The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[-Afri-Coy-]

After the CL final he spoke about changing the mentality at the club. Changing how things are done and how things happen.

Levy delivered his top 4 targets this summer, oddly enough none of them were in the problem areas of RB and DM. However that's besides the point.

Change the mentality of the fans, change the mentality of the players. Have an all encompassing mentality where everyone pulls in the same direction. Except he refuses to change himself in any way. He's so stubborn it's to the detriment of the team.

Continuing to play a diamond when it must have worked twice in about 33 games.

Yes, something needs to change. That's him. He needs to change. Swallow your pride. Your system doesn't work. Change it. Do something. This has been going on for about 9 months now.

The worst thing to happen, and it sounds strange, was getting to Madrid to the CL final. It masked everything that was wrong since January. Dont get me wrong it was absolutely amazing to get there and I still have no idea how we did it. But being knocked out by Ajax might have actually helped us more in the long run.

Something has to give. Whether he walks or changes his ideas, I dont know. But it needs to happen.

Wholeheartedly agree with this. Something has to change immediately, whether that's with Poch or without but we cannot continue like this, its embarrassing.

 

[LeParisien]

Theyd certainly had beaten Colchester....

And if Pochettino had their squads he’d have done alright too.

 

[chavkev]

He needs to go. The whole place is stale. This has the last season of Dortmund under Klopp written all over it. Sometimes eras just end. I would imagine that he will stay for the Brighton game and the two parties will part ways over the international break.

 

[Monkey boy]

When even Glenn Hoddle can see that your tactics are failing miserably then you know they must be bad. We looked absolutely knackered after half an hour ironically something Hoddle said would happen due to how much energy we were expending. Did Saturday impact that aswell perhaps?

Just as the manner of victory on Saturday was the most important part the manner of defeat last night is way more damaging.

 

[Metalhead]

Doubt it.

Levy generally makes an appointment with the longer term in mind. He's not the kind that generally goes for a quick fix. Even where the manager hasn't worked out, he would not have seen them as a short term fix (Redknapp possibly aside).

 

[shelfboy68]

Totally deflated. Something needs to happen pretty damm quick to sort this mess out.

I agree sadly I think it will result in poch leaving the club within the past week we have suffered two embarrassing results for which both are not acceptable, we all lose games but it's the manner of the defeats yes Bayern are a good side but to concede seven suggests a deeper underlining issue.
The team is not a bad side otherwise it wouldn't make top four and reach semi finals and finals, but clearly all is not good at the club and sadly I think this will be the end of poch we have all seen this pattern before at our club and others.

 

[punkisback]

After the CL final he spoke about changing the mentality at the club. Changing how things are done and how things happen.

Levy delivered his top 4 targets this summer, oddly enough none of them were in the problem areas of RB and DM. However that's besides the point.

Change the mentality of the fans, change the mentality of the players. Have an all encompassing mentality where everyone pulls in the same direction. Except he refuses to change himself in any way. He's so stubborn it's to the detriment of the team.

Continuing to play a diamond when it must have worked twice in about 33 games.

Yes, something needs to change. That's him. He needs to change. Swallow your pride. Your system doesn't work. Change it. Do something. This has been going on for about 9 months now.

The worst thing to happen, and it sounds strange, was getting to Madrid to the CL final. It masked everything that was wrong since January. Dont get me wrong it was absolutely amazing to get there and I still have no idea how we did it. But being knocked out by Ajax might have actually helped us more in the long run.

Something has to give. Whether he walks or changes his ideas, I dont know. But it needs to happen.

I agree that we needed to replace the fullbacks. However we only had two fit Cms last season and this left a gaping hole! It was poor transfer management over the past few years that has got us to this level.

 

[spids]

It appears fairly clear that the players do not like Poch's team shape and tactics and it shows. Poch needs to do some serious analysis with his backroom staff (as to why the tactics are not working) and have a proper consultation with his senior players (Kane, Lloris, Jan).

Poch's options:

A. Change tactics
B. Change players
C. Leave

Levy's options:

A. Stick
B. Twist

If Poch maintains his insanity approach of trying the same thing and expecting a different outcome then Levy needs to get rid a.s.a.p.

