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coys200

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Had his chance ?‍♂️

He was given a few games last season where he clearly proved what he can do but was never given an actual run in the team to develop. Really he should have gone on loan last season and played 40 games. Full backs will only develop their understanding of the game with real minutes.

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What has Foyth proved exactly, that makes him our RB choice?

It’s crazy the standards our academy products have to prove against players we’ve brought in.

What has he proved ? 20 club appearances over 2 years and I don’t see any signs of improvement at all in his play or physically and 22 now. Pochettino chose Foyth over him at end of season at RB. Yes he’s a competent player but nothing better than that. Foyth clearly has a higher ceiling.
 

Anuth

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I got this from Japanese fan. apparently, we sent our U14 to a competition in Japan in May.

We were in the same group with Iwate(L2-3), Palmeiras(L0-4), Tokyo Training Center(L1-3) and New South Wales (W2-0). Then we proceed to 9th-12th round which we won against Tokyo High School (5-2) and Paris FC (2-3). We finished 9th.


This is our squad so maybe someone with better knowledge can help id them. @IGSpur @Spurzinho
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therhinospeaks

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What has he proved ? 20 club appearances over 2 years and I don’t see any signs of improvement at all in his play or physically and 22 now. Pochettino chose Foyth over him at end of season at RB. Yes he’s a competent player but nothing better than that. Foyth clearly has a higher ceiling.

Child's physique. Time to move him on.
 

therhinospeaks

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I got this from Japanese fan. apparently, we sent our U14 to a competition in Japan in May.

We were in the same group with Iwate(L2-3), Palmeiras(L0-4), Tokyo Training Center(L1-3) and New South Wales (W2-0). Then we proceed to 9th-12th round which we won against Tokyo High School (5-2) and Paris FC (2-3). We finished 9th.


This is our squad so maybe someone with better knowledge can help id them. @IGSpur @Spurzinho View attachment 53366

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MEGHOMA.......ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
 

Anuth

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I got this from Japanese fan. apparently, we sent our U14 to a competition in Japan in May.

We were in the same group with Iwate(L2-3), Palmeiras(L0-4), Tokyo Training Center(L1-3) and New South Wales (W2-0). Then we proceed to 9th-12th round which we won against Tokyo High School (5-2) and Paris FC (2-3). We finished 9th.


This is our squad so maybe someone with better knowledge can help id them. @IGSpur @Spurzinho View attachment 53366

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I looked deeper and found an in-depth report on our U14 from that tournament. It's in Japanese, so I use google translate.

Link: https://note.mu/spurs_youth/n/n9617b29d5c13

L.Gunter
Positive GK. Saving, catching, kicking, all levels were high. He also had a high sense of stability, and saved many times the team's pinch. There was a lot of pinch too much and there was also a scene where it was broken to DF line. If I dare to cite a weak point, it might be about when the timing of the launch is halfway. It will be quite promising from now on in the universal type for the Spurs Youth GK.

M. King
He used to play well as a right-hand sideback, but the level was not high enough to make a lasting impression. I did not show a sense of presence throughout the offense and defense.

J.Meghoma
Very small left SB. This player did not leave much impact either. I felt that I was looking at the play, and I was conscious of giving a pass to the SH that was stretching outside, after noticing too much of the pass after receiving a pass from the CB or GK. I'll be able to take a path in more directions, or I need a forward momentum.

A. Piesold
Left-handed CH. I dribbled from a low position. He did not show much play, but helped the team with a nice positioning. The direction of dribbling was good and calming the team.

A. Dorrington
Large CB. Basically, since the CB of the other side is small, the uneven CB combination is formed. Although the height of oneself is large, because it is aimed at the other side in the competition, it was not possible to make the most of the height easily. It is strong when it comes to a competition. Although it is large, I am confident in my current technology as I dribble and move forward. I received the impression that it was a big voice. There are players who can dribble like Tanganga in Spurs Youth, but they have had a different touch. I think that it is a rare type in Spurusesuyu CB.

Z. Simons
The smaller CB. However, the ability to predict on the ball at the time of defense was high, and it was often seen that the ball was tackled only at the last moment to prevent a shot. Especially in the match against Paris in the final match, his opponent's CF was a big player and was overwhelmingly defeated in physique, but he was not allowed to play freely with high defensive sense. Physical abilities may turn into physical skills.

