Tottenham hold concrete transfer talks with Jerome Boateng

[Shadydan]

Where do you get 5 years from?

Sorry thought you said 5 years.

 

[yankspurs]

Sign him up. Risk free solution.

 

[Shadydan]

Why if true are we getting a CB without a manager in place he might not want that particular player.

We need to find a manager who fits the ethos of the club because ultimately the players tend to last longer than the manager.

 

[freeeki]

Why anyone would turn their nose up at him on a free transfer for a season or two is beyond me.

But then, this board turns its nose up at just about every player we're linked with, as if there are no players in the world who can better the epicness of Dier, Sanchez, Winks and Sissoko

 

[whitesocks]

Hmm, Vertonghen didn't have much pace but was happy in a high line as he could recognise where the danger was and block runners early/catch them offside. But Vertongen was a very special player as we have found out.

If we are to play a high line, I think the best value would be with a younger player. But a high line needs a good press from the rest of the team, and as leeds showed us, our press is not effective. And we know the reason why.

If mourinho was still manager, then I feel he would have been more than happy with Boateng for his low block. Why are we potentially considering players for a manager we sacked?

 

[guiltyparty]

 

[Shadydan]

Hmm, Vertonghen didn't have much pace but was happy in a high line as he could recognise where the danger was and block runners early/catch them offside. But Vertongen was a very special player as we have found out.

If we are to play a high line, I think the best value would be with a younger player. But a high line needs a good press from the rest of the team, and as leeds showed us, our press is not effective. And we know the reason why.

If mourinho was still manager, then I feel he would have been more than happy with Boateng for his low block. Why are we potentially considering players for a manager we sacked?

Incredible reach that, you and I don't know whether Mourinho would have wanted him or not...but to answer your question he's been playing in a high line system for the majority of his career and missed 8 matches in the Bundesliga and Champions League this season for Flick's Bayern team who play a relentless high line so that tells me that he can still play in that system.

Besides as I said before the club need to bring players in that fit the ethos of the the club, ideally with a DOF behind it. Then you choose the manager to fit the club ethos, not the other way round.

 

[Thewobbler]

Not fussed either way but if we don't have much money to spend then might as well get him in

 

[sebo_sek]

So you'd like to give a player who's already lost all of his pace a few years on a contract. The very epitome of papering over the cracks.

The pace issue has already been answered by others. Also, the number of top CBs without pace is probably equal to those with pace, so don't worry.
Boateng is a top CB with experience of success. A no brainer for me

 

[shelfboy68]

We need to find a manager who fits the ethos of the club because ultimately the players tend to last longer than the manager.

Yes mate I'm in agreement reference the fit but refering to that specific player in fairness isn't going to outlast myself let alone the manager.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Only other thing I can think of against it, is if the new coach hadn't been consulted? I'd assume you'd want the new guy to have some say?

 

[Tel Boy]

So you'd like to give a player who's already lost all of his pace a few years on a contract. The very epitome of papering over the cracks.

As long as it papers over an Eric Dier sized crack, I’m all for it.

 

[GutBucket]

He was their weak link 2 years ago but looks like he was good/great this year. Should do better than Dier and Sanchez in any case. Think it will be him and Andersen for CB positions.

 

[Japhet]

He was their weak link 2 years ago but looks like he was good/great this year. Should do better than Dier and Sanchez in any case. Think it will be him and Andersen for CB positions.

I'd be perfectly happy with Andersen, Rodon and Tanganga. Boateng was very poor when he was in the EPL. Maybe I'm being harsh on Boateng but he's always seemed very hit and miss to me, and we know how that plays out for us.

 

[Locotoro]

So you'd like to give a player who's already lost all of his pace a few years on a contract. The very epitome of papering over the cracks.

He's not lost all his pace. But even outside that where he really excels is his redistribution of the ball when he wins it back - every tackle, interception or header he makes goes straight to a Bayern attacking player and sets them off on an attack. I've not seen a CB make so many positive attacking contributions recently and he's got a very good cross field pass that he uses to set the LW (i forget his name)

He's just turned 32 so he's not that old in CB terms and the way he completely bossed PSG's forward line in the QF 2 months ago tells me there's a lot left in the tank.

 

[Gbspurs]

I suspect we wouldn't have wanted Tiago Silva either but Chelsea have reaped the benefits from having his experience.

 

[McFlash]

He's free, has bags of experience and has the famous "winners mentality", what's not to like?
Apart from maybe a 3 year deal, maybe offer 2 with an option.

 

[blankom]

I'm sorry but if Jerome Boateng is someone we snub our noses at, then the level of dellusion among Spurs fans is simply stratospheric.
I remember the same talk when we signed Gallas, and he was a rock for us.
Same as Woodgate.

Yeah and also Gary Doherty!

 

[jolsnogross]

This is a classic new signing debate, and I reckon the risk is too high with this one. If it doesn't work out, like it didn't for him in the PL before, we've wasted another season of expensive wages papering over a major issue.

It's a bit like the Bale question for next season. I'd prefer if we didn't do it. It's too expensive for the level of return we get on the pitch.

If we had a high functioning team these guys could be final pieces of the puzzle. But we're miles off that. We need to think longer term than these expensive short term 'deals'.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

CB is our most vital position in need of an upgrade. We should not be trying to fix it with a free transfer of a player who's already been a flop in the EPL. Get yer wallet out Levy!

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that he flopped in the PL.

He joined Man City aged only 21 - few CBs are ready to hold down a starting spot for a title-challenging PL team.
He was played out of position at RB.
He tore a knee tendon just before the PL season started and was out for 2 months. This not only caused him to miss 20% of the season, but also delayed his acclimatisation period (with a new club in a new league) until the middle of the season.
Man City didn't push him out - he asked to leave because one of the biggest clubs in the world (Bayern) expressed interest and gave him assurances of regular playing time in his preferred position (CB).
His transfer value increased by almost 50% during his year of "flopping".
He left a team that at the time hadn't won a league title for over 50 years to join one that wins a league title almost every year. That sounds like a step up, not a step down, to me.

Even if he did "flop" at Man City when he was aged 21-22, he has gone on to spend the subsequent decade winning 9 league titles, 5 national cups, 2 Champions Leagues, 2 Club World Cups, 2 Super Cups...plus won a World Cup as a core player for his national team.
This doesn't sound like the accomplishments of a "flop" to me.

Hopefully you won't be suggesting that we need to sign proven winners once the window opens