The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Gb160]

That gif is brilliant!

It was a toss up between that gif, or this meme...

Im calling Lighty 'Chemical Lighty' from now on.

 

[McFlash]

And yet:


It should be clear that he's been paying the press nothing but lip service for ages now.
"Are you going to such and such?"
"Sure, why not?"

Shuts down the questions, he's still here, and somehow grown men are still getting upset over an arbitrary question from a parasitic Spanish vulture. Seagulls and Trawlers.

If anything gets him pissed off to the point that he wants to leave, it'll be that after all this time, and all he's done, he's still getting these tedious questions, and Spurs fans will still doubt him.

He has more than enough credit in the bank.

I like your post and your point.
But I feel like he's burning through his credit pretty quickly at the mo.

 

[Lighty64]

How about no Premier league away wins since Jan son ? So no, it’s not just fucking Newcastle. The teams an absolute mess.

how about thinking why we struggled with away fixtures and didn't exactly play well most of the season. we played 59 fixtures last season, playing twice a week every week, and when you have injuries and playing with knocks, and suffering from burnout physically and mentally then you will struggle. on top of that, you also require some luck

Burnley 1 of those away games we conceded a goal from a corner, that should have been a goal kick. Burnley where playing 1 game a week every week, we were playing 2. our bad away form started v them. we lost our last 6 away games 3 of those games where against the 3 teams that finished about us, the other 2 games were Southampton which we should have been out of sight by halftime, is it Poch's fault that Kane failed to score 3 good chances? was it Poch's fought that Rose let the ball go through his legs for the equaliser? was it Poch's fought that the Southampton winning goal came from a free-kick taken around 5 yards closer than the actual foul? the other was a game we held out until the 95th minute with 9 men.

take into account the info below, and a bit of thought instead of knee jerking it, and you might understand the reasons why we struggled last season from February, or does say 1 extra month like the press make it sound better

why will we?

Toby, and Eriksen won't be with us, no guarantee they will be replaced with a European player. Rose might be gone and if Poch gets Sess sorted in that position, and Wales fail Davies won't be playing. at the moment Dier won't make the squad, and Alli might not play much if he does

Gazzaniga, Foyth, KWP, GLC, Lamela, and Son.

our best team prior to the world cup, didn't play together as much after

Lloris - France played in the WC (played 36 PL, 7 CL, 2017/18, played 33 PL, 11 CL, 2018/19 total = 87 matches)


Trippier - England " " " ". (played 27 PL, 3 CL, 2 EFL, 6 FA Cup 2017/18, played 24 PL, 8 CL, 2 EFL, 1 FA Cup 2018/19 total = 73 matches)

Toby - Belgium " " " " (played 14 PL, 4 CL, 1 EFL, 2 FA Cup 2017/18, played 34 PL, 12 CL, 4 EFL, 2018/19 total = 71 matches)

Jan - Belgium " " " " (played 36 PL, 6 CL, 1 EFL, 4 FA Cup 2017/18, played 22 PL, 10 CL, 1 EFL, 1 FA Cup 2018/19 total = 81 matches)

Rose - England " " " " (played 10 PL, 3 CL, 1 EFL, 3 FA Cup 2017/18, played 26 PL, 8 CL, 3 EFL, 2018/19 total = 54 matches)


Dier - England " " " " (played 34 PL, 7 CL, 2 EFL, 4 FA Cup 2017/18, played 20 PL, 6 CL, 1 EFL, 1 FA Cup 2018/19 total = 75 matches)

Dembélé - represented Belgium (played 28 PL, 6 CL, 2 EFL, 4 FA Cup 2017/18, played 10 PL, 2 CL, 1 EFL, 2018/19 total = 53 matches)


Son - - South Korea played in the WC the Asia Cup, and Asia games, also played in the pre season tournament (played 37 PL, 7 CL, 2 EFL, 7 FA Cup 2017/18, played 31 PL, 12 CL, 4 EFL, 1 FA Cup 2018/19 total = 101 matches)

