The Formula 1 Thread

[Gb160]

It’s pretty telling when all the racers and team principals say it’s a racing incident.

Yes but you're forgetting it's attempted murder for one poster on here so there's that.

 

[Yid-ol]

Yes but you're forgetting it's attempted murder for one poster on here so there's that.

I never knew Verstappen or Christian Horner was signed up to here!

 

[TheBlueRooster]

If you go full speed into a tight corner, you know that you are going to run wide later on and move in on the person outside of you. That is just no way to drive into that bend. His claim that he was ahead is in this case just spurious bullshit.
And its a reckless move. They were going at very high speeds and he willingly took the risk he would career into a competitor. He did the same to Leclerc later on btw. Shame on Hamilton. A suspension is definitely in order.

I think basically you have listened to what Mr Halliwel has said and paraphrased him. Someone who is now the most successful driver in F1 of all time is a fraud? Attempted murder? Have a word with yourself.

 

[Shadydan]

Redbull were extremely bitter weren't they, I think it's all fair - I've seen Max pull of some really dangerous moves and no doubt if the roles were reversed he'd be saying the opposite, just gotta suck it up and stop being salty.

 

[Shadydan]

Hamilton has exposed himself as a complete fraud, with all his high moral posturing and what have you. If he can't beat his competitor, he rams him of the track just like Schumacher used to do.
That was almost an attempt at murder. Verstappen suffered 51G on impact - it's a miracle his brain is still intact. A Black Flag would have been the only fitting penalty.

This post is giving me Van Persie/Ferguson vibes.

 

[sherbornespurs]

Redbull were extremely bitter weren't they, I think it's all fair - I've seen Max pull of some really dangerous moves and no doubt if the roles were reversed he'd be saying the opposite, just gotta suck it up and stop being salty.

This pretty much sums up my view of the incident and reminds me of Ricky Hatton's after-fight comments when he lost to Floyd Mayweather.

“There was a bit of rough and tumble on the inside, we were both doing a bit of holding and grappling. Floyd was using his forearms, but I don’t blame him, I would have done the same. It’s not a rib-tickling contest, is it?”

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Redbull were extremely bitter weren't they, I think it's all fair - I've seen Max pull of some really dangerous moves and no doubt if the roles were reversed he'd be saying the opposite, just gotta suck it up and stop being salty.

They have Max sat on pole, Perez at the back and then see Max crash out on the first lap.
Understandable that they are pissed of as there is then no chance of Builders points.
Sums it all up that they sacrificed Perez finishing position by changing his tyres 5 laps from the end in order to prevent Lewis getting fastest lap bonus.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Watched "That incident" a few times - Hamilton had at least a couple of feet he could've moved into on his right but didn't, however, he could argue that he turned in a fraction late and his tyres didn't give him the pull, so he stayed wider than intended - racing incident.

Trust me, I want to say he did it on purpose, I'm not a fan. He's still a pretentious shitbag so I'm glad to see Lando tearing it up and George Russell doing so well over the weekend - he's really settling into that car now.

 

[longtimespur]

Watched "That incident" a few times - Hamilton had at least a couple of feet he could've moved into on his right but didn't, however, he could argue that he turned in a fraction late and his tyres didn't give him the pull, so he stayed wider than intended - racing incident.

Trust me, I want to say he did it on purpose, I'm not a fan. He's still a pretentious shitbag so I'm glad to see Lando tearing it up and George Russell doing so well over the weekend - he's really settling into that car now.

PLUS he's a gooner...................................

 

[Gb160]

They have Max sat on pole, Perez at the back and then see Max crash out on the first lap.
Understandable that they are pissed of as there is then no chance of Builders points.
Sums it all up that they sacrificed Perez finishing position by changing his tyres 5 laps from the end in order to prevent Lewis getting fastest lap bonus.

I think a lot of it was Red Bull went in hard with comments straight after the incident to try to get Lewis black flagged, knowing Max's lead was likely to get slashed otherwise...that didn't work but they made their bed and had to continue to lie in it.

 

[tottenmal]

Racing incident or Lewis at fault, I could take either decision tbh. But if Lewis is at fault, and the stewards have grounds in the rules to say so, then is 10 seconds for that kind of incident adequate, I don't think so? Stop and Go pen surely...

With Russell getting such a harsh penalty for locking up and hitting Sainz, Stewards don't care if there was nothing the guilty driver could do (assuming their wasn't anything differently Lewis could do once Ver turned in), so the penalty going against Lewis was always going to happen.

Either way, I don't think Red Bull or Mercedes have covered themselves in much glory this weekend. Red Bull I get have every right to moan, but just took it to far.

Mercedes and Lewis, well you'd have thought Lewis overtook Verstappen for the win at the end there going by the celebrations. I know its Silverstone and Mercedes see themselves as the underdogs (lol), but they could have read the situation a tad better maybe?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I think the reason I prefer Max to Lewis is because Max drives to win and will push others, but everyone knows that he's driving his own line and that will be the fastest line he can find around the circuit. He doesn't strike me as the kind of Dick Dastardly type, who will try and deliberately take a shitty line to try and throw someone else off.

Max wants to race and win, Lewis just wants to win and doing something a bit underhanded is clearly not beneath him. You can see the frustration when he's among the pack - as soon as he has some space he starts churning the laps out but he's simply not as good a racer when under close pressure as Max is. Put Lewis up front and he'll put in fastest lap after fastest lap but you put a car up his arse and his focus is drawn off, whereas Max just gets sharper when he's battling and looks relatively bored when he wins with a big lead.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Max does the same thing every race. He defends the line aggressively and Silverstone was no different; just watch him veer all over the track. The guy’s had as many spats/incidents as race wins and he’s only 23.

