Were the transfer deadline day bids a PR stunt?

[talkshowhost86]

How many chairman do you see sanctioning numerous massive bids in the dying hours of the January transfer window, which is notoriously difficult for doing business particularly with bigger deals.

I'm not saying it was a publicity stunt per se, but it was a bit half hearted in my opinion given that he had a whole four weeks to get this approval from the board...why would you leave it to the last second if you had made such a big decison.

I'm a massive Levy fan, but the guy wont get it right every time - Jesus.

We're not saying he got it right. I agree that leaving it that late was daft and was as a result of him and Harry (attribute the blame as you will) dithering and not deciding their targets earlier.

But the original question in this post was whether it was just a PR stunt. Personally I think it's ridiculous to suggest that.

 

[Mr Pink]

Probably because on the last day of the window we knew we needed someone, anyone decent. Whereas at the start of the window, we can relax abit, from Daniel Levys view, he sees it as 3 months negotiating. He doesn't have to be gung ho until maybe mid August. He can asess the situation, see if any new targets are around, maybe get someone in a bit cheaper. There are lots of reasons why we havent spent the cash yet.

You dont do panic buys for 35 million, they're thought about or at least they should be. I mean obviously he was closely watched and monitored but in terms of pulling off a transfer of that magnitude for a Club like us, its strange to think we were going to chuck 35 million quid at the last minute - smashing our transfer record.

Furthermore its very likely we would of bid again this summer had their been serious interest in January. I know we wont know either way but its a fair point to mention.

 

[mattyspurs]

How many chairman do you see sanctioning numerous massive bids in the dying hours of the January transfer window, which is notoriously difficult for doing business particularly with bigger deals.

I'm not saying it was a publicity stunt per se, but it was a bit half hearted in my opinion given that he had a whole four weeks to get this approval from the board...why would you leave it to the last second if you had made such a big decison.

I'm a massive Levy fan, but the guy wont get it right every time - Jesus.

We're not saying he got it right. I agree that leaving it that late was daft and was as a result of him and Harry (attribute the blame as you will) dithering and not deciding their targets earlier.

But the original question in this post was whether it was just a PR stunt. Personally I think it's ridiculous to suggest that.

TSH has beaten me to the post Mr Pink.

Daniel Levy got it wrong, but it certainly wasn't a PR stunt in my opinion, it just couldn't have been one.

 

[pablo73]

How many chairman do you see sanctioning numerous massive bids in the dying hours of the January transfer window, which is notoriously difficult for doing business particularly with bigger deals.

I'm not saying it was a publicity stunt per se, but it was a bit half hearted in my opinion given that he had a whole four weeks to get this approval from the board...why would you leave it to the last second if you had made such a big decison.

I'm a massive Levy fan, but the guy wont get it right every time - Jesus.

Exactly. I'm also a fan of Levy's but the guy should not be completely immune to criticism. At best it was a half hearted, fairly lame attempt to finally buy a decent striker and at worst it was a cynical PR stunt. Either way, Levy doesn't come out of it smelling of roses.

 

[mattyspurs]

You dont do panic buys for 35 million, they're thought about or at least they should be. I mean obviously he was closely watched and monitored but in terms of pulling off a transfer of that magnitude for a Club like us, its strange to think we were going to chuck 35 million quid at the last minute - smashing our transfer record.

Furthermore its very likely we would of bid again this summer had their been serious interest in January. I know we wont know either way but its a fair point to mention.

It would have been a panic buy just for the fact the he knew that he had fucked up by not acting earlier in the window. It wouldn't have been a panic buy in terms of a target, because the ones he went for, Aguero, Rossi and Llorente were all on the list throughout the window.

Going to your last paragraph, the reason in my opinion that we havent gone straight back in with a big offer again, is in the post you have quoted.

 

[Mr Pink]

We're not saying he got it right. I agree that leaving it that late was daft and was as a result of him and Harry (attribute the blame as you will) dithering and not deciding their targets earlier.

But the original question in this post was whether it was just a PR stunt. Personally I think it's ridiculous to suggest that.

No I dont think it was a pure publicity stunt, perhaps it was more impulsive but the timing of it all suggests to me that it was a half hearted attempt to pull in a big name at the last minute.

What I mean is had we pulled it off it might of even surprised Levy and Co...had they been really sure about these moves I suspect they would of been done earlier in the window, or at least the bids would of been placed much earlier with the intention to get the best fee as the window was drawing to a close and the other Clubs involved could find replacements etc..

Just think the time frame involved was very prohibitive to any of these deals becoming a reality.

 

[brasil_spur]

Kyle Naughton £4m
Kyle Walker £4m
Peter Crouch £9m
Sebastien Bassong £8m
Niko Kranjcar £2.5m
Younes Kaboul £5m
Sandro £6m
William Gallas £0
Rafael Van Der Vaart £8m
Steven Pienaar £3m
Giuseppe Rossi £35m
Brad Friedel £0

What's most annoying about this is if you go back the previous season to 2008/2009 our signings look like this:

Modric - £16m
Gomes - £10m
Bentley - £16m
Pav - £12m
Defoe - £12m
Palacios - £14m
Keane - £12m

That's an outlay of around £92m, then when you add in some of the other buys like Corluka, GDS etc... we must have spent easily £100m that season on players.

 

[Samson]

What's most annoying about this is if you go back the previous season to 2008/2009 our signings look like this:

Modric - £16m
Gomes - £10m
Bentley - £16m
Pav - £12m
Defoe - £12m
Palacios - £14m
Keane - £12m

That's an outlay of around £92m, then when you add in some of the other buys like Corluka, GDS etc... we must have spent easily £100m that season on players.

