The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[Archibald&Crooks]

It’s very easy to criticise with the power of hindsight.

That's me off the hindsight hook then. I've been banging the drum for a long time now, even when people were calling for a statue of him to be put up outside the ground

 

[cookiemonster]

That's me off the hindsight hook then. I've been banging the drum for a long time now, even when people were calling for a statue of him to be put up outside the ground

Me too

 

[g_harry]

Get him out ASAP.

 

[rossdapep]

A genuine ambitious owner or footballing man would be holding these players to standards.

For example, Eric Dier would be on my list as someone we'd look to upgrade/get rid.

Yet we have talk he's getting a new contract??

That would never have happened under Abramovich for example. Im not even sure Arsenal would do that.

Woodward did that with Phil Jones to much uproar..

A player that is synonymous with our inability to push on but is treated like part of the furniture.

Im all for keeping players around who are good pros but they have to offer something and they can't really represent previous failures.

Ashley Young, Chris Smalling were dependable players for United when they had Fergie and a winning team.

The minute United went off the boil, players like these became a liability and no longer good squad options.

In a team of winners, they compliment the better players. The minute the team fades you need to get rid of them.

Levy doesn't have the footballing intelligence to understand that.

There's probably also the money aspect to it in that he thinks he doesnt need to replace and spend more

 

[cookiemonster]

Buy players for sell on value than for winning trophies

Profit before glory

Get him out

 

[shelfsidespur]

A genuine ambitious owner or footballing man would be holding these players to standards.

For example, Eric Dier would be on my list as someone we'd look to upgrade/get rid.

Yet we have talk he's getting a new contract??

That would never have happened under Abramovich for example. Im not even sure Arsenal would do that.

Woodward did that with Phil Jones to much uproar..

A player that is synonymous with our inability to push on but is treated like part of the furniture.

Im all for keeping players around who are good pros but they have to offer something and they can't really represent previous failures.

Ashley Young, Chris Smalling were dependable players for United when they had Fergie and a winning team.

The minute United went off the boil, players like these became a liability and no longer good squad options.

In a team of winners, they compliment the better players. The minute the team fades you need to get rid of them.

Levy doesn't have the footballing intelligence to understand that.

There's probably also the money aspect to it in that he thinks he doesnt need to replace and spend more

So this unambitious owner, who has so far delivered possibly the best football and multi use stadium in the world hasn't got at the football intelligence to understand that once a team fades you need get rid of them, perhaps you are right and perhaps that's why he has a DoF. Intelligent businessmen know what they don't know. As to not spending, if the Club had spent more on players that fitted Conte's thinking , what would Levy have to do now - replace them all to accommodate an incoming manager's style. The magic money tree again ! Always the easy answer but as someone that has been responsible for providing very large amounts to funding a large number of projects (and getting repaid) I can safely that's usually when it all goes wrong.

My support for the team dates back to the late 50's with newspaper cuttings and photo on boards in my room. I can recall the feeling of the "Glory Days" There have been bad days, of course, but I support MY TEAM, through thick and thin. Does anyone really think it will have a positive effect on the team -both during a match and in the long term-to constantly boo and chant anti-Levy slogans ?

 

[cliff jones]

I supported my TEAM like you did but there was still a time under Sugar where enough was enough.

We have no identity, strategy or plan beyond property development. How much more evidence will it take, to realise we’re being mugged off?

Do you pay the silly fkin prices of admission to watch the mid table quality we have across half the team?

 

[BujuBanton]

So this unambitious owner, who has so far delivered possibly the best football and multi use stadium in the world hasn't got at the football intelligence to understand that once a team fades you need get rid of them, perhaps you are right and perhaps that's why he has a DoF. Intelligent businessmen know what they don't know. As to not spending, if the Club had spent more on players that fitted Conte's thinking , what would Levy have to do now - replace them all to accommodate an incoming manager's style. The magic money tree again ! Always the easy answer but as someone that has been responsible for providing very large amounts to funding a large number of projects (and getting repaid) I can safely that's usually when it all goes wrong.

My support for the team dates back to the late 50's with newspaper cuttings and photo on boards in my room. I can recall the feeling of the "Glory Days" There have been bad days, of course, but I support MY TEAM, through thick and thin. Does anyone really think it will have a positive effect on the team -both during a match and in the long term-to constantly boo and chant anti-Levy slogans ?

Does the way the club is run have a positive effect? Id say the evidence on that is clear.

levy out chants are long overdue.

and nothing personal, but im so tired of people banging on about the ‘best multi-use stadium’. What use is it to us when the club doesnt match its status? How do you feel when non-football events are given more prominence in comms? Why does the money from these events get funnelled into a web of companies?

We’re being used for ENICs gain

 

[EastLondonYid]

Everything at the moment feels broken.
The team.
Boring football
Conte.
Paratici.
The atmosphere in the stadium
Zero trophies
Go karts.
Hotels.

Scum winning the league.