Alli - England played in the WC (played 36 PL, 5 CL, 2 EFL, 7 FA Cup 2017/18, played 25 PL, 8 CL, 4 EFL, 1 FA Cup 2018/19 total = 87 matches))

Eriksen - Denmark " " " ", also played in the pre season tournament (played 37 PL, 6 CL, 1 EFL, 3 FA Cup 2017/18, played 35 PL, 12 CL, 4 EFL, 2018/19 total = 98 matches)

Kane - England " " " " (played 37 PL, 7 CL, 4 FA Cup 2017/18, played 28 PL, 9 CL, 2 EFL, 1 FA Cup 2018/19 total = 88 matches)

subs
Sanchez - Columbia " " " ", also played in the pre season tournament (played 31 PL, 8 CL, 2 FA Cup 2017/18, played 23 PL, 8 CL, 4 EFL, 2 FA Cup 2018/19 total = 78 matches)

the above doesn't include matches played for their countries in both seasons and including the WC itself. next season I don't expect 3-4 players to be here that might play in the Euro's

 

[Lighty64]

If you watch the second goal again you will see he didn't even put a foot out to block the ball. I can bet my last dollar that Sissoko would of thrown himself at the ball and blocked the shot So yes I do blame him for the second goal

just watched it again, he might have been guilty of not launching himself in front in hope, but it wasn't as simple as just trying to put a block in. Had Sissoko not already been booked and possibly 1 foul away from a red, then still no guarantee Sissoko would have been in the same place

 

[McFlash]

I've said it before, if we got the original Chelsea Mourinho, then ok.
If we got the embarrassing, miserable Man United version, then hell no!

As others have said, let's see what Poch can do over the next few league games before making judgement. But, he needs to keep quiet and stop with the bizarre tactics.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

He should have the rest of the season to figure it out....... but 4 wins from 16 league games (is it 16 now?) is genuine crisis form for a squad of our quality.

We have literally been in relegation form for almost half a season now, and it doesn't look to be getting any better.

 

[Gb160]

He should have the rest of the season to figure it out....... but 4 wins from 16 league games (is it 16 now?) is genuine crisis form for a squad of our quality.

We have literally been in relegation form for almost half a season now, and it doesn't look to be getting any better.

Careful mate or Chemical Lighty will attack you for being a knee jerky bedwetter.
One bad result apparently.

 

[Lighty64]

Yes I know but I'm jesting because one it's ridiculous that it hasn't been addressed and two because I'm trying to inject some humour to break up the gloomy feeling.

Dier had to have surgery to fix a problem just before the season started. Poch never knew he was going to be without a DCM

 

[kaz Hirai]

He should have the rest of the season to figure it out....... but 4 wins from 16 league games (is it 16 now?) is genuine crisis form for a squad of our quality.

We have literally been in relegation form for almost half a season now, and it doesn't look to be getting any better.

I think spurs supporters dangerously over rate the squad.

The fact no one showed any real interest in any of them even with all the winding down of contracts and out right seeking moves is eye opening.
Outside of Harry Kane would any top club spend any kind of big money on one of our players I doubt it!
Our best full back only had Watford interested

Be mindful that it isn't the coach in fact making a collection of so so players over perform for the last 5 years

 

[shelfboy68]

Dier had to have surgery to fix a problem just before the season started. Poch never knew he was going to be without a DCM

Come on mate are you on the payroll now you are getting worse on the excuse front.

 

[McFlash]

I think spurs supporters dangerously over rate the squad.