 

[spurs mental]

I agree that we needed to replace the fullbacks. However we only had two fit Cms last season and this left a gaping hole! It was poor transfer management over the past few years that has got us to this level.

Poor transfer management because the manager felt the squad was good enough and didn't feel he could sign anyone to improve the team. Which is a laughable thought process.

 

[PeeEyeEmPee]

If I’m Levy or one of the players, I’d be sick to the back fucking teeth of the manager getting all the credit for everything that goes well, and us being blamed for when it doesn’t.

Hopefully his time is up now. That’s not to say he’s not been a very good Tottenham manager, but I just can’t get on board with this needy belief that everything goes tits-up the minute he walks out of the door. Sure Levy and the board have some responsibility, as do the players, but so also does The Great Poch. This idea that no-one else in all of world football could do any better has been repeated so many times that everyone has been fooled into believing it. It’s bollocks.

Maybe the next appointment will be the right one, and maybe it’ll be the wrong one, but that’s an entirely different conversation. The only relevant question here is has he taken us as far as his abilities allow? And at this point, I really need someone to explain to me how the answer isn’t yes.

 

[raymundo-iow]

For me this has had the avb era about it from the beginning of the season. We have been slowing play down too much, not playing with freedom, no players making any movement when we get over halfway line.

We have shown glimpses the playing squad is still capable of playing at the highest level but that is few and far between.

The entertaining exciting spurs have not been the same since the turn of 2019 and that all stems from the manager so for that reason I am in the poch out camp but thank him for all he has done for the club

 

[daveduvet]

He signed his exit papers by playing that bloody diamond again.. one would’ve thought he’d change formation at half time seeing how we were pulled all over the place first half.. from the start of the season he’s looked like he’s been chewing a wasp. Really like the man, but fresh pastures beckon.

 

[Danny1]

He has to go. It’s quite simple. I can’t imagine any other top club allowing their manager this much leeway with regards to the last 10 months of football.

We have been utterly utterly dreadful and yet he hasn’t changed a thing. All of us here can see the glaringly obvious problems and it is incredible that our manager cannot see it! For that alone he should be questioned. He is obviously still going to be in charge for the Brighton game and anything other than a win will be unacceptable and should definitely be the final nail.

 

[Gareth88]

If we get ruined by Liverpool he will be gone IMO

 

[Hakkz]

If we get ruined by Liverpool he will be gone IMO

Doesn't feel like an 'if' atm.

 

[$hoguN]

Squad aren’t playing for him, he has never shown the ability to change games with substitutions, he is setting us up in a formation that just doesn’t work, he isn’t even selecting form players. Sack him now, before we end up throwing away any chances of at CL qualification for next season and push more players to the exit door

 

[G Ron]

He has to go. It’s quite simple. I can’t imagine any other top club allowing their manager this much leeway with regards to the last 10 months of football.

We have been utterly utterly dreadful and yet he hasn’t changed a thing. All of us here can see the glaringly obvious problems and it is incredible that our manager cannot see it! For that alone he should be questioned. He is obviously still going to be in charge for the Brighton game and anything other than a win will be unacceptable and should definitely be the final nail.

Bizarrely the one change he has made is to drop Lamela all of a sudden when he’s arguably been our top performer so far this season. I’m not a huge Lamela fan but that decision in itself totally baffles me.
Combine that with the terrible diamond that everyone can clearly see isn’t working and you have to seriously question what Poch is doing.

 

[vicbob]

Bizarrely the one change he has made is to drop Lamela all of a sudden when he’s arguably been our top performer so far this season. I’m not a huge Lamela fan but that decision in itself totally baffles me.
Combine that with the terrible diamond that everyone can clearly see isn’t working and you have to seriously question what Poch is doing.

Unfortunately, not quite everyone

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Worst part is, we all know that come Saturday, it’ll be a diamond, Winks will be at the base, we will still have no width and Pochettino won’t have learnt.

One tiny tweak of making it a flat front three with two players starting either side of Kane would make all the difference but he can’t see it ?

 

[shelfboy68]

If we get ruined by Liverpool he will be gone IMO

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