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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

cookiemonster

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Happy? I can absoltuely confirm that I am 100% not happy. I was fuming last night and I still am this morning.

60,000 fans singing ENIC out is not going to change anything and will just add to the toxicity surrounding the club at the moment and make us more of a laughing stock.

People have made Levy into this bogeyman who is the root of all our problems. If you look at the facts he has transformed us as a club. Lot of positives and a few key ****-ups thyat have held us back but the way fans go on you would swear it is an inside job to destroy our club.

For the record. Key mistakes in the 20 year tenure:

* Not backing Poch in the transfer market - Disapointing but we had the stadium to pay for. In the long run, the stadium is important like it or not
* Sacking Poch - Many fans at the time were on board with this. People forget how bad it got
* Appointing Nuno - Major ****-up. Quickly realised and was quick to appoint Conte who fans were delighted with
* Appointing Stellini - Mistake imo but it's only for a few weeks

Am I missing anything? Hindsight is a great thing. To my mind these were all mistakes but at the time you could see the arguments. I'm not a Levy fan boy by any means but people need to get some ***in perspective.
3m + Onomah for Grealish

Refuse to pay extra 10m for Skriniar

Nelsen & Saha

Frazier Campbell

Sissoko instead of Mane

Whole transfer philosophy is wrong - only want to buy young players on low wages...Will not back established players with no sell on value
 

Ledders Army

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If the Levy loves the club he will accept he can do no more, that the stadium was his legacy and that he isn’t good enough when it comes to building a team or supporting a build.

He will then resign the chairmanship and hand over to someone with modern fresh ideas. This is of course if he loves the club.
You believe Levy is more of a problem than Enic & Joe Lewis? They stay, Levy goes & things will get better?
 

funkycoldmedina

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Jun 20, 2004
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3m + Onomah for Grealish

Refuse to pay extra 10m for Skriniar

Nelsen & Saha

Frazier Campbell

Sissoko instead of Mane

Whole transfer philosophy is wrong - only want to buy young players on low wages...Will not back established players with no sell on value
That Grealish thing is bollocks and has been debunked multiple times by Trix and yet still gets trotted out because.......well Levy
 

Schoolboy Spurs

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Unless there is a Saint out of nowhere, a rich one, stumping the entire cost Levy asks for and buy over the whole thing. This is like the only solution but also almost impossible.. 😞
This! Maybe the only way he walks away but they (Levy and Enic) are going to ask for more than the listed value.
 

AtoubaToothpaste

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Even if he went, we are so deep in the shit, it will take years to get us to a competitive place. The recruitment strategy or lack needs immediate overhaul. Our scouting and academy produces the square root of fuck all. Our mangerial appointments have been disastrous and toxic and can’t continue to get it so wrong.

New owners will have a “to do” list that is so long it disappears over the horizon.
I don't agree with that, but even if what you say is right, then it's all the more important to get rid of Levy ASAP so we can get on with rebuilding the football side. The longer we're stuck with that shitbag, the longer we're going to be mediocre.
 
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dirtyh

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love the tennis ball idea. swamping the pitch with 10-20000 tennis balls during a game would be amazing. especially if on every one was written 'levy out'
 

For the love of Spurs

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You believe Levy is more of a problem than Enic & Joe Lewis? They stay, Levy goes & things will get better?

yes becuase it’s not a money issue it’s a total lack of plan, we have no style of football, no clear vision which means we have no direction. Look at much smaller poorer clubs like Brighton that are well run. It’s night and day.
 

sidford

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Post in thread 'The ousting of Daniel Levy' https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-ousting-of-daniel-levy.151927/post-8284137

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:
Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
First club to go two windows with no signings
Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
Sacks Poch
Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
Signs us up for Super League
Hires Paratici despite knowing their were investigations against him and Juve under way
Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
10 league games later sacks Nuno
Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
Doesn't back Conte
Paratici banned from football worldwide for 30 months & potentially will get a jail sentence.
Paratici released a video for the club the day before the ban was made worldwide.
AND he's still employed by our club who said they were surprised his ban was extended worldwide.
Sacked Conte and we are the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
Replaced Conte with his no.2 whose only managerial role lasted 5 months in 2017. Also kept on same full backroom team which appears to be a first in premier League.
At the end of the 2022/23 season temporary/ interim managers will have been in charge for 9% of all games since ENIC became majority owners.

