Trial of new offside rule

[SirHarryHotspur]

Sounds like a load of nonsense , how can you trial it in some games, if FIFA want to trail it then do it their own competition the World Cup.
Wenger ideas from the past, throw ins to be replaced by free kicks , that was when he was at The Woolwich and they couldn't defend Delap long throws, world cup every two years another of his ideas , man's an idiot.

The Netherlands, Italy and Sweden will test it during some games.

 

[Stoof]

Yeah, then changed back quickly I think.

This was entirely invented as a rule by Andy Gray and Richard Keys.

 

[WeGotLedley]

Agree that this won't solve var issue, and, probably lead to deeper lines from defenders.

At least at elite level why can't they just automate it all?
The ball has a chip now. And every player has a GPS tracker on their back. Use that, and should have instant decisions, across the top leagues..
Then just have lino's for the rest...
Simple. (so no chance!)

 

[Rocksuperstar]

It changes nothing, it just relocates where the argument happens. VAR was going to come in and eliminate errors when, in essence, it's just another ref but further away, watching from an armchair - still a human, still opinion and this will just change what body part will be argued over.

 

[cwy21]

Will it though? I'm not so sure, but giving the attacker a bit more benefit has been called for for a long time to be fair.

Defenses simply can't play a high line if this becomes onside. This isn't a small advantage to the attacker. It's the biggest advantage given to them in a century.

 

[Yid-ol]

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Defenses simply can't play a high line if this becomes onside. This isn't a small advantage to the attacker. It's the biggest advantage given to them in a century.

You just stop playing for offside and track the man, total shift in mentally needed for defenders.

 

[Yid-ol]

This was entirely invented as a rule by Andy Gray and Richard Keys.

Which makes sense.... As it was a shit idea to start with, and a shit idea again now from another cock womble

 

[Stoof]

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Defenses simply can't play a high line if this becomes onside. This isn't a small advantage to the attacker. It's the biggest advantage given to them in a century.

Well that's not quite right, they just have to play a slightly higher line!

Think they should do it by head position, therefore speeding up the evolution of thin headed defenders and fat-headed forwards. It's the evolution we need.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

It changes nothing, it just relocates where the argument happens. VAR was going to come in and eliminate errors when, in essence, it's just another ref but further away, watching from an armchair - still a human, still opinion and this will just change what body part will be argued over.

True, but now everyone will nod and say: “Yep, he was offside there. “

 

[sparx100]

Doesn't this just move the problem from being is he millimeters past the furthest back part to now is he millimeters clear daylight past the last defender?

My thoughts exactly. Gives too much advantage to the attacker and the problem still remains regarding determining if there is a gnats cock of space. Just turn it to being a clear and obvious offside by thickening the lines.

 

[Yid-ol]

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

This is no better than the current solution - they are merely moving the point of controversy, which means we will still have horrendous waits whilst they make their mind up........we know the technology is not accurate enough to provide a conclusive answer due to the limited framerate utilised, and therefore we should instead be looking at a margin of tolerance equivalent to the distance travelable by the fastest player between frames - 30cm should be sufficient. If the player is within 30cm of being onside at the optimal point then they should be considered onside.

 

[WiganSpur]

This is no better than the current solution - they are merely moving the point of controversy, which means we will still have horrendous waits whilst they make their mind up........we know the technology is not accurate enough to provide a conclusive answer due to the limited framerate utilised, and therefore we should instead be looking at a margin of tolerance equivalent to the distance travelable by the fastest player between frames - 30cm should be sufficient. If the player is within 30cm of being onside at the optimal point then they should be considered onside.

I agree this will be a disaster and won't fix any of the VAR issues. The main problem is the poor standard of refereeing, they still can't apply the rules even when they've watched it over a few times.

There are three problems with VAR itself. For me these are its over application (it only should be used in obvious errors), the lack of a timeout which ruins the atmosphere and flow of the game - (If you're sat there for 3 minutes trying to figure it out then it can't be clear and obvious can it?). Another one is VAR only providing advice to referees and not just overriding decisions automatically. Why can't the VAR just overrule the referee? Why do they then have to run over and review it themselves?

Also this rule will make every game about 8-8 and not in a good way. Think it's only got traction because Wenger came up with it and is respected in the game.

 

[easley91]

Am I the only one who liked how offsides were done at the World Cup with the semi automated sytem?

 

[WiganSpur]

Sounds like it will give huge advantage to attackers, but let's see. Most people thought 5 sub rule would give huge advantage to rich teams, that they would sub wing backs at half time, and it didn't change that much. This one is different though, and I bet VAR in Premiership will still screw up often.

The 5 sub rule impact was always overplayed. At the end of the day if you're a lesser side you can go to the Etihad and throw on another couple of CBs to see out a draw in the last 5 minutes whilst being able to make tactical changes earlier in the game. I also think it's good for the league in general to have fresher players.

 

[jurgen11]

Jermaine Defoe would have netted 50 a season with this rule in place

 

[nidge]

They just need to introduce the football equivalent of the Umpires call in cricket.

If the onfield decision is within the margin of error for the tech then the onfield decision stands. If it isn't within the margin of error then the onfield decision can be overturned.

 

[FeilSpurs]

Would be better if they kept it the way it is, with a slight change.
If VAR can’t see if it’s onside/offside after 3 replays, it automatically
becomes onside…

 

[Sweech]

They just need to introduce the football equivalent of the Umpires call in cricket.

If the onfield decision is within the margin of error for the tech then the onfield decision stands. If it isn't within the margin of error then the onfield decision can be overturned.

We already have this issue though where the refs make shite calls and the ref with the tech doesn't want to challenge. Then we'll still have the issue of certain teams seemingly benefit from it being "marginal" yet the same margins won't benefit another.

 

[nidge]

We already have this issue though where the refs make shite calls and the ref with the tech doesn't want to challenge. Then we'll still have the issue of certain teams seemingly benefit from it being "marginal" yet the same margins won't benefit another.

With the automated AI offside VAR it wouldn't be a person making the decision. And also long as decisions are made with everyone knowing what the margin of error is then it is a fair system.