down.

Yes because the rest of the league has improved and the top teams have been stagnating/standing still for a long time whilst the others have been playing catch up.

You'll see a marked improvement from the top team soon though, the manager and player recruitment recently has improved.
 

Marty

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Add the fact the Premier league do fuck all to assist our teams in Europe with fixtures, unlike most other countries.
I hoped the Friday night games would be a push to assist the teams that were to play Tuesdays in the CL, but I don't think that happened once.

The PL and broadcasters need to sort this out.
 

tommo84

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I agree with this, but the performance of Premiere League clubs in CL and EL does suggest it has gone down.

The flaw to that argument is that it uses an assumption that the standard of Europe's tops teams has remained stagnant since 2008. It hasn't. Real Madrid have sorted their shit out and become more consistent since Ronaldo arrived, Atletico have come to the table, Dortmund have grown and established themselves as the second power in Germany, PSG had their few years of throwing huge sums of money at players (including Ibrahimovic and Luiz - two of the best players in the EPL this year) and Bayern and Juve have returned to powerhouse status after a period of transition. Of the best 7 or 8 teams outside of the EPL, only Barcelona would argue they were nearly as good in 2005-2008 than they are now.
 
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