The fact no one showed any real interest in any of them even with all the winding down of contracts and out right seeking moves is eye opening.
Outside of Harry Kane would any top club spend any kind of big money on one of our players I doubt it!
Our best full back only had Watford interested

Be mindful that it isn't the coach in fact making a collection of so so players over perform for the last 5 years

Not sure about that mate.
Sure, there's bound to be a bit of biased thinking but most of our players are internationals, whilst being highly praised by pundits and others managers too.
You cant judge a players ability by transfer market conditions, I mean we very nearly sold Wanyama - possibly our least saleable asset.

 

[wrd]

Exactly. It’s problematic right now because even though we’ve had such a terrible run of away results (and results generally) since the turn of the year, we also have the possibility that this has been addressed and that perhaps what happened at Leicester was actually an outlier, rather than indication of a continuation of that terrible form. Each possibility suggests different situations. Until we have more info, we’re very much still in the dark.

Unfortunately we've had a couple of these sliding door moments which would have greatly eased the tension with the Bournemouth debacle and now the Leicester game.

 

[Lighty64]

Come on mate are you on the payroll now you are getting worse on the excuse front.

no I saw the news that Dier had to have correction surgery on a previous problem.

*I apologise he had that pre-season

Edit: @shelfboy68 I did apologise and I still mean it, but because he was having an operation and was going to be sidelined I can't imagine we would of gone out and signed a replacement if it meant he wasn't going to be out injured long term. Perhaps we should of signed someone in place of Wanyama if Poch isn't ready to fully commit to Skipp just yet

 

[Gb160]

Come on mate are you on the payroll now you are getting worse on the excuse front.

@Goebbels64

 

[mickdale]

The fact no one showed any real interest in any of them even with all the winding down of contracts and out right seeking moves is eye opening.

Trippier...Athletico Madrid...

 

[The Doc]

This is all quite amusing (in places) but....... I seem to recall the idea was that we would go into the new stadium in a position to compete.

For the top 4.

Not the PL itself. Now, I appreciate objectives move in line with progress, but maybe it's us (well, you lot. Yes, it's definitely you lot) that need to adjust expectations a little bit?

* runs away. Hides.

 

[wrd]

I think this is a good point, and is why last weekend was so frustrating. Had we won that game 2-0 everything would be seen as 'back on track' and the poor form from the end of last season will have been written off, instead it's now front and centre. Small margins. I personally thought we played well in a tricky away game and felt like we were going to win the game until the VAR decision. That and some weak finishing cost us from sitting pretty in third.

I am worried about harmony in the camp and Poch's mentality as much as others but a nice run of results could get everyone back on track. Hopefully this can happen over the next few games.

I agree with rez that those 2/3 upcoming prem games will give us clarity on the situation, however to your point about a nice run of results, it'd be fucking awesome if we could get a performance going against Munich. It could turn everything right around. Sounds like from Trix maybe there's some tension on the training ground so Poch will need to address those issues but that Munich game could ignite our season.

 

[King of the Lane]

This is all quite amusing (in places) but....... I seem to recall the idea was that we would go into the new stadium in a position to compete.

For the top 4.

Not the PL itself. Now, I appreciate objectives move in line with progress, but maybe it's us (well, you lot. Yes, it's definitely you lot) that need to adjust expectations a little bit?

* runs away. Hides.

We were already competing and getting top 4. Surely the goal is to improve on that once you are in a brand new stadium?

 

[wrd]

This is all quite amusing (in places) but....... I seem to recall the idea was that we would go into the new stadium in a position to compete.

For the top 4.

Not the PL itself. Now, I appreciate objectives move in line with progress, but maybe it's us (well, you lot. Yes, it's definitely you lot) that need to adjust expectations a little bit?

* runs away. Hides.

As cliche as it is, Poch has become a victim of his own success and to further compound the cliches; it looks like the goalposts have been moved.

 

[The Doc]

We were already competing and getting top 4. Surely the goal is to improve on that once you are in a brand new stadium?

Yes, I covered that bit with my reference to "objectives moving in line with progress". However, the point remains. He (Poch) is way ahead of the plan. Opinion only but a lot of ingrates on here.