Well said Micky Hazard

[Hazardousman]

Also, I have to laugh at people who think that the media and the managers/players didn't impact us at all and it was just us "Bottling it."

No team in Premier League history during a title run in has had to play after an opponent running for the title 3 times in a row, that should tell you something alone, sky essentially make the fixtures.

 

[dudu]

Worked for Leicester.

Their story is unrivaled. They arent known as the perennial nearly men and havent had teams upon teams hoping they fail year in year out, laughing and pointing when they do.

They have never had to "mind the gap" or have managers give half time talks like "hey, its only Leicester"

Our stories arent comparable.

 

[Lou3000]

I don't know how any Chelsea fan can ever take any pride in their club. That group went out and played harder than they have all season because they wanted another club to win the league. Those plastics took a free kick in a scoring position in the last minutes of extra time and kicked it to the corner. At home. Then celebrated like they'd won the league themselves. What about going out and playing hard for your club?

What a joke.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Tell Newcastle we want Sunderland to stay up , they would go mad .unbelievable we should as a club never forget

Brilliant. Big Sam said they will not do a Spurs when playing chelscum.. So let us do a chelscum while playing the barcodes then.. Make sense?

 

[muppetman]

A mate of mine is a Man U fan and he said it's what happens when you are the best team in the league. Everyone else raises their game and wants to beat you.

Take it as a compliment. As for the press we've had loads of positive stuff about us the last few weeks.

 

[Pauleta01]

The London derby thing has a big factor on this. Both at the Chelsea and West Ham games this season I have never seen such ferocity in the opposition fans before (and I have been going to Spurs since 1987). West Ham was like their cup final and their fans were playing spoons and having a right old knees up on Green street after the game and Chelsea might as well got an open top bus and given John Terry a Leicester kit after a 2-2 draw! The rage and haterid in the air on Monday was nearly up there with when Campbell came back to the lane. Leicester have not had to face that intensity week in week out!

The only thing I can say is that I honestly believe I dislike Chelsea more than Arsenal, in fact there it is I said it, I despise them more than any other team on the planet.

 

[StartingPrice]

I'm really fed up of this whiney bollocks.

We had Chelsea by the bollocks. They weren't even that good the other night. We fucked it away by losing our heads.

We had the chance to take this title into our own hands and we let West Ham turn us over and couldn't hold a lead against ten man Arsenal.

Playing after Leicester could work both ways. depending on what they did, the bottom line is that both teams knew each week they had to keep winning.

This has been a great season, the best for 30 years. We had our chances, we are responsible for not taking them. Lets not end the season blubbing about bullshit conspiracies or players of our fiercest rivals saying exactly what we know they were thinking anyway.

Really, BC, that's just obfuscation.

The fact that we only had a slither of a chance going into the Chelsea game, for instance, has no bearing on the behaviour of the Chelsea players (and any complaints thereof). The fact that our players may have finally lost their composure during that game doesn't actually justify the behaviour of the Chelsea players prior to and during that match.

Just for the record, I have said several times in several threads that I am not buying the conspiracy, I don't automatically believe Chelsea would have rolled over for Leicester (I am not so sure they would have been flying into challenges and practicing the dark arts on them like they did with us, though). And it did show the immaturity of our group that they did finally succumb.

But the fact remains that many, many people, not just to do with Spurs, believe the type of things rival managers and players, who had to play either one or both of the protagonists in the title run-in, were saying pretty much brings the game into disrepute. Should we not discuss that because we could have been going into the Chelsea game in a better position if we had performed with greater efficiency and maturity in earlier games (or just been a little more fortunate - like when we hit the post three times against West Brom)? Should we not discuss it because under a huge amount of pressure and gamesmanship from Chelsea our lads may have handled the pressure better if they had been more mature?