H.Sander
The real occupation seems to be the right SH, but sometimes the right SB was also played. The style of play on SH is to dribble the opponent vertically. However, I did not break through until the touch line, so I played while using allies well. I wish it had a little more speed.

G.Abbott
This is also a player of the right SH. It is a feeling that this player will compete when there is no Sander. There were many inputs from the second half. Unlike Sander, this is the type that carries a dribble. He was showing steady play without trying to force it.

J. Donley
Apparently the correct position seems to be CF, but the position that was allowed was all over the center from the top to the bottom of the middle. In the third group league game, it was a mystery system that Donley could not make use of a large physique while there was no storage place on the front with a position like the bottom lower with 10th Bloxham and 11th Owen left small on the front. His own strength is the play that Kane has shown in recent years to expand the ball on the reverse side after receiving from the first row and keeping it. Like Dorrington, it has a large footprint, but its foot technology is solid. And FK was good, in the final game it was decided a superb direct FK. It is also a feature of Lefty.


T.Bloxham
He was short, but he was a great genius in the team when it came to playing soccer. As mentioned above, it was used at the top in the GL3 game, but in other games it was playing SH and IH and showed a better play there. It was possible to receive in the middle stage and make a tag, and it was the best deposit place in the team because it was not taken away at all. Not only was he unable to take the ball, but after keeping it, he was taking out the correct ball to the vacant space. Since the press from the front was also peeled off, it was an indispensable piece in the attack. I pray that I can not cut because of my height.

R.Owen
Dribble with a touch similar to Bloxham. However, the position is slightly higher and he does WG from SH. These players also dribbled through the press and kept time to make time for the whole team. Also, the first touch was very good and I was trapped in a good place and then I pulled out my opponent. It is very disappointing that I lost the late tackle in the last game and got injured and replaced. He was too short, but he showed off his talent.

L.Black
It played a role of filter in the middle stage. Uncommon for Spurs Youth, he was a well-defenseed player who could delay the attack or take the ball in front of the DF line. What I felt particularly good was the play that took an approach from the back of the enemy just to approach the ball. Although small, he was able to contribute to the team with his defensive sense. Also, although I do not know whether I am doing well and I am good at supporting Spurs, I used to play a style similar to Chelsea's singing.


C.Bloedorn
It depends on the age, but a little smaller GK. I was in the final game. GK's original ability was perfect, but I was overwhelmed by the fact that I saw it kicking too much. It wasn't his fault as he didn't care about the goal scene. Perhaps I think the age is one less than Gunter.

O.Irow
There were a lot of opportunities to play, but I didn't play very impressive games. He was a WG or SH player, but he wasn't the type who dribbled vertically, but he used to hit the return pass and hit other players and hit back again to play the ball again. I was good at handling the ball.

G.H.Willhoft-King
Chinese player. However, because it did not look like a pure Chinese, would it be half or quarter? I was working on the left SB and CH. If anything, SB seems to be better. The reason is that I had a bad way of holding when I played on the CH. Positioning of pulling out the ball from SB and CB was good, but after that I waited for the ball to come too much before going ahead, so there were occasions where the press was played and the ball was robbed. The kick is so good that the set play kicks with Lefty, so I want you to control the game from SB.

Z.Nelson
Ahead CF players. Unlike Donley, it is not large. However, he could play with his opponent on his shoulder for his height, and he was able to keep a pass from a friend by holding a pass. In addition, it was unusual for Spurs Youth to make a line break and sometimes changed the flow of the game by putting it on the way.
 

mill

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Can’t see tanganga having any chance of game time next season, likely sixth choice behind dier at best. Loan would probably be best for him
 

Spurzinho

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I got this from Japanese fan. apparently, we sent our U14 to a competition in Japan in May.

We were in the same group with Iwate(L2-3), Palmeiras(L0-4), Tokyo Training Center(L1-3) and New South Wales (W2-0). Then we proceed to 9th-12th round which we won against Tokyo High School (5-2) and Paris FC (2-3). We finished 9th.


