The Summer 2024 scouting thread

[GutBucket]

One of my best mates is a Saints fan and says KWP is comfortably seen as their best player. I went to watch them and he was very good.

Our business will partly be dependent on sales.

Ait-Nouri and KWP could be good options for wing back and possibly available too.

From there we can look to sell/release Dier, Royal, Lo Celso, Gil, Hojbjerg and Sessegnon.

Depending on how successful we are with sales I wonder if we could look into spending big on a striker, who know the return of Kane might even be available.

KWP being club trained would help us if we get CL. I was more impressed with him as inverted LWB and RWB at Southampton but he can play both positions. Would love him here again.

 

[delawarespur]

Like many, I think a 1v1 winger is a must in the summer. Don’t think they have to be supremely athletic or pacy (would be a bonus), but someone who can be a destabilizer in the final third against a set block is simply essential. Neto, Williams are popular ones in here. Kvara, Leão probably too high profile/expensive. Some under the radar options I like are Lille’s Edon Zhegrova (left footer) and Leeds’ Crysencio Summerville (right footed). Both young, 1v1 threats, great feet, technical, can go inside or byline and with decent end product. That’s all you really need out of that profile and these two wouldn’t cost the world. But that’s if we’re not gonna shop in the upper bracket, which maybe we should. Should be the first profile of player bought this summer for sure though regardless.

 

[lincspurs]

Like many, I think a 1v1 winger is a must in the summer. Don’t think they have to be supremely athletic or pacy (would be a bonus), but someone who can be a destabilizer in the final third against a set block is simply essential. Neto, Williams are popular ones in here. Kvara, Leão probably too high profile/expensive. Some under the radar options I like are Lille’s Edon Zhegrova (left footer) and Leeds’ Crysencio Summerville (right footed). Both young, 1v1 threats, great feet, technical, can go inside or byline and with decent end product. That’s all you really need out of that profile and these two wouldn’t cost the world. But that’s if we’re not gonna shop in the upper bracket, which maybe we should. Should be the first profile of player bought this summer for sure though regardless.

Hadn’t heard of Zhegova until someone posted a compilation video a couple of weeks ago, after seeing that I’m in!!!

 

[only1waddle]

GK - HG no.2

LB rotation - I'd echo the calls for Alfie Doughty, I think he's a moneyball type signing, solves an HG issue, decent set piece/general delivery which gives us some more versatility, quick of thought and looks comfortable higher up the pitch, Lloyd Kelly seems more of a homegrown Emerson, good but limited.

CM - someone like Veerman at PSV

WF - Neto or any classic winger type, actual ability to cross the ball and dribble 1 v1 a bonus, I like Ferran Torres also but I think he prefers to work in the box a bit more and not be stuck out so wide.

CF - our scouting Nemesis post Redknapp/HK years, Gimenez looks to have a good all round game, good in the air which will be invaluable, tidy one on one with the keeper, confident finisher, reads the game well, South American contingent present to make him comfortable.
Can he translate it to a rainy night in Fulham.. more than a good chance.

loads of outs and we all know who so I think 5 incoming is logistically the limit.

CF of Richy/Son and new RB rotation or new CF and keep Emerson is possibly the only question as to which one is more valuable to the evolution of the squad.

 

[rambu]

A poster name excape me from the winter thread mentioned Kadioglu (born '99) from Fenerbahçe, a LB/RB, and I agreed that he's very intriguing.

He's a right footer playing on the left, aggresive engine type, good dribbler and very comfortable on the attack from the few highlights I can find - said he's a CM converted to fullback, seem to really fit what we are looking for.

 

[RuskyM]

I listen to both NTT20Pod and What the EFL (not every week but fairly regularly during workouts) and multiple times this season people have declared KWP the best player in the Championship with no pushback. I'd be very down.

 

[joey55]

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Viktor Gyorkeres reminds me a bit of Kane. First and formeost he's a really good finisher, but he's also a good technical player. I think he's in a different league to Gimenez.

Staying with the Viktor theme, Viktor Dukanovic seems to have the right attributes to succeed in the Prem. He reminds me of Ante Rebic who I always thought should have had a much better career than he's had and would have suited Prem football more than Serie A and the Bundelsiga.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I think we should be considering him as a LW option. Can also play RW.

We have his younger brother on our books too.

Someone like him alongside Neto would really add a broader set of skills to our attack.

 

[ajspurs]

I think we should be considering him as a LW option. Can also play RW.

We have his younger brother on our books too.

Someone like him alongside Neto would really add a broader set of skills to our attack.

Is he above the likes of Solomon, Johnson and Kulusevski? We may be considering a player such as this when you take into account our pursuit of Nusa, but I do still think we need strongly better than those 3 mentioned players when it comes to the wide areas. Even more so if we're to take up the option on Werner.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Is he above the likes of Solomon, Johnson and Kulusevski? We may be considering a player such as this when you take into account our pursuit of Nusa, but I do still think we need strongly better than those 3 mentioned players when it comes to the wide areas. Even more so if we're to take up the option on Werner.

He looks significantly more technical than Johnson and Werner and is a much better dribbler both statistically and eye test wise than any of our attackers.

Looks much more set up to develop in to a really good player imo because he has technical foundations alongside his pace and willingness to try things and beat players.