These are the facts:
The Swansea manager said he wanted Leicester to win the title for his friend Ranieri before he played them, then sent out a team without any strikers, who played powder-puff and basically passed a Leicester player the ball for their first goal - and yet were capable of beating Liverpool the next week.
The West Brom Manager said he wanted Leicester to win the title before they played us. His team was pathetic against the Goons - leaving themselves open to the accusation that they may have been saving themselves for the game against us. Played themselves into the ground, including a bit of dirt and winding up, to try to get a result against us. And then a few days later they were back to being feeble against West Ham.
And the manager and several of the players of Chelsea stated publicly, including working as pundits on some of the country's most popular football shows, that they wanted Leicester to win the league and desperately wanted to stop us. They then played far better than they have all season (which should, really, be an issue for their own fans to take up - if they had wits), went into balls they weren't favourites for with extreme intensity, like they were prepared to injure our players to win, surrounded the ref constantly and manhandled him, moaned and whinged about everything, and put in several digs, elbows, lean ins with head and chest, mouthed off abuse at our players and management team during and after the game, and even, in the case of Fabregas resorted to flicking them in the genitals.
It doesn't matter if there was no conspiracy and it doesn't matter if they only voiced what we all knew they were thinking. They did open their mouths and that is the point - it makes their actions seem far more suspicion and allows anyone who wants to argue that they have behaved in an ungentlemanly way with actual, verifiable statements rather than suspicions of what they were thinking. Would you say it was alright for someone to threaten to murder someone else and no action should be taken because we all knew he was thinking it anyway?
And you think we should not mention it, and if we do it's moaning and whinging? Okay.

Did you read the thread? In the very first post Shanks had already said that we all believed Leicester would almost likely get the point they needed even if we won on Monday. And the example has already been given if we said we wanted Newcastle to stay up for our friend FSW and then we played pathetically. We may have just been playing pathetically because the players are drained and we already had the one point we need to finish second - but by saying it opens an association between the saying we want Newcastle to stay up and the playing feebly. Even if we really were just drained and had nothing to play for.

Oh, and by the way, most everyone is also saying it has been a brilliant season, and several are also saying we can use this to our advantage if Poch builds a siege mentality. But none of that actually makes these voiced opinions right or anything other than what they were, which is bringing the game into disrepute. No manager or player should ever voice a preference for one team over another while still having to play one or both protagonist in an undecided issue. That's a stand alone point related to what these managers and players said and how they and their team subsequently performed (or not) and independent of what the real cause of that performance might have been.

Do you think it would be okay if our players said they wanted Newcastle to stay up for their friend Andros and because they really don;t like Sunderland , and then performed pathetically (no matter the cause of the performance)?

 

[dondo]

A lot of this media bullshit came from lineker imo and it makes me very sad to see his interview the other night saying he was cheering Chelsea on.
One of the main reasons I support Spurs is because of lineker and Gazza and for him to say what he did the other night and the stance he took when it became a 2 horse race is very disappointing and is no longer a Spurs legend in my eyes and his name should be stripped from our hall of fame

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

A lot of this media bullshit came from lineker imo and it makes me very sad to see his interview the other night saying he was cheering Chelsea on.
One of the main reasons I support Spurs is because of lineker and Gazza and for him to say what he did the other night and the stance he took when it became a 2 horse race is very disappointing and is no longer a Spurs legend in my eyes and his name should be stripped from our hall of fame

Lineker .....SPURS.....legend. What does that make Ledders/Chivers/Peters/Jennings/Mabbutt/Perryman/Ossie/Villa/Hoddle/Greavsie/Jones? I could go on. He is just a bit part player in our history. Not his problem. Just the way it is. If I was him and a Leicester City fan from my young years I would be just like him. As would the rest of us. Just saying Legend?

 

[dondo]

Lineker .....SPURS.....legend. What does that make Ledders/Chivers/Peters/Jennings/Mabbutt/Perryman/Ossie/Villa/Hoddle/Greavsie/Jones? I could go on. He is just a bit part player in our history. Not his problem. Just the way it is. If I was him and a Leicester City fan from my young years I would be just like him. As would the rest of us. Just saying Legend?

Maybe but I wouldn't say it on national TV and insult all the fans that used to worship me

 

[rpate1]

pulis rested his main players against arsenal and all ready for the spurs clash.
ref's were backing them as well.

but in the end we never got to that number one slot and was never for us to lose. unlike the scum.

 

[deluded-yid]

Tell Newcastle we want Sunderland to stay up , they would go mad .unbelievable we should as a club never forget

Fuck Sunderland, Kaboul committed a very fortunate or unfortunate (depending on which way you want to look at it) error which allowed Steptoe to go through on goal for the 1st.
I also remember they had a throw in, (possibly Yedlin, not sure) but waited for a Leicester player to finish tying his laces before taking it.
So yeah Leicester deserved the title (especially with all the help they had from the officials, media, biased managers and players in the last few weeks).
As long as we get the 3pts needed to confirm 2nd against Southampton, then I won't give a shit if we play fringe players against Newcastle.

