Viktor Fischer

[Dharmabum]

Spurs in Fischer swoop Tottenham Hotspur

Tottenham Hotspur are reportedly lining up a summer transfer move for highly-rated Ajax winger Viktor Fischer. Spurs in Fischer swoop The North London club are rumoured to be planning a huge rebuild of the squad following an inconsistent season in the Premier League where they are looking likely to miss out on Champions League football. Several of the big-money signings that were brought in at the start of the campaign have failed to match their price tag, with the likes of Nacer Chadli, Erik Lamela, Etienne Capoue, Vlad Chiriches and Roberto Soldado struggling to settle into life in England. The latter has scored just six goals in almost 30 appearances for the club, with the rest unable to cement a regular starting place in the Tottenham line-up. With several players likely to be shipped out, the English outfit are reportedly interested in bringing in youngster Fischer from Dutch giants Ajax. The 19-year-old is highly regarded at the Amsterdam club and has had another good season, putting in a number of brilliant performances which have seen him score seven goals from the flank. A deal could be in doubt due to the speculation regarding current manager Tim Sherwood's future, the former midfielder has been tipped to be replaced at the end of the season, so it remains to be seen whether the club will still make a move for Fischer if the head coach leaves.

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[Barry Mead]

Yeah I think both the source and the last line suggest it's BS, very promising player though and I imagine if De Boer was coming he would be thinking seriously about trying to bring him with him (and Klaassen for that matter)

 

[DaSpurs]

Yeah I think both the source and the last line suggest it's BS, very promising player though and I imagine if De Boer was coming he would be thinking seriously about trying to bring him with him (and Klaassen for that matter)

Yeah I agree that de Boer could look for such acquisitions, but I think we could do better for the LW for next year than Fischer and what need would we have for Klaassen given having Eriksen and Holtby?

 

[Dharmabum]

Yeah I think both the source and the last line suggest it's BS, very promising player though and I imagine if De Boer was coming he would be thinking seriously about trying to bring him with him (and Klaassen for that matter)

Yes, the source doesn't look reliable at all but I am sure Spurs are having a close look at Fischer - him being Danish and seeing how well Eriksen have settled in could well be a way to tempt him over to WHL. Well, in the end it's money that count anyway I would guess.

 

[Barry Mead]

Yeah I agree that de Boer could look for such acquisitions, but I think we could do better for the LW for next year than Fischer and what need would we have for Klaassen given having Eriksen and Holtby?

I'm sure we can get better that Fischer for left wing although that's mainly because I think he will develop better staying at Ajax and developing his game in familiar surroundings. I think he has great potential

Personally I want Iker Muniain as a left sided attacker, he may not be getting enough goals yet at this stage but I think we need to increase the depth of character in the team with players with drive, desire and passion and Muniain has that by the bucketload. Him on the left and Jordy Clasie in midfield and we have two players who will run through walls for the team

Now why Klaassen well it's very simple really, an am who looks just as capable as a striker and who has the physical attributes as well as the eye and the sharpness to get goals and I believe those strengths will allow him to do so in a more intense league like the PL.

I think we will be looking to play primarily a lone striker next season and that in itself means you are going to need other players who can take on some of the scoring responsibility, then you have the issue of keeping strikers happy. How many decent strikers could we expect to keep happy when we play a lone striker? Two at best but assuming we make Europa that's stretching things, so what's the options? A player like Kane who has done well in a couple of games without really convincing that he's ready to be a regular starter. He'll no doubt be happy to continue on the periphery and get a few games, but in many ways both he and the club would benefit if he can get a loan to a lower PL team where he can play far more regularly and gain experience.
So we get a quality young player like Klaassen who looks capable of stepping up and being both a striker option and an am option.
Sorry but I still remain unconvinced by Holtby, he's a hard worker but I haven't seen any consistency of quality even in a cm role much less an am role and he's certainly not going to be able to fill a striker role if needed. No for me, I'd rather have Klaassen who looks to have the qualities to play either am or striker. Maybe a gamble of course but to me a very good gamble given what I see as our needs

 

[ardiles&villa]

Hes class. Will be a worldy, no doubt about it..