There was space, Lewis had the car alongside Max, and the gap was closed quickly. A racing incident, surely. Thought Red Bull’s comments were totally uncalled for but, we are talking about Christian Horner here.

 

[Yid-ol]

I think the reason I prefer Max to Lewis is because Max drives to win and will push others, but everyone knows that he's driving his own line and that will be the fastest line he can find around the circuit. He doesn't strike me as the kind of Dick Dastardly type, who will try and deliberately take a shitty line to try and throw someone else off.

Max wants to race and win, Lewis just wants to win and doing something a bit underhanded is clearly not beneath him. You can see the frustration when he's among the pack - as soon as he has some space he starts churning the laps out but he's simply not as good a racer when under close pressure as Max is. Put Lewis up front and he'll put in fastest lap after fastest lap but you put a car up his arse and his focus is drawn off, whereas Max just gets sharper when he's battling and looks relatively bored when he wins with a big lead.

Have you not seen some of the shit Max has done?

Portugal 2020 he did almost the same as Hamilton did there but it was in practice and then blamed the other driver (Stroll) for being fucking blind.....

I dont like Hamilton or max a huge amount, both have huge talent in the sport, but to me max seems to be more arrogant for me.

 

[Shadydan]

Max does the same thing every race. He defends the line aggressively and Silverstone was no different; just watch him veer all over the track. The guy’s had as many spats/incidents as race wins and he’s only 23.

There was space, Lewis had the car alongside Max, and the gap was closed quickly. A racing incident, surely. Thought Red Bull’s comments were totally uncalled for but, we are talking about Christian Horner here.

Hasn't covered himself in glory has he, especially since Max has done some complete fuckeries on the track in the past, the only difference is that a lot of drivers have tended to back off when they're up against him, but the outburst from Horner just doesn't look good when Max has been responsible for things like this:



Red Bull Twitter account also posting clown emoji's at Hamilton - just screams of saltiness.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Have you not seen some of the shit Max has done?

Portugal 2020 he did almost the same as Hamilton did there but it was in practice and then blamed the other driver (Stroll) for being fucking blind.....

I dont like Hamilton or max a huge amount, both have huge talent in the sport, but to me max seems to be more arrogant for me.

Maybe arrogance is a good word for it but I still think Max is focused more on racing - I would be more inclined to believe him saying his tyres weren't there for him and he slpped a tiny bit wider on the turn in, than I would if Lewis did. Max has never come across as even that interested in other drivers' race, it's refreshing to see someone aggressive but not toward other drivers, just toward his own car and his own limits.

He'll be world champion one day though, if not this season then at some point in the future.

 

[$hoguN]

Maybe arrogance is a good word for it but I still think Max is focused more on racing - I would be more inclined to believe him saying his tyres weren't there for him and he slpped a tiny bit wider on the turn in, than I would if Lewis did. Max has never come across as even that interested in other drivers' race, it's refreshing to see someone aggressive but not toward other drivers, just toward his own car and his own limits.

He'll be world champion one day though, if not this season then at some point in the future.

Pretty much the exact opposite is true of Max, he is an overly aggressive, pampered and spoiled brat. Continuously he makes dangerous moves that have become accepted as stewards spent years not clamping down on them. Any impacts are someone else’s fault. He is continually swearing on the radio and let’s be frank if it wasn’t for his talent he would struggle to find a team.

Just because Lewis has multiple interests doesn’t mean he doesn’t really embrace the racing aspects. Everyone who works with him is very clear on his dedication to the sport. For example he spends hours in the simulator this weekend in order to help secure performance and tune the latest updates.

 

[tottenmal]

For example he spends hours in the simulator this weekend in order to help secure performance and tune the latest updates.

Only because he couldn't be bothered previously.. Mercedes dominance helping of course. Could spin that both ways... cards are down and Lewis gives it all to help the team across the line, or Lewis in previous years knew the team would do the hard work needed to elevate him above the field without him, so he didn't bother to help the team like every other teams driver would be doing.

Not that I disagree with you, I think Lewis is incredibly dedicated, just look at what it took his last teammate (Rosberg) to beat him. I just think the above is a bad example.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I think the reason I prefer Max to Lewis is because Max drives to win and will push others, but everyone knows that he's driving his own line and that will be the fastest line he can find around the circuit. He doesn't strike me as the kind of Dick Dastardly type, who will try and deliberately take a shitty line to try and throw someone else off.

Max wants to race and win, Lewis just wants to win and doing something a bit underhanded is clearly not beneath him. You can see the frustration when he's among the pack - as soon as he has some space he starts churning the laps out but he's simply not as good a racer when under close pressure as Max is. Put Lewis up front and he'll put in fastest lap after fastest lap but you put a car up his arse and his focus is drawn off, whereas Max just gets sharper when he's battling and looks relatively bored when he wins with a big lead.

Part of that is down to the design of the Mercedes, which is designed to run in clean air. The car itself is not as effective in traffic.

Max is a great driver, and will probably go on an win this year's championship - but Hamilton did not win 7 championships without "driving to win".

For me its a toss-up as to who is the better driver this season - you could argue that Hamilton has the inferior car this season, and his results are down to his driving, more so than Max.

 

[$hoguN]

Only because he couldn't be bothered previously.. Mercedes dominance helping of course. Could spin that both ways... cards are down and Lewis gives it all to help the team across the line, or Lewis in previous years knew the team would do the hard work needed to elevate him above the field without him, so he didn't bother to help the team like every other teams driver would be doing.

Not that I disagree with you, I think Lewis is incredibly dedicated, just look at what it took his last teammate (Rosberg) to beat him. I just think the above is a bad example.

He does loads of development work with the team. We may not see it but they always say it