One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free
 
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yankspurs

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Post in thread 'The ousting of Daniel Levy' https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-ousting-of-daniel-levy.151927/post-8284137

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:
Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
First club to go two windows with no signings
Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
Sacks Poch
Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
Signs us up for Super League
Hires Paratici (see below)
Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
10 league games later sacks Nuno
Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
Doesn't back Conte
Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
Sacked Conte and we are the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
Replaced Conte with his no.2 whose only managerial role lasted 5 months in 2017. Also kept on same full backroom team which appears to be a first in premier League.
At the end of the 2022/23 season temporary/ interim managers will have been in charge for 9% of all games since ENIC became majority owners.

One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free
Dont forget announcing concerts without the license to do so, a sponsorship with a nation state that went up in smoke in less than a week & still no naming rights. Excellent businessman though, apparently.

There’s also the high potential of some of our players being banned for a bit thanks to his lack of due diligence & refusal to listen to anyone on his solo run appointing said alleged criminal.
 

sidford

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Dont forget announcing concerts without the license to do so, a sponsorship with a nation state that went up in smoke in less than a week & still no naming rights. Excellent businessman though, apparently.

There’s also the high potential of some of our players being banned for a bit thanks to his lack of due diligence & refusal to listen to anyone on his solo run appointing said alleged criminal.
Can't believe I'm going to stick up for levy here but we didn't announce the failed south African sponsorship that wasn't us, from what I have read neither Deki & Rodrigo are potentially facing a ban as they didn't appear to have side contracts and yea fair about the naming rights however the bottom fell out of that market it's extremely tough to get any sort of naming rights deal
 

Ghost Hardware

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Aug 31, 2012
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Post in thread 'The ousting of Daniel Levy' https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-ousting-of-daniel-levy.151927/post-8284137

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:
Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
First club to go two windows with no signings
Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
Sacks Poch
Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
Signs us up for Super League
Hires Paratici (see below)
Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
10 league games later sacks Nuno
Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
Doesn't back Conte
Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
Sacked Conte and we are the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
Replaced Conte with his no.2 whose only managerial role lasted 5 months in 2017. Also kept on same full backroom team which appears to be a first in premier League.
At the end of the 2022/23 season temporary/ interim managers will have been in charge for 9% of all games since ENIC became majority owners.

One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free
You should add that Paratici is now banned In Europe yet is still employed by the club thus resulting in us having a DoF in name only during which point we are on the hunt for our 7th manager in 5 years (If you include interims).

Yet despite all that there is 0% chance he is relieved of his duties. I honestly would be curious to know what it would take for him to be moved on by Lewis. I can only assume it would be to do with a significant loss in earnings. The success or failure of Spurs football team I’m sure has very little bearing.
 

Rosco1984

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Aug 31, 2012
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You should add that Paratici is now banned In Europe yet is still employed by the club thus resulting in us having a DoF in name only during which point we are on the hunt for our 7th manager in 5 years (If you include interims).

Yet despite all that there is 0% chance he is relieved of his duties. I honestly would be curious to know what it would take for him to be moved on by Lewis. I can only assume it would be to do with a significant loss in earnings. The success or failure of Spurs football team I’m sure has very little bearing.
its not like he is just an employee its far more complicated than moving him on. He owns a huge chunk of the clubs shares. The only way he goes anywhere is if he doesn't feel himself like his position is tenable and lets be honest he doesn't care less what we think he just keeps getting richer.
 

Trix

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Jul 29, 2004
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Happy? I can absoltuely confirm that I am 100% not happy. I was fuming last night and I still am this morning.

