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tobi

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Karun just did another breakdown with some more clips (previous incidents) and its definately a racing incident IMO.
 

WalkerboyUK

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First start to an F1 race I've watched in years and this happens :LOL:

From a non-avid F1 watcher point of view, I thought Lewis took the corner a bit wider than necessary.
No one takes that corner that way during the race normally. Would normally come in from the left, onto the apex of the corner and then back over to the left after that.
However - this was first lap where everyone’s fighting for position before it all settles down.
Could easily have gone as a racing incident, and might have done so, had it not been 200mph and basically written off Max’s car and sent him to hospital.
 

Wick3d

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Racing incident for sure, given it was the first lap and everyone is scrambling around for positional gains. Could both drivers have done more to avoid the accident? 100%.

As expected the Lewis haters are out in full force. They'll do anything to tear him down. :LOL:
 

Yid-ol

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Racing incident for sure, given it was the first lap and everyone is scrambling around for positional gains. Could both drivers have done more to avoid the accident? 100%.

As expected the Lewis haters are out in full force. They'll do anything to tear him down. :LOL:

I have only just seen it, but would agree racing incident also.

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Hamilton was going up the inside after Max had ran wide a slight bit a corner or two before, so was probably thinking he had the run on him. But max was then also just a head still, so had the line.

But looking at the pictures from a video I re watched it on Hamilton is near the inside, so couldn't really have done much else. If he had to slam on his breaks and not race at all, then we might as well make cars follow each other every race.
 

bubble07

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Surely the driver behind tends to be to blame. Max was ahead and Hamilton knew if he didn't so something drastic now max will win again
 

Wick3d

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Verstappen is probably the most consistently aggressive driver I have seen in F1 and has been lucky to not have been involved in more crashes like this more often. Gets away with similar moves all the time because other drivers know he will not back out and they concede to him.

Like Lewis said, there is not a driver on the circuit that does not know how aggressive Verstappen is and I think Hamilton is right to call it out. Live by the sword die by the sword.

As for Christian Horner, he can get fucked. The man is a scumbag. He is fantastic as a team principal though.
 

Yid-ol

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Verstappen is probably the most consistently aggressive driver I have seen in F1 and has been lucky to not have been involved in more crashes like this more often. Gets away with similar moves all the time because other drivers know he will not back out and they concede to him.

Like Lewis said, there is not a driver on the circuit that does not know how aggressive Verstappen is and I think Hamilton is right to call it out. Live by the sword die by the sword.

As for Christian Horner, he can get fucked. The man is a scumbag. He is fantastic as a team principal though.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...guese-gp-practice.3Wi0iqOXf41LFS4THylWsO.html

This was max in a practice session a few years ago. Both trying to do fast laps and max blamed stroll saying is he blind.

Think it's similar to the one today. So agree with what you said!
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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Max is overly aggressive every race, expects everyone to give way, so have little sympathy for him crying foul when it doesn’t always go his way, wick3d agree with a lot of that…
 

THFCSPURS19

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So Hamilton deliberately attempted to cause Verstappen a serious injury, and should not have celebrated a home GP in front of over 100k fans. Right...
 

MotspurHotspur

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Surely the driver behind tends to be to blame. Max was ahead and Hamilton knew if he didn't so something drastic now max will win again
Lewis had the inside and Max came across him. In other incidents both drivers have ended each other races, this time Lewis got lucky and Max ended up in the wall. Whatever, it was racing with both egos ramped up to 11.
 
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tobi

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Looking forward to the behind the scenes action in the next season of Drive to Survive.
 

bubble07

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Lewis had the inside and Max came across him. In other incidents both drivers have ended each other races, this time Lewis got lucky and Max ended up in the wall. Whatever, it was racing with both egos ramped up to 11.

Running up and down the paddock like an eejit trying to get Lewis banned is petty and says all you need to know about how desperate Red Bull Racing are. I hope Lewis goes on the make Verstappen eat his words. Full on team LH now having just wanted to previously see good racing.

He put a guy in hospital and only asked how he was when he was promted to do so
 

$hoguN

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Max is overly aggressive every race, expects everyone to give way, so have little sympathy for him crying foul when it doesn’t always go his way, wick3d agree with a lot of that…

This. Racing guidelines say Hamilton can go for it there. It was a racing incident, pretty much the whole gird other than the salty Red Bull team have said as much. Christian Horner was bang out of order with the way he acts and what he said (like demanding a penalty) when Max’s moves have resulted in the entire grid needing to avoid him.

Max Verstappen has always been overly aggressive. 3 other times this year Hamilton has had to back out of wheel to wheel action to Stop Max crashing into him. He didn’t today and Max was sent in to the wall, now he is salty. If he wants to stop driving like a **** we might listen. Until then good for Hamilton and I hope he doesn’t pull out of any more duels this year as I think Max will come off worse
 
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$hoguN

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He put a guy in hospital and only asked how he was when he was promted to do so
If you actually listen to the radio he asks if Max is ok, and gets told he is out of the car.

He was taken to hospital as a precaution later which Lewis has no reason to know.
 

$hoguN

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Also the real fun is going to come in about 3 years time when hopefully Lando, Russel and Le Clerc are all in similar quality cars as Max as none of them are going to pull out for him and sort of action is going to happen weekly
 

Gb160

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Alonso
“It is difficult from the outside,” said Alonso. “It looked quite close, Lewis had more than half a car alongside Max.
“So, in a way, Lewis could not disappear from the inside line, it’s not that you can vanish.
“It was an unfortunate moment of the race, but nothing intentional or nothing that any of the two drivers did wrong in my opinion.
“That was an unlucky moment.”
Leclerc -
“It is very difficult to judge it from the car, we are very low, so it’s difficult to see everything and it went very quickly,” he said. “I could see there was quite a bit going on in front of me.
“I think it’s a racing incident. It is quite difficult to put the blame on one or the other.
“Obviously, there was the space on the inside. Maybe Lewis was not completely at the apex, but it’s also true that Max was quite aggressive on the outside.
“Things happen but I think what is most important today is that Max is unharmed and is fine.”
 
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