The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread - 15/16 June 2013

[AssaTM]

So a guy comes in saying he's never had ITK before and he heard it from a mate, and everyone starts panicking, yet when we get ITK from people we KNOW are actually in the know or have good ties to people within the club, we dismiss it? only a Spurs fan...

 

[kr1978]

Doubt it is but ultimately it should be AVBs decision and if he feels that he can Improve the team more with the money that levy would give him from a bale transfer then I would support a sale, however if it is over AVBs head then I wouldn't be happy!

 

[Breezer]

It wouldn't really make sense though, would it? If we are willing to pay the release clause, all the money in the world paid by Chelsea would not make any difference, as we would have an automatic availability to the player. Any pound paid beyond the clause is just plain retarded (and will never happen, ofc).

I'm currently having a BBQ and on my phone so can't reply in full. But you need to get out into the real world if that's what you really think! Money always talks!!!!

 

[Sum Monsterism]

I may be wrong but isn't selling Gareth for £80m+ about the same as we'd recoup by winning the CL three times?

I can see why Levy would like the cash up front. AVB could go too, and you'd have managers lining up to come and spend half that figure on players to add to our squad...

Am not in favour of this btw, just saying.

 

[Lilbaz]

The money would no doubt improve us immeasurably IF it was put towards new signings, but realistically mate can you see it? I personally can't (not to mention how much the market value of players we were chasing would inflate IF Bale was sold, clubs would try and rip us off left, right and centre and I don't think Levy would pay what they wanted)

This is true. Also if we brought in 4 players at £20m each, we'd have to find their wages somewhere.

Glad I don't have to make the decisions.

 

[Gedson100]

I'm not having this.

Even the moneyed up clubs would be well served trying a bid of £60m first. They might not be adhering to FFP but surely no club is stupid enough to start the bidding at £85m or whatever.

As you were.

 

[kr1978]

I may be wrong but isn't selling Gareth for £80m+ about the same as we'd recoup by winning the CL three times?

I can see why Levy would like the cash up front. AVB could go too, and you'd have managers lining up to come and spend half that figure on players to add to our squad...

Am not in favour of this btw, just saying.

You are wrong sum it is about 60m for winning and 30m for qualifying for group stages so it would be like qualifying 3 times

 

[Lilbaz]

I'm currently having a BBQ and on my phone so can't reply in full. But you need to get out into the real world if that's what you really think! Money always talks!!!!

Think you might have the wrong end of the stick Breezer. If a player has a £10m release clause in his contract that is all any team will have to pay his club for him.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

If true then we will accept unfortunately I have zero percent faith that any more than half of the fee max would go into player signings - plus who of any real value will want to come to a non C L side where a) they just sold their best player and b) I will always be benchmarked against Bale

 

[Francis Gibbs]

You are wrong sum it is about 60m for winning and 30m for qualifying for group stages so it would be like qualifying 3 times

We got £33m for reaching the QFs I believe

 

[kr1978]

Think you might have the wrong end of the stick Breezer. If a player has a £10m release clause in his contract that is all any team will have to pay his club for him.

Yes but once the release fee is met there is nothing to stop other clubs going higher to get a better position or as is more likely with Chelsea , offering him stupid wages to blow us out of the water

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

This is true. Also if we brought in 4 players at £20m each, we'd have to find their wages somewhere.

Glad I don't have to make the decisions.

And that is why we should keep Bale. Even with all that cash we wouldn't be able to afford all the wages of 4 20m players. Hell we'd struggle to afford the wages of 3 of them, even 2. 20m players come with 100k+ wk wage expectations

 

[Mr Pink]

Is there any way it could be United? We have big problems if they come in with a massive bid. Couldn't take losing another of our best players to them, and this would be the best.

 

[Breezer]

Think you might have the wrong end of the stick Breezer. If a player has a £10m release clause in his contract that is all any team will have to pay his club for him.

Yes and if Chelsea offer an unlimited amount of money in a brown envelope then I'm pretty the player would sign for them.

 

[Lilbaz]

Yes but once the release fee is met there is nothing to stop other clubs going higher to get a better position or as is more likely with Chelsea , offering him stupid wages to blow us out of the water

Wages are totally separate and would be negotiated with the player not the club. Bidding higher will do nothing as the release clause is matched at £10m and the club would have to release the player at that amount if the player wants to leave.

 

[kr1978]

Is there any way it could be United? We have big problems if they come in with a massive bid. Couldn't take losing another of our best players to them, and this would be the best.

Agree with that- have always been more worried about them making a move as it would negate a lot of our arguments for him staying (family, moving abroad etc)

 

[CphCOYS]

Yes but once the release fee is met there is nothing to stop other clubs going higher to get a better position or as is more likely with Chelsea , offering him stupid wages to blow us out of the water

Why should any club go higher than the release clause?!

The rich clubs could obviously have a better position regarding to the wages offered, but there is absolutely no reason as to why they would go beyond the release clause..

 

[Sum Monsterism]

You are wrong sum it is about 60m for winning and 30m for qualifying for group stages so it would be like qualifying 3 times

oh... lets keep him then.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

I'm not having this.

Even the moneyed up clubs would be well served trying a bid of £60m first. They might not be adhering to FFP but surely no club is stupid enough to start the bidding at £85m or whatever.

As you were.

so jair, you spent all last night saying (and repeating) that andre no go. where's the confidence over bale dude?

 

[makeveli]

I beleive chavs got nearly 100 mill for winning the champions league