 

[Yiddo1982]

Like many, I think a 1v1 winger is a must in the summer. Don’t think they have to be supremely athletic or pacy (would be a bonus), but someone who can be a destabilizer in the final third against a set block is simply essential. Neto, Williams are popular ones in here. Kvara, Leão probably too high profile/expensive. Some under the radar options I like are Lille’s Edon Zhegrova (left footer) and Leeds’ Crysencio Summerville (right footed). Both young, 1v1 threats, great feet, technical, can go inside or byline and with decent end product. That’s all you really need out of that profile and these two wouldn’t cost the world. But that’s if we’re not gonna shop in the upper bracket, which maybe we should. Should be the first profile of player bought this summer for sure though regardless.

I think we need two 1x1 dribblers. It will transform the way we play and then Kulu can deputise for Maddison.

I'd also look at Ait-Nouri and Doughty, along with KWP, for inverted full back roles.

 

[ajspurs]

He looks significantly more technical than Johnson and Werner and is a much better dribbler both statistically and eye test wise than any of our attackers.

Looks much more set up to develop in to a really good player imo because he has technical foundations alongside his pace and willingness to try things and beat players.

Thanks! I'm just sceptical regarding talent that isn't greatly proven for that position as of now. I think there are question marks over Johnson, Werner, Kulusevski and Solomon, all for different reasons and varying degrees. Not question marks over whether they can bring something to the team, but as to whether they can provide the quality needed on a regular enough basis. I personally don't think we can afford to add someone who may very well (and understandably) fall in that same category.

It may be a completely different story if we don't sign Werner, look to more permanently move Kulusevski central, eye moving on Solomon (which I'm not sure I'd agree with) etc.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

He looks significantly more technical than Johnson and Werner and is a much better dribbler both statistically and eye test wise than any of our attackers.

Looks much more set up to develop in to a really good player imo because he has technical foundations alongside his pace and willingness to try things and beat players.

Plus, Ange prefers a young player he can develop, he always has.

We seem to get really wedded on Allison/VVD type signings when history tells us we are far more successful with Sarr, Udogie, VDV ones. Our coach prefers them and the really high end ones come to us as a 2nd choice because we're not elite, so sometimes have plateaued or don't have the x factor to push on

 

[ajspurs]

Plus, Ange prefers a young player he can develop, he always has.

We seem to get really wedded on Allison/VVD type signings when history tells us we are far more successful with Sarr, Udogie, VDV ones. Our coach prefers them and the really high end ones come to us as a 2nd choice because we're not elite, so sometimes have plateaued or don't have the x factor to push on

I do agree, I just think it's a fine balance at the same time too. I do feel like when we're already quite stacked in a position with players of a level that aren't quite high enough as we need, the capability to then take a risk on a player such as one from the Championship who I guess has only established himself this season? Is possibly one we don't have the luxury of taking. Nico Williams and Neto for example, both 21 and 23 respectively, would be a level I'd love to see us look to. I absolutely love the idea of sticking to youth/prospects, but I do also really believe we're gonna have to pull the trigger on a few signings like these eventually, if we're really going to propel ourselves as a club.

 

[sharky127]

If (when) Burnley get relegated i'd seriously take a look at Luca Koleosho as a back up/rotation LW option. Been really impressed whenever i've seen him get a run out. Fast, tricky dribbler that reminds me a little of Aaron Lennon in the way he runs a people

 

[matty74]

If (when) Burnley get relegated i'd seriously take a look at Luca Koleosho as a back up/rotation LW option. Been really impressed whenever i've seen him get a run out. Fast, tricky dribbler that reminds me a little of Aaron Lennon in the way he runs a people

Wilson Odobert would be a better option scored a couple of wonder goals this season . Is 19 and can play left , right or even as a attacking midfielder

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I do agree, I just think it's a fine balance at the same time too. I do feel like when we're already quite stacked in a position, with players of a level that aren't quite high enough as we need, the capability to then take a risk on a player such as one from the Championship who I guess has only established himself this season? Is possibly one we don't have the luxury of taking. Nico Williams and Neto for example, both 21 and 23 respectively, would be level I'd love to see us look to. I absolutely love the idea of sticking to youth/prospects, but I do also really believe we're gonna have to pull the trigger on a few signings like these eventually, if we're really going to propel ourselves as a club.

For what it's worth I agree that we need a marquee type winger like Neto or Williams too.

I was thinking in addition to one of those we could sign someone like Philogene, Summerville, Bakayoko or Koleosho perhaps. If we can't afford to sign both Williams AND Neto.

 

[delawarespur]

I think we need two 1x1 dribblers. It will transform the way we play and then Kulu can deputise for Maddison.

I'd also look at Ait-Nouri and Doughty, along with KWP, for inverted full back roles.

Yeah. The more I think about it, signing a left footer and a right footer, both with 1v1 ability, for the wings is ideal. Williams, Laurienté, Summerville, Mitoma (price?), Kvara (price?), Nusa (injuries?) as right footed options. Neto (price?), Olise (price?), Bakayoko, Zhegrova, Kubo, Soulé as left footed options. Would be spending up to 150 mil on two of these, getting FB depth who profile similarly to Udogie and Porro, and calling it a summer (maybe a no 6 too).

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

If it's true Wolves will want £80m for Neto then sorry but we can find better value elsewhere. He is a very good player but his stats do not justify that kind of fee, especially with his injury record

 

[Guntz]

I know we're probably not going to sign a striker, but Gyokeres looks like a Kane regen.

He's got everything you would want in a striker.

Maybe he turns out to be a one-season wonder. But at this rate, he's going to get a mega move this summer.

The second goal in this video is Kane esque.