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AngryBob

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If we've already spent the Kane money, can we please spend the Sarr money this week, or the Udogie money, or whoever we'll be selling in a few years when they peak?
 

Stamford

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If we've spent the Kane money then let's spend the tv money that every other premier league club spends
 

spursfan77

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Honestly as others have said, this business we’ve done up to this point would be satisfactory for a club of our stature if Kane had stayed.

With him gone, it’s not unreasonable to expect a large chunk of money to now be spent improving the attack that Levy has just blown a hole through.

The optics of spending £0 and loaning a winger from Barca after selling Kane for £100m is horrendous too.

Saying that, it sounds remarkably similar to our LCB hunt last summer, where we were linked with £60m+ players like Bastoni and Gvardiol, only to settle on a loan from Barca…

The days after Kane was sold and we didn’t buy anyone told me that the rest of the window would go exactly like this.

One thing we can’t do is turn on the manager and players this time. We can’t let Levy and the board do it to them. They’ve been let down by the owners yet again and they are the ones to blame.
 

Matrix

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I think I got banned from the transfer section for saying, we use transfer hype to sell season tickets then end up with a net zero net spend.
Depends if you said it in the ITK thread.

Your point is probably bang on tbh.
 

Dougal

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Outside of Chelsea, Liverpool and man city, who else is winning trophies.

Arsenal have probably had the barest 20 years in their club history. Utd can't muster a league challenge, and have only won 1 title in 5 years.

Newcastle, Everton, Villa, Leeds, Forest, who are all of similar stature historically have won nothing in 20 odd years.

This has as much to do with oligarchs and sportswashers taking the competition away.

Uefa have had to introduce an inferior cup competition, just to give other clubs a chance.

The whole idea of it being a competition seems like a bit of a fallacy, imo.
Oligarchs and sport washing has little to do with us going out to Fulham in August. It’d be nice to even attempt to go toe to toe but Levy keeps us well away from the fight.
 

CowInAComa

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Oligarchs and sport washing has little to do with us going out to Fulham in August. It’d be nice to even attempt to go toe to toe but Levy keeps us well away from the fight.

We had the players to beat Fulham though didn't we. New players, players on form, good players. We didn't pick them.

I'm all for levy bashing but Im finding pinning the Fulham result on him quite tenuous.
 

DogsOfWar

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Looking at the net profit figures (I.e after amortisation and depreciation) is very misleading.
Even taking those in to account we are not making big profits which are then being salted away by Lewis/Daniel Levy.
Criticise them for prioritising cart tracks, building stadiums, having to pay off poor managerial appointments, amortising poor transfers etc but not for the one thing they are not guilty of.
 

Dougal

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We had the players to beat Fulham though didn't we. New players, players on form, good players. We didn't pick them.

I'm all for levy bashing but Im finding pinning the Fulham result on him quite tenuous.
Tenuous? After over 20 years? The evidence is there.
 

chas vs dave

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Oligarchs and sport washing has little to do with us going out to Fulham in August. It’d be nice to even attempt to go toe to toe but Levy keeps us well away from the fight

No one said that. Did levy tell ange to play a weakened side? Did he tell the players and conte to not turn up away to Sheffield utd. Away to forest?, away to Colchester?
 

Dougal

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I just tried googling Daniel Levy, but looking for the actor. It came up with pictures of our chairman. I put in ‘Daniel Levy Schitts Creek’. It came up with pictures of our Chairman.
 

Dougal

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No one said that. Did levy tell ange to play a weakened side? Did he tell the players and conte to not turn up away to Sheffield utd. Away to forest?, away to Colchester?
Is that not showing that our ‘weakened side’ just shines a torch on how long we have had a weak squad?

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g_harry

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No one said that. Did levy tell ange to play a weakened side? Did he tell the players and conte to not turn up away to Sheffield utd. Away to forest?, away to Colchester?
No one saying he picked the team but he certainly would make it clear to the manager the priority is league position so managers play/pick the team accordingly. It also highlights that the squad is just not good enough again this has been versed by a number of managers over a number of years but nothing changes.
 

chas vs dave

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No one saying he picked the team but he certainly would make it clear to the manager the priority is league position so managers play/pick the team accordingly. It also highlights that the squad is just not good enough again this has been versed by a number of managers over a number of years but nothing changes.

Nothing changes? I think there has been plenty of change. From mangers, to scouting, to our youth policy.

League will always be a priority for any club. I doubt any owner tells a manager that cup competition is not important. I mean cup runs mean more money.
 
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CowInAComa

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No one saying he picked the team but he certainly would make it clear to the manager the priority is league position so managers play/pick the team accordingly. It also highlights that the squad is just not good enough again this has been versed by a number of managers over a number of years but nothing changes.

You are upset about a conversation between levy and Ange you have made up in your head mate.

I would be utterly amazed given our lack of any sort of success over the last quarter century if he was told to write off the cup.

We are out the cup because we didn't respect the competition and picked our weakest players. Players we literally are trying to sell.
 

CowInAComa

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Is that not showing that our ‘weakened side’ just shines a torch on how long we have had a weak squad?

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We aren't city mate, we can't have a bench of 60m players. Our weakened second side was largely last season's first team, and full of internationals.

That they are shite is why they are now the b team.
 

mattspur1986

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I’ll be completely done with Daniel Levy and ENIC if the remaining business we do is a winger on loan and a replacement CB for our deadwood.

If it’s a straight choice between Fati OR Johnson, serious questions need to start being raised about what ENIC are doing with the money this club is making.

Last year we had the “cash injection” which actually turned out to be our entire transfer budget, ignoring the stadium revenue, TV and CL qualification money.

Now, after rinsing the fans dry with price increases and selling our greatest ever player for a nine-figure sum, it seems as if ENIC are once again going to plead poverty. If we don’t sign Johnson and end up selling Hojbjerg, we may genuinely break even this summer.

The fans and the club are being milked here. It’s a disgrace.

and are you even the littlest bit surprised? Genuinely think we struggle to get anyone in, maybe fati - and then everyone will be happy with it and the cycle will reset itself come January!
 

alfie103

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You are upset about a conversation between levy and Ange you have made up in your head mate.

I would be utterly amazed given our lack of any sort of success over the last quarter century if he was told to write off the cup.

We are out the cup because we didn't respect the competition and picked our weakest players. Players we literally are trying to sell.

Why would you be amazed? For me, it seems obvious we prioritise qualifying for the CL over anything else.

I don't think Levy is particularly worried about winning trophies.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Honestly as others have said, this business we’ve done up to this point would be satisfactory for a club of our stature if Kane had stayed.

With him gone, it’s not unreasonable to expect a large chunk of money to now be spent improving the attack that Levy has just blown a hole through.

The optics of spending £0 and loaning a winger from Barca after selling Kane for £100m is horrendous too.

Saying that, it sounds remarkably similar to our LCB hunt last summer, where we were linked with £60m+ players like Bastoni and Gvardiol, only to settle on a loan from Barca…
1,000,000% this, nailed it.
 

Dillspur

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Looking at the spending since Paratici came in and (so far) this year.
Received €34m paid €95m
Received €38m paid €177M
Received €112m paid €193m

Net spend is €281m this doesn't include the £100m "investment" which puts us around €165m approx €50m per year. Which is frankly peanuts
 
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