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

I'm sure we can get better that Fischer for left wing although that's mainly because I think he will develop better staying at Ajax and developing his game in familiar surroundings. I think he has great potential

Personally I want Iker Muniain as a left sided attacker, he may not be getting enough goals yet at this stage but I think we need to increase the depth of character in the team with players with drive, desire and passion and Muniain has that by the bucketload. Him on the left and Jordy Clasie in midfield and we have two players who will run through walls for the team

Now why Klaassen well it's very simple really, an am who looks just as capable as a striker and who has the physical attributes as well as the eye and the sharpness to get goals and I believe those strengths will allow him to do so in a more intense league like the PL.

I think we will be looking to play primarily a lone striker next season and that in itself means you are going to need other players who can take on some of the scoring responsibility, then you have the issue of keeping strikers happy. How many decent strikers could we expect to keep happy when we play a lone striker? Two at best but assuming we make Europa that's stretching things, so what's the options? A player like Kane who has done well in a couple of games without really convincing that he's ready to be a regular starter. He'll no doubt be happy to continue on the periphery and get a few games, but in many ways both he and the club would benefit if he can get a loan to a lower PL team where he can play far more regularly and gain experience.
So we get a quality young player like Klaassen who looks capable of stepping up and being both a striker option and an am option.
Sorry but I still remain unconvinced by Holtby, he's a hard worker but I haven't seen any consistency of quality even in a cm role much less an am role and he's certainly not going to be able to fill a striker role if needed. No for me, I'd rather have Klaassen who looks to have the qualities to play either am or striker. Maybe a gamble of course but to me a very good gamble given what I see as our needs

So we leave him at Ajax to develop, then someone else signs him, how would that benefit Spurs? Our transfer philosophy should be to sign these players that other teams are dithering over because their 'not quite ready', bit like we did with Eriksen.

 

[DaSpurs]

So we leave him at Ajax to develop, then someone else signs him, how would that benefit Spurs? Our transfer philosophy should be to sign these players that other teams are dithering over because their 'not quite ready', bit like we did with Eriksen.

While I agree that we should look for a few younger guys on the verge of a massive upswing in potential, the differing expectations must be taken into consideration. Fischer certainly isn't a bad prospect for the future, but if we want to get back into top four contention next season we'll need to look for someone who is likely to provide more immediate impact.

Also, Eriksen wasn't quite as raw when we picked him up. Full Danish international at the age of 18, youngest player at the last World Cup, senior player at Ajax for four years, and two years of CL experience in which he scored on the likes of Manchester City made him a bit more renowned. He was young, but brought in to slot right into the starting eleven. But I am glad you reference him, as he is precisely the level of player I think we should be pursuing at the moment.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

While I agree that we should look for a few younger guys on the verge of a massive upswing in potential, the differing expectations must be taken into consideration. Fischer certainly isn't a bad prospect for the future, but if we want to get back into top four contention next season we'll need to look for someone who is likely to provide more immediate impact.

Also, Eriksen wasn't quite as raw when we picked him up. Full Danish international at the age of 18, youngest player at the last World Cup, senior player at Ajax for four years, and two years of CL experience in which he scored on the likes of Manchester City made him a bit more renowned. He was young, but brought in to slot right into the starting eleven. But I am glad you reference him, as he is precisely the level of player I think we should be pursuing at the moment.

Difference is, this summer we haven't got 80m to spend. We'll be lucky to get one big signing and a couple of youngsters.

 

[Barry Mead]

So we leave him at Ajax to develop, then someone else signs him, how would that benefit Spurs? Our transfer philosophy should be to sign these players that other teams are dithering over because their 'not quite ready', bit like we did with Eriksen.

