The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[Mattspur]

Maybe, but the fact that Conte wouldn’t sign a new contract tells you all you need to know.

Maybe he hasn't been offered one? He's not exactly pulling up trees on the pitch and Levy has a 1 year option he can exercise whenever he wants. I think the fact he hasn't used that option says more about the situation than Conte not signing a new contract does.

 

[floydiohead]

The Great Con of Tottenham Hotspur - World of Hotspur

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This is a very good article that sums my feelings up well.

 

[olliec]

I think everyone should read this article as it’s a cold hard wake up call. Oh, and this pic epitomises everything.

The Great Con of Tottenham Hotspur - World of Hotspur

Share This: As fans’ restlessness and unease grows, Tottenham’s ownership seems primed to double down on their failed policies of the past 22 years. And while some may perceive Tottenham’s chronic malaise as neglect, or ineptitude, a closer look reveals far worse; everything is going exactly...

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[legion]

The Great Con of Tottenham Hotspur - World of Hotspur

Share This: As fans’ restlessness and unease grows, Tottenham’s ownership seems primed to double down on their failed policies of the past 22 years. And while some may perceive Tottenham’s chronic malaise as neglect, or ineptitude, a closer look reveals far worse; everything is going exactly...

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Honestly think most of that reads like a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Awfully written hyperbolic garbage.

That World of Hotspur guy is an absolute dickhead too over on Twitter.

 

[olliec]

Honestly think most of that reads like a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Awfully written hyperbolic garbage.

That World of Hotspur guy is an absolute dickhead too over on Twitter.

But how is it garbage, would love to see you back up your argument.

 

[chas vs dave]

But how is it garbage, would love to see you back up your argument.

Perhaps go back 2 or 3 pages where people have eloquently taken this article apart.

You do realise this is the 4th, or 5th time someone has shared this nonsense article.

 

[olliec]

Perhaps go back 2 or 3 pages where people have eloquently taken this article apart.

You do realise this is the 4th, or 5th time someone has shared this nonsense article.

So the direct quotes about him
Buying Tottenham purely for financial and no passion. Are we just going to ignore this? Why don’t you take your head out of your ass and wake up the reality. 15+ years without a trophy. Top managers who cant win anything. Starting players like Dier and Davies. None of our managers have been fully backed!

 

[SUIYHA]

I think everyone should read this article as it’s a cold hard wake up call. Oh, and this pic epitomises everything.

The Great Con of Tottenham Hotspur - World of Hotspur

Share This: As fans’ restlessness and unease grows, Tottenham’s ownership seems primed to double down on their failed policies of the past 22 years. And while some may perceive Tottenham’s chronic malaise as neglect, or ineptitude, a closer look reveals far worse; everything is going exactly...

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Not that Levy is in my good books right now, but I'm almost certain this is a fake quote and yet people see this kind of thing on the internet and re-share it anyway. And I agree with the poster above that compared that World of Hotspur article to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - it's hysterical rambling that completely overlooks/ignores important context whilst referencing certain "events" that may or may not have happened as gospel.

So to answer the original question - one thing people could really start doing if they want change is to actually focus on truths and facts when it comes to Levy bashing, not fabricating stories just to try and "prove" that he's a bad fit for the club, as this just kills credibility to the arguments against him.

 

[olliec]

Not that Levy is in my good books right now, but I'm almost certain this is a fake quote and yet people see this kind of thing on the internet and re-share it anyway. And I agree with the poster above that compared that World of Hotspur article to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - it's hysterical rambling that completely overlooks/ignores important context whilst referencing certain "events" that may or may not have happened as gospel.

So to answer the original question - one thing people could really start doing if they want change is to actually focus on truths and facts when it comes to Levy bashing, not fabricating stories just to try and "prove" that he's a bad fit for the club, as this just kills credibility to the arguments against him.

Not sure if the quotes are fake, but we do know levy is the the highest paid chairman in the pl. why is this? Surely if it’s all about the club why does he take such a big chunk himself.

 

[Trent Crimm]

Not sure if the quotes are fake, but we do know levy is the the highest paid chairman in the pl. why is this? Surely if it’s all about the club why does he take such a big chunk himself.

Electrolysis, tanning and gold bracelets.

 

[legion]

So the direct quotes about him
Buying Tottenham purely for financial and no passion. Are we just going to ignore this? Why don’t you take your head out of your ass and wake up the reality. 15+ years without a trophy. Top managers who cant win anything. Starting players like Dier and Davies. None of our managers have been fully backed!

Not a fan of Levy at all and I agree with most of the critisisms made on this forum, but the article itself is garbage and full of nonsense like "Levy is a totalitarian dictator" lmao. Please articulate your arguments in a way that doesn't make you sound like a street corner doomsday preacher

 

[only1waddle]

Not sure if the quotes are fake, but we do know levy is the the highest paid chairman in the pl. why is this? Surely if it’s all about the club why does he take such a big chunk himself.

He owns 30% of the club, I'm not bothered if he takes that amount as an owner, he's entitled to do so, what most of us are fucked off with is a lack of planning on the football side, which should have far more continuity.
The general gist is IMO correct but some of the quotes are out of context and missing a few words deliberately for theatre, I'm not keen on the deranged parasite stuff towards the end either, I'm guessing the bottle was nearly finished.

 

[SUIYHA]

Not sure if the quotes are fake, but we do know levy is the the highest paid chairman in the pl. why is this? Surely if it’s all about the club why does he take such a big chunk himself.