Panic buying in a still rising market. Now if we don't get decent prices for our outgoings and reduce the squad size, we've got no money, or not so much as would support splashing out.

 

[OpenHeartZoo]

What's most annoying about this is if you go back the previous season to 2008/2009 our signings look like this:

Modric - £16m
Gomes - £10m
Bentley - £16m
Pav - £12m
Defoe - £12m
Palacios - £14m
Keane - £12m

That's an outlay of around £92m, then when you add in some of the other buys like Corluka, GDS etc... we must have spent easily £100m that season on players.

On one hand it's annoying, but on the other it shows that splashing the cash doesn't always get you the most value. I wouldn't turn my nose up at Rossi, but more than anything I want us to pick a system and then identify players that fit that system and complement the players we already have. I refuse to believe that we need to spend £30m to find a player in world football who can link up with VdV at least as well as Crouch did and score at least as many goals as Pav did. That player doesn't even need to be a worldie, just someone with a more rounded game than our current options who can lead the line effectively on their own.

Arsenal have been without a world class striker for years (RVP is nearly always injured) and yes it's one of the reasons they haven't nailed the title, but it's been enough to keep them in the Champions League.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Just read something very interesting. It's Kia Joorabchian speaking about Mad Dog Tevez's proposed move to Corinthians and I thought it was somewhat relevant to this thread.

"To say that Corinthians could not provide guarantees for the money is nonsense," he said. "Firstly, they are the biggest club in Brazil. Secondly, any club that makes an offer and cannot pay will get suspended by Fifa and have points deducted."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14233228.stm

 

[$hoguN]

If anyone believes that they were; they are basically the type of fucking idiot who sits under a bridge in a tin foil hat.

If we made these bids to clubs and they have been confirmed (by us or them) than yes we 100% we willing to spend that cash on the players we were bidding for. Although bids not confirmed by either club could just have been Balagaue lying which wouldn't be a first.

 

[scoobydoo]

Surely even if a bid was accepted for Rossi, we could have just offered him 50k a week and it would have broken down because we couldn't agree personal terms.

Those saying that this couldn't have happened because Levy wouldn't gamble with the money are only looking at half the story

 

[$hoguN]

Surely even if a bid was accepted for Rossi, we could have just offered him 50k a week and it would have broken down because we couldn't agree personal terms.

Those saying that this couldn't have happened because Levy wouldn't gamble with the money are only looking at half the story

No those people are looking at the whole story. It's other people who are insuating that we would bid that much money and then intentionally torpedo our own bid, who are inventing the rest of the story

 

[scoobydoo]

No those people are looking at the whole story. It's other people who are insuating that we would bid that much money and then intentionally torpedo our own bid, who are inventing the rest of the story

Why then are we not remotely interested in Rossi in this window?

 

[NEVILLEB]

Where has all the money gone?

We seem to only spend money when we are low in the league. Everytime we get near the top 4 we stop spending..

Where has the champions league money gone???

 

[steventhfc]

You sound like a fucking Pompey fan

"Where's all our money gone!"

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Why then are we not remotely interested in Rossi in this window?

What do you mean we're not remotely interested in him?

Harry Redknapp has urged Tottenham to dig deep in order to lure Giuseppe Rossi to White Hart Lane.

Redknapp confirmed that Spurs almost signed the Villarreal striker last summer and they were also linked with a January swoop for the former Manchester United man.

Barcelona have since lined up a move for the 24-year-old Italian after he finished the season with 32 goals in all competitions, only for it to fall through.

Spurs may now renew their interest in Rossi with Redknapp remaining a big fan of the American-born forward.

"Rossi's top drawer," he told Sky Sports News. "He's a clever player.

"He gets it into feet, he holds the ball up, he scores goals, and he's the Italy centre-forward now.

Long-term interest

"We tried to get him last year and I think the fee was £18million. That looks cheap now but he was a player we nearly had last year."

It could now cost double that for Spurs to land Rossi as he signed a contract in January until 2016.

But Redknapp is hoping Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is willing to sanction such a move.

"That's up to the club and Daniel and everybody," he added. "But if you're going to buy top players they cost top money - they're not going to be cheap.

"They cost top wages, they cost big transfer fees - you need miracles if they're going to picking up people for bargains, and they become worth mega money.

"It's difficult to do that because everybody's looking for top strikers. They are at a premium, they're difficult to find."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_7020924,00.html

 

[bubble07]

What's most annoying about this is if you go back the previous season to 2008/2009 our signings look like this:

Modric - £16m
Gomes - £10m
Bentley - £16m
Pav - £12m
Defoe - £12m
Palacios - £14m
Keane - £12m

That's an outlay of around £92m, then when you add in some of the other buys like Corluka, GDS etc... we must have spent easily £100m that season on players.

True but apart from Modric and Gomes none of them are first choice.

 

[Krafty]

I'm not fully convinced we did put in 'those bids'. Especially with regards to Aguero, their chairman or majority shareholder runs his mouth off at every opportunity just to gain favour with the fans. He did the same when he rejected a bid from Real Madrid, who promptly said they had never put in an offer!

I think there is money there, if we want it. It had to be the right player, I'm sure Levy would be concerned about sell on value just in case the player did quite work out for us or something, but I think any interest or bids we did make were hyped up (by SSN in the main), as usual.

 

[brett.spurs]

- We bid £30m-£35m in January for Rossi

- He's seemingly on his way to Juve for £25m-£30m

- Where are we?