This is our squad so maybe someone with better knowledge can help id them. @IGSpur @Spurzinho View attachment 53366

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Front row: L-R: Axel Piesold (cm), ???, ???, ???, ,Tom Bloxham (cm), Jayden Maghoma, Hakeem Sandah (st), Ollie Irow, ???, Zachariah Simons, Gabriel Han Willhroft-King (st), Jamie Donley (ST)

Back row: L-r: Sam Cox (coach), Alfie Dorrington (defender), Luca Gunter (GK), Carey Bloedorn (GK),
 

Spurzinho

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Leo Black and Owen Riley (mistyped as R. Owen (are two of the others). Can't think who M. King is.
 

Spurzinho

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Do you guys genuinely follow u14 football? Not @ing any of you, just curious.

Very little as hardly any of their games are open to the public. You can see them at international tournaments which are often streamed online or presented as highlights. They also make fleeting appearances with older age groups and with their national sides. jamie Donley, for example, is a Northern Ireland international.
 

spurs9

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Yes, how long did it take Walker to get to the level he was at, the season he came back to us after playing at QPR/villa he was still on a massive learning curve and was making so many errors. That season did wonders for his development. Walker had 5x the first team experience of KWP too.

Now people are writing off KWP after 2 pre-season games. It’s a joke
Walker was excellent the season after the QPR/Villa loans, he even won PL young player of the year, but he then made mistakes and played poor under AVB for 18 months and missed the first half a season under Poch due to injury but he was fantastic for the 2 & 1/2 seasons he was fit under Poch.

Agree with you about not writing off KWP though.
 

spurs9

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What has he proved ? 20 club appearances over 2 years and I don’t see any signs of improvement at all in his play or physically and 22 now. Pochettino chose Foyth over him at end of season at RB. Yes he’s a competent player but nothing better than that. Foyth clearly has a higher ceiling.
Of which only 13 have been starts and only 9 of those were on the Right and in those 9 start at RB he has 5 assists and 3 MOM awards..........not too shabby.

Also, 9 starts isn't enough time to initially judge a player, let alone judge an improvement.
 

coys200

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Of which only 13 have been starts and only 9 of those were on the Right and in those 9 start at RB he has 5 assists and 3 MOM awards..........not too shabby.

Also, 9 starts isn't enough time to initially judge a player, let alone judge an improvement.

Imo the majority of youth that are going to be high level you can tell virtually instantly they have something about them. Yes obviously there are a few cases that prove this wrong. But if you have to hum and haw about a player over 30 games like KWP or Onomah or Ccv they probably won’t be good enough. Look at the current England team virtually every player it was obvious straight away apart from maybe Kane and Maguire. It’s just like Parrott you can tell in 45 minutes he’s a player. With KWP you’re desperately straining to see stuff to justify his case. Yrs he’s competent but nothing special. Will have a good career probably in PL but not at a top 6 club.
 

spurs9

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Imo the majority of youth that are going to be high level you can tell virtually instantly they have something about them. Yes obviously there are a few cases that prove this wrong. But if you have to hum and haw about a player over 30 games like KWP or Onomah or Ccv they probably won’t be good enough. Look at the current England team virtually every player it was obvious straight away apart from maybe Kane and Maguire. It’s just like Parrott you can tell in 45 minutes he’s a player. With KWP you’re desperately straining to see stuff to justify his case. Yrs he’s competent but nothing special. Will have a good career probably in PL but not at a top 6 club.
KWP hasn't played 30 games, not even close.

Just going by the current England team Maguire, Keane, Pickford, Rice (was absolutley awful in quite a few games in his first season), Lingard, Kane, Henderson, Wilson, Rose and Dier.

Rose was 23 when his Sunderland loan finished and although he did well, he didn't look like he would be top 6 team standard and even at 24, he had a few games under AVB where he looked good but more games (especially under Sherwood) where he looked shit.
 
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Tom Hep

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Yago Santiago has been pictured in the Under-18 changing rooms at Hotspur Way ahead of their friendlies against Manchester United and Ipswich Town, on Chay Cooper’s Snapchat story. This most likely means that he is going going to be part of the new intake but hasn’t signed yet, therefore why we haven’t announced our new scholarship intake yet.
 
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