You're proving my point - we don't "know" that Levy is the highest paid chairman in the league. It was widely reported that Ed Woodward was paid more than him (so I assume Arnold does), as does Ferran Soriano. By all means criticise his decision making, but the point is don't base the criticism around falsehoods that can easily be corrected with a simple Google search.

For the record - I don't see why the CEO of a big business shouldn't be paid a salary, it's a job after all, and the amount he is paid is hardly enough to pay a transfer fee or change the club's strategy even if he did work for free every year...

 

[Trent Crimm]

You're proving my point - we don't "know" that Levy is the highest paid chairman in the league. It was widely reported that Ed Woodward was paid more than him (so I assume Arnold does), as does Ferran Soriano. By all means criticise his decision making, but the point is don't base the criticism around falsehoods that can easily be corrected with a simple Google search.

For the record - I don't see why the CEO of a big business shouldn't be paid a salary, it's a job after all, and the amount he is paid is hardly enough to pay a transfer fee or change the club's strategy even if he did work for free every year...

It’s public record he’s the highest paid.has been for years. Read the accounts.

And most CEO’s are paid (highly I agree) on some sort of success or target. Pissing off most of your customer (unit) base, overseeing a late and over budget stadium whilst not rebuilding the squad (repeatedly) are not what I would call reasons for being so highly paid/rewarded.

 

[olliec]

You're proving my point - we don't "know" that Levy is the highest paid chairman in the league. It was widely reported that Ed Woodward was paid more than him (so I assume Arnold does), as does Ferran Soriano. By all means criticise his decision making, but the point is don't base the criticism around falsehoods that can easily be corrected with a simple Google search.

For the record - I don't see why the CEO of a big business shouldn't be paid a salary, it's a job after all, and the amount he is paid is hardly enough to pay a transfer fee or change the club's strategy even if he did work for free every year...

Ed Woodward is gone, so look who comes in at no 2.

“The 58-year-old ranked as the highest-paid Premier League executive last year, earning a £4m salary and pocketing a £3m bonus for overseeing the construction and opening of Spurs' new stadium.”

 

[ultimateloner]

The wider issue is vision on the pitch. Currently it doesn’t make much sense, we are neither one thing or the other. I agree with patience but patience only works with a plan. ENIC/Levy have not demonstrated a long term plan for the football, what is our identity, nobody knows.

A back Conte, spend the money to build him a world class squad and do it properly, no cheap buys. Get big investment if needed.

B sack Conte, buy cheaper younger players and build with a Pochettino style developer with high energy attacking football.

Club needs to decide what we are, what is our philosophy. Who are we, the ownership, manager and players currently look a mishmash. That is what more than anything else needs to change. That I think is where ENIC have lost the fans, we don’t know the goals anymore.

I don't think he has the option of plan B. If he had hired Potter and we did a Chelsea fans will be truly calling for his head.

I think he is greedy and wants plan A with suboptimal quality. It's unlikely to happen.

I think DL has already decided that we will continue to be on the fringes of CL, so aiming for 4th to 7th place.

 

[SUIYHA]

It’s public record he’s the highest paid.has been for years. Read the accounts.

And most CEO’s are paid (highly I agree) on some sort of success or target. Pissing off most of your customer (unit) base, overseeing a late and over budget stadium whilst not rebuilding the squad (repeatedly) are not what I would call reasons for being so highly paid/rewarded.

Again, not true. Another poster called this out here - https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/in...ng-of-daniel-levy.151927/page-15#post-8209740

We could have a long discussion about the ethics of CEOs being paid what they are - I've got strong opinions on that kind of thing and it's not even like I'm inclined to stand up for Levy himself right now. But if I were to address your point, his salary will be based around the fact that he's one of the longest serving chairmen in the country and the business has grown significantly during his time in charge so his salary has grown with it. It's not like his salary is preventing the club from strengthening, you can argue that the man himself is preventing the club from strengthening but again - if he worked for free it would hardly make a difference...

 

[Trent Crimm]

Again, not true. Another poster called this out here - https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/in...ng-of-daniel-levy.151927/page-15#post-8209740

We could have a long discussion about the ethics of CEOs being paid what they are - I've got strong opinions on that kind of thing and it's not even like I'm inclined to stand up for Levy himself right now. But if I were to address your point, his salary will be based around the fact that he's one of the longest serving chairmen in the country and the business has grown significantly during his time in charge so his salary has grown with it. It's not like his salary is preventing the club from strengthening, you can argue that the man himself is preventing the club from strengthening but again - if he worked for free it would hardly make a difference...

Lol. I know how salaries work. Thanks.

 

[ultimateloner]

You'll get pelters but this is a fair objective view. The problem is football fans aren't objective and for very good reason.

Enic don't take dividends out of spurs (as yet). All the "profits" remain in the club. The issue is that whether those profits will be used to pay down stadium/infrastructure debt or used on player acquisition/speculation.

I have no idea how the funds will be used.
All i know is that if we recklessly over-spend we risk multiple Ndoms, or we will do a Leicester. We could win PL and then become mid-table the following season.
I think treading water is better than a steep drop. Once you falter, the climb is long and hard.

 

[ultimateloner]

Bro, 1 cup in 20+ years and we're still playing Ben Davies and Eric Dier after almost 9 years of failure. Everything is moot. The bald tyrant has to go.

Our recruitment is hit and miss. I dont think DL should take the full blame for that. He decides on the money (and the deal) but he doesn't identify targets.