If we signed Muniain you wouldn't need Fischer and I believe Muniain is far better ready for the PL than Fischer. If you want the club to be another Chavs signing player after player that they have to loan out because they already have three players competing for each place then you have a point. If you want to say sell Townsend and Chadli to free up spaces then you have a point, but realistically we need to buy one left side attacker that can come into the team and hopefully deliver from fairly early. I would say Muniain would be the better fit to make a quicker impact, a better fit to add some character and desire.
Now of course you could buy both, I like Fischer and would have no issue with that save that imo we have other areas that need to be addressed with players of regular first team standard-lb, rb, cb, playmaker, striker. If the extra money doesn't impact our ability to fill those positions well then it's fine, but sometimes you have to decide one player or another and for that matter if the need is immediate or we are looking for a player who can cover and develop gradually so bought with more an eye for the future than the more immediate.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

If we signed Muniain you wouldn't need Fischer and I believe Muniain is far better ready for the PL than Fischer. If you want the club to be another Chavs signing player after player that they have to loan out because they already have three players competing for each place then you have a point. If you want to say sell Townsend and Chadli to free up spaces then you have a point, but realistically we need to buy one left side attacker that can come into the team and hopefully deliver from fairly early. I would say Muniain would be the better fit to make a quicker impact, a better fit to add some character and desire.
Now of course you could buy both, I like Fischer and would have no issue with that save that imo we have other areas that need to be addressed with players of regular first team standard-lb, rb, cb, playmaker, striker. If the extra money doesn't impact our ability to fill those positions well then it's fine, but sometimes you have to decide one player or another and for that matter if the need is immediate or we are looking for a player who can cover and develop gradually so bought with more an eye for the future than the more immediate.

I'd prefer Muniain too, but I'm just being realistic about things for this summer. I sense some of you guys need to lower expectations in terms of spending too, or suffer a very frustrating window.

 

[Barry Mead]

Difference is, this summer we haven't got 80m to spend. We'll be lucky to get one big signing and a couple of youngsters.

Last summer we simply reinvested from sales, I doubt it will be any different this summer. There is already a fear that the likes of Veronghen, Lloris and Paulinho want out, if they do there's around £60 mill
But if they stay there will still be players like Rose, Livermore, Naughton, Benny, Dembele, Kaboul, Holtby, Ade and Siggy that could be sold. Maybe not the biggest monies fee wise but PL experienced, some at least seemingly in demand which should fetch around £50 mill and if only one of the above three were sold that would push the incoming fees to around £70 mill

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Last summer we simply reinvested from sales, I doubt it will be any different this summer. There is already a fear that the likes of Veronghen, Lloris and Paulinho want out, if they do there's around £60 mill
But if they stay there will still be players like Rose, Livermore, Naughton, Benny, Dembele, Kaboul, Holtby, Ade and Siggy that could be sold. Maybe not the biggest monies fee wise but PL experienced, some at least seemingly in demand which should fetch around £50 mill and if only one of the above three were sold that would push the incoming fees to around £70 mill

Pointless talking about possible outgoings though, in truth we don't know whats going to happen. Also, lets say we sell Lloris, we would need to buy a keeper not a LWF. So I prefer to discuss each individual transfer rumour on its individual merits, otherwise we begin to stray into the realms of pure fantasy.

 

[Barry Mead]

I'd prefer Muniain too, but I'm just being realistic about things for this summer. I sense some of you guys need to lower expectations in terms of spending too, or suffer a very frustrating window.

See my other post, we have a number of players that no doubt we will want to sell and maybe one or two we may not but who want out, that should raise a lot of money.
That aside allowing that we haven't net spent over the last two seasons at a time when the club received a large increase in TV revenue and given that we have had a disappointing year Levy and Lewis may feel they want to spend a bit to ensure the team don't slip too far away from being CL contenders

 

[Barry Mead]

Pointless talking about possible outgoings though, in truth we don't know whats going to happen. Also, lets say we sell Lloris, we would need to buy a keeper not a LWF. So I prefer to discuss each individual transfer rumour on its individual merits, otherwise we begin to stray into the realms of pure fantasy.