60,000 fans singing ENIC out is not going to change anything and will just add to the toxicity surrounding the club at the moment and make us more of a laughing stock.

People have made Levy into this bogeyman who is the root of all our problems. If you look at the facts he has transformed us as a club. Lot of positives and a few key ****-ups thyat have held us back but the way fans go on you would swear it is an inside job to destroy our club.

For the record. Key mistakes in the 20 year tenure:

* Not backing Poch in the transfer market - Disapointing but we had the stadium to pay for. In the long run, the stadium is important like it or not
* Sacking Poch - Many fans at the time were on board with this. People forget how bad it got
* Appointing Nuno - Major ****-up. Quickly realised and was quick to appoint Conte who fans were delighted with
* Appointing Stellini - Mistake imo but it's only for a few weeks

Am I missing anything? Hindsight is a great thing. To my mind these were all mistakes but at the time you could see the arguments. I'm not a Levy fan boy by any means but people need to get some ***in perspective.
Yes the point, but then you are not alone.
 

Rosco1984

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The tennis ball idea is a really good idea especially if they all said Levy out, Enic out and it would be funny seeing people trying to remove 10's of thousands of tennis balls from the pitch but how can you organise something on that scale and even if you could how do you do it in a way that the club wouldn't be aware and search everyone for tennis balls on the way in.
 

alfie103

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The tennis ball idea is a really good idea especially if they all said Levy out, Enic out and it would be funny seeing people trying to remove 10's of thousands of tennis balls from the pitch but how can you organise something on that scale and even if you could how do you do it in a way that the club wouldn't be aware and search everyone for tennis balls on the way in.

Wouldn't shock me if the club read this and decided to sell tennis balls to fans to make a few quid.
 

cliff jones

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Aug 31, 2012
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Happy? I can absoltuely confirm that I am 100% not happy. I was fuming last night and I still am this morning.

60,000 fans singing ENIC out is not going to change anything and will just add to the toxicity surrounding the club at the moment and make us more of a laughing stock.

People have made Levy into this bogeyman who is the root of all our problems. If you look at the facts he has transformed us as a club. Lot of positives and a few key ****-ups thyat have held us back but the way fans go on you would swear it is an inside job to destroy our club.

For the record. Key mistakes in the 20 year tenure:

* Not backing Poch in the transfer market - Disapointing but we had the stadium to pay for. In the long run, the stadium is important like it or not
* Sacking Poch - Many fans at the time were on board with this. People forget how bad it got
* Appointing Nuno - Major ****-up. Quickly realised and was quick to appoint Conte who fans were delighted with
* Appointing Stellini - Mistake imo but it's only for a few weeks

Am I missing anything? Hindsight is a great thing. To my mind these were all mistakes but at the time you could see the arguments. I'm not a Levy fan boy by any means but people need to get some ***in perspective.
Yeah you’re missing the other 17 years or so
 

dude573

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Aug 31, 2012
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We're in a tricky position because while a few national journos have recognised the need for Levy to leave, big name pundits on the biggest UK sports Channel, Sky, just can't understand our plight.

Carragher and Neville are probably the two most watched pundits in the country and I do think they do a great job. However, last night and on so many previous occasions they just fail to recognise why we're complaining. They still talk about Spurs as if we're a plucky underdog punching above our weight or as if we should be grateful to be be where we are.

There was even a graphic showing our positions before Levy took over us to where we're now. Granted, Levy/Enic/Lewis have helped us progress. However, that graphic ignored all the context of fired managers, failed opportunities to capitalise, changing styles of play each season, lack of strategies and now a director football debacle that would get anyone else fired.

Under Levy we have only ever extended a managers contract once. Our consistency in the Champions League also came from Poch working miracles with players already at the club.

We pay the most expensive season ticket in Europe - there're reports that these prices may also increase. We have every right to demand more from our owners. We have every right to want to get our moneys worth watching good play or a trophy winning team on the pitch.

Levy is part protected because our protests are continuously trivialised by pundits who can't imagine Spurs being anything more then what we are now.
 
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