It's a shit time to be a fan even sitting in fourth.

 

[kursaal]

Yesterday, in their televised game at Motherwell, Glasgow Rangers had huge banners with Time for Change and the face of the chairman. They also had many smaller fold open cards with the same message and face on. The cameras focused in on these. That's similar to what we need to do. If they won't allow banners into our ground, the away support can do it. This is a perfect time to put pressure on Levy and Lewis & others.

 

[kursaal]

Everything at the moment feels broken.
The team.
Boring football
Conte.
Paratici.
The atmosphere in the stadium
Zero trophies
Go karts.
Hotels.

Scum winning the league.

It's a shit time to be a fan even sitting in fourth.

Can you see a change in chairmanship.or outside investment?

 

[g_harry]

Can you see a change in chairmanship.or outside investment?

Even if he would step away from football side of things would be a help. He is too involved in player side. The Amazon doc showed that, when Rose felt he could say to Jose 'wait it Daniel hears about this'. That doesn't happen in top club were Manager is king.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Even if he would step away from football side of things would be a help. He is too involved in player side. The Amazon doc showed that, when Rose felt he could say to Jose 'wait it Daniel hears about this'. That doesn't happen in top club were Manager is king.

Exactly

 

[Clockspur]

Would love to shit in his hat and make him wear it

 

[Dakes]

It's just tiring now. Don't know what it'll take, but this can't continue a minute longer. This man should have no business with the footballing side of the club.

This treading water in the world of football is tiresome.

Be either hot or cold, no more of this lukewarm rubbish.

 

[kursaal]

Would love to shit in his hat and make him wear it

He'd try to flog it to some old dear for manure for her roses.

 

[Martinhotspur]

Buy players for sell on value than for winning trophies

Profit before glory

Get him out

If that is the plan, I am struggling to think of any of theses players that have been sold on for profit.

 

[Hotspur33]

A genuine ambitious owner or footballing man would be holding these players to standards.

For example, Eric Dier would be on my list as someone we'd look to upgrade/get rid.

Yet we have talk he's getting a new contract??

That would never have happened under Abramovich for example. Im not even sure Arsenal would do that.

Woodward did that with Phil Jones to much uproar..

A player that is synonymous with our inability to push on but is treated like part of the furniture.

Im all for keeping players around who are good pros but they have to offer something and they can't really represent previous failures.

Ashley Young, Chris Smalling were dependable players for United when they had Fergie and a winning team.

The minute United went off the boil, players like these became a liability and no longer good squad options.

In a team of winners, they compliment the better players. The minute the team fades you need to get rid of them.

Levy doesn't have the footballing intelligence to understand that.

There's probably also the money aspect to it in that he thinks he doesnt need to replace and spend more

So do you want Levy involved in football matters or not?

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Fundamentally no matter who the next manager is does anyone really still think after 23 years ENIC will turn us into winners.

We will have all the usual smoke and mirrors from the inevitable Levy PR flogging and fogging exercise after his latest failure as he turns to yet another new direction but really we all know our best hope of being winners isn’t having the next Pep or even Kane but simply having new owners.

If that is the plan, I am struggling to think of any of theses players that have been sold on for profit.

At this point don’t think anyone knows what his plan is other that it continues to fail. He clearly interferes too much in which players we sign, it’s been the same for 23 years, managers still getting players thrown on them that they don’t want or need but often missing out their top choices. Then the inevitable failure.

Perplexing that they can be so efficient off the pitch yet the complete opposite on it, almost like that isn’t their primary focus to win things…

 

[sidford]

Think it's just worth pointing a few bits out because genuinely it's that laughable that sometimes it's seems like its actually not real:

• Pissed Poch off that much with lack of backing that he won't accept any signing in 2 consecutive transfer windows.
• First club to go two windows with no signings
• Overruled Poch on the sale of players including dele & ended up costing the club tens of millions
• Sacks Poch
• Appoints Jose & doesn't back him
• Sacks him 4 days before a final & we remain only club since União de Leiria in 2001 that he hasn't won anything with
• Signs us up for Super League
• Hires Paratici (see below)
• Spends 10 weeks trying to replace Jose
• During that period does a rare interview and talks about DNA of club and learning from mistakes
• Appoints Nuno with less than 2 weeks to go before preseason
• 10 league games later sacks Nuno
• Goes on a solo run and appoints Conte.
• Doesn't back Conte
• Paratici banned from Italian football for 30 months and is realistically going to get banned worldwide & potentially a jail sentence
• About to sack Conte and we'll be the first club since Sienna in 2011 where he hasn't won anything (see Jose comment up above)
• One of the clubs best ever players, if not the best, has 12 months remaining on deal and won't sign a new one so Levy has a choice this summer of selling him to a bigger club in premier League or letting him leave on a free

It's some litany of failures and bad decisions I don't know whether to laugh or cry

Got a new one after yesterday:
Not sacking Conte after he was basically begging for the sack in a press conference when he went after all the players