Well it's then pretty pointless discussing any transfers because how can you discus an individual buy when you don't have any idea what money you have?
Of course if we sell certain players we will have to replace them, others we won't need to as we have a few excess. But it doesn't mean you spend like for like and that's why if you are going to talk about transfers you have to consider the bigger picture
Different coaches may come in with different plans and see different needs and evaluate players differently but at the end of the day players will be sold, some because we want to sell them some because the players want to leave.
With every name that's linked it's just as much fantasy that the new coach will want them and then if they do we will actually get them, so it's all fantasy however you approach it, if it's pointless talking about outgoings then it's just as equally pointless talking about incomings. Invariably if you talk about possible incoming players you then question can you afford them and can you get them which leads to possible outgoings and possible additional funds.
I'm not really sure how you can dismiss one side of the discussion as pure fantasy without accepting that talking about rumoured incomings is equally pure fantasy

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Well it's then pretty pointless discussing any transfers because how can you discus an individual buy when you don't have any idea what money you have?
Of course if we sell certain players we will have to replace them, others we won't need to as we have a few excess. But it doesn't mean you spend like for like and that's why if you are going to talk about transfers you have to consider the bigger picture
Different coaches may come in with different plans and see different needs and evaluate players differently but at the end of the day players will be sold, some because we want to sell them some because the players want to leave.
With every name that's linked it's just as much fantasy that the new coach will want them and then if they do we will actually get them, so it's all fantasy however you approach it, if it's pointless talking about outgoings then it's just as equally pointless talking about incomings. Invariably if you talk about possible incoming players you then question can you afford them and can you get them which leads to possible outgoings and possible additional funds.
I'm not really sure how you can dismiss one side of the discussion as pure fantasy without accepting that talking about rumoured incomings is equally pure fantasy

I think its safe to assume we will have SOME money, so discussing each transfer rumour individually is perfectly sensible. Its when you start saying "oh yeah, we'll sell him and him, that will give us this much money" that it starts becoming a scenario that is based on fantasy really. Add to that we will have a new Manager coming in, so that may change players feelings, and also change who is wanted to remain ect ect.

 

[Barry Mead]

I think its safe to assume we will have SOME money, so discussing each transfer rumour individually is perfectly sensible. Its when you start saying "oh yeah, we'll sell him and him, that will give us this much money" that it starts becoming a scenario that is based on fantasy really. Add to that we will have a new Manager coming in, so that may change players feelings, and also change who is wanted to remain ect ect.

Why is it safe to assume that? We haven't net spent for quite a few windows, so I fail to see why it's safe to assume anything. In point of fact given the number of players we have sold in recent seasons it's far safer to assume we will be selling a number of players to raise funds than to believe we will have cash to spend

Sorry but saying we will sell him and him is just the same as saying we will buy him and him, reality suggests we will be selling some players and buying others, but if anything there's better chance of selling certain players than buying others

We all know it's if's and maybe's and that a vast majority of players linked will never be signed and a number of players we think might be sold don't get sold in the window you imagine, but to suggest it's perfectly sensible to talk about players that are unlikely to be signed but fantasy to talk about the players that are likely to leave to fund acquisitions seems a strange point of view to me

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Why is it safe to assume that? We haven't net spent for quite a few windows, so I fail to see why it's safe to assume anything. In point of fact given the number of players we have sold in recent seasons it's far safer to assume we will be selling a number of players to raise funds than to believe we will have cash to spend

Sorry but saying we will sell him and him is just the same as saying we will buy him and him, reality suggests we will be selling some players and buying others, but if anything there's better chance of selling certain players than buying others

We all know it's if's and maybe's and that a vast majority of players linked will never be signed and a number of players we think might be sold don't get sold in the window you imagine, but to suggest it's perfectly sensible to talk about players that are unlikely to be signed but fantasy to talk about the players that are likely to leave to fund acquisitions seems a strange point of view to me

I'm not saying "buy him and him" though, that's my point. I said I prefer to discuss each transfer rumour INDIVIDUALLY, rather than create a story of how the summer will unfold.

 

[Barry Mead]

I'm not saying "buy him and him" though, that's my point. I said I prefer to discuss each transfer rumour INDIVIDUALLY, rather than create a story of how the summer will unfold.

But that's just as much fantasy, you don't know a new coach will want the player or how we would get the funds, so just as pointless as the things you want to dismiss

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

But that's just as much fantasy, you don't know a new coach will want the player or how we would get the funds, so just as pointless as the things you want to dismiss

Like I said, I think its safe to assume we will have SOME money. In the January window Sherwood was quoted as saying that Levy asked him if he needed any players, that indicates there is SOME money there. Unless we've suddenly become bankrupt overnight that is.