*I'm not bitter in the slightest...... Not*

 

[TheHood]

Does he really think that players and managers would act against their own interests and disadvantage themselves financially to purely benefit an unlreated club? I mean seriously come on. Anyone in the game is going speak favourably about the Leciester situation, that is inveitable but that does not automatically translate into various clubs actively seeking to aide that outcome, as if there was seemingly some sort of controlled effort to do this. We didn't win the title because at a number of key moments in the season the club fell short, it really is as simple as that. There are many lessons to learnt from last season, it's important that club and the supporters reflect on that and not try to outsource the blame on others, moreso when that amounts to conspiracy nonsense such as this.

 

[deluded-yid]

@TheHood
I'm sure it's rumoured the Swansea manager is gone at the end of the season.
Pulis, doesn't give a shit. Proved that when he walked away from Palace.
Hiddink is an interim manager, so league position don't matter.

 

[coys18]

Does he really think that players and managers would act against their own interests and disadvantage themselves financially to purely benefit an unlreated club? I mean seriously come on. Anyone in the game is going speak favourably about the Leciester situation, that is inveitable but that does not automatically translate into various clubs actively seeking to aide that outcome, as if there was seemingly some sort of controlled effort to do this. We didn't win the title because at a number of key moments in the season the club fell short, it really is as simple as that. There are many lessons to learnt from last season, it's important that club and the supporters reflect on that and not try to outsource the blame on others, moreso when that amounts to conspiracy nonsense such as this.

But Chelsea did disadvantage themselves. The key aspect of their behaviour is not that they tried extra hard but that they did not try to win the game. A team who had come back from 2 down and had all the momentum against a team who had lost their discipline would be looking for all 3 points. Chelsea however were not interested in doing so, they just wanted to stop us getting all 3. Dribbling into corners to protect a point is fine when you need that point in a battle for relegation or for a CL spot but not to protect mid table obscurity. In their haste to do this they didn't realise that by giving us this point they had effectively condemned one of Arsenal and Man City to 4th place and having to play a CL qualifier. The result was not just about us and Leicester. This is why the League/FA need to clamp down on this - its rather fortunate for the long term health of the game that Leicester don't need a result at Chelsea

 

[TheHood]

But Chelsea did disadvantage themselves. The key aspect of their behaviour is not that they tried extra hard but that they did not try to win the game. A team who had come back from 2 down and had all the momentum against a team who had lost their discipline would be looking for all 3 points. Chelsea however were not interested in doing so, they just wanted to stop us getting all 3. Dribbling into corners to protect a point is fine when you need that point in a battle for relegation or for a CL spot but not to protect mid table obscurity. In their haste to do this they didn't realise that by giving us this point they had effectively condemned one of Arsenal and Man City to 4th place and having to play a CL qualifier. The result was not just about us and Leicester. This is why the League/FA need to clamp down on this - its rather fortunate for the long term health of the game that Leicester don't need a result at Chelsea

Chelsea were playing their neighbours, they were doing what their supporters wanted to see (look at their supporters actions during the game)and no doubt we would pander in the exact same in that position. That doesn't extend beyond anything other than that.

 

[TheHood]

@TheHood
I'm sure it's rumoured the Swansea manager is gone at the end of the season.
Pulis, doesn't give a shit. Proved that when he walked away from Palace.
Hiddink is an interim manager, so league position don't matter.

And?

 

[Hoddtastic72]

I still remember Pardews stupid comment a couple of years ago when we needed them to get something from Arsenal on the final day to get champions league. On that basis alone I want to relegate the pricks.

He's crystal palace manager now. Surely you would rather they went down at some point rather than Newcastle, who seem to be a decent enough bunch, with decent supporters

 

[Hoddtastic72]

Brilliant. Big Sam said they will not do a Spurs when playing chelscum.. So let us do a chelscum while playing the barcodes then.. Make sense?

Um...no

 

[dagraham]

A lot of this media bullshit came from lineker imo and it makes me very sad to see his interview the other night saying he was cheering Chelsea on.
One of the main reasons I support Spurs is because of lineker and Gazza and for him to say what he did the other night and the stance he took when it became a 2 horse race is very disappointing and is no longer a Spurs legend in my eyes and his name should be stripped from our hall of fame

Anyone who has seen Gary Lineker on TV and in the media generally can have no doubt that he holds Spurs in high regard.

However, he grew up a Leicester fan, played for them and I believe his sons support them. Why wouldn't he be desperately hoping his boyhood team achieve what was always thought an impossible dream?