The Deadline Day ITK Discussion Thread - 1st September

[mr ashley]

Hoping for good things from Phillips too.

This lad will not play a minute of senior football this season so please, let’s stop dreaming that he’s here for the first team.
He’s part of the next generation alongside lankshear and soonsup-bell. He’s 18

edit: on the bench at Burnley so possibly wrong but still a lot to expect from an 18yr old

 

[alexis]

I know another centre back would have been great but this is not a terrible window. 3 straight hits so far and hopefully BJ rocks it for us, 2 good future prospects and Udogie effectively a new player who is fantastic, Solomon jury is still out on. Outs could have been better but for whatever reason this didnt happen its still not that bad a window. We are not winning the league this year but this is not going to happen over a single season and there is reason to be happy about what is happening on the pitch. If we keep progressing like this then its the right direction.

 

[Stamford]

“Every penny is invested back into the club” - Daniel Levy

Harry Kane sold for £100m with £200k a week stripped from the wage bill. Brennan Johnson was bought for £37.5m who will be on a fraction of that £200k a week..

Summer 2022, the club had an additional £50m investment that wasn’t invested..

That should leave £112.5m in the club accounts..

Even if people argue where the match day revenue and TV coverage rights go, you can’t argue any of the above.

We are 2 injuries away from a crisis at centre back. With £112.5m to spend, we could have overpaid for 1 young centre back so not to leave Ange in the lurch.

Every penny has NOT been invested in the club, Daniel. This is quite simply a barefaced lie. Don’t lie to the people that invest in the club.

Spot on and would love to see the argument against what you've stated

 

[E17yid]

Our problem isn’t our starting eleven as such. It’s that we have little to no backup in most positions.
we’re good at rb, rwf and lwf and 8
We’re not covered at cb, cdm or 9

I’d rather have the problem of filling the squad than having to sign half a first team. I know I’m jinxing it here but maybe with the less games this season we can pull off a relatively injury free season.

Just realised what thread I’m in so I’ll do a runner now.

 

[elfy]

“Every penny is invested back into the club” - Daniel Levy

Harry Kane sold for £100m with £200k a week stripped from the wage bill. Brennan Johnson was bought for £37.5m who will be on a fraction of that £200k a week..

Summer 2022, the club had an additional £50m investment that wasn’t invested..

That should leave £112.5m in the club accounts..

Even if people argue where the match day revenue and TV coverage rights go, you can’t argue any of the above.

We are 2 injuries away from a crisis at centre back. With £112.5m to spend, we could have overpaid for 1 young centre back so not to leave Ange in the lurch.

Every penny has NOT been invested in the club, Daniel. This is quite simply a barefaced lie. Don’t lie to the people that invest in the club.

And yet the clubs audited accounts (publically available) show a loss of circa £50m a season since the stadium opened.

Where is the cash everyone seems to think we have? Cos it sure as hell isn't in the clubs bank account.

 

[$hoguN]

OK. So we should have spent a further £120m+ on top of £40m Maddison and £47.5m Johnson?

Yes we should have. We are one of the richest clubs in the world. Charge extortionate ticket prices etc. it’s ok for fans to expect us to invest the summer that we sell our greatest ever goal scorer

 

[Nebby]

Spot on and would love to see the argument against what you've stated

But it‘s nonsense.

 

[$hoguN]

I know another centre back would have been great but this is not a terrible window. 3 straight hits so far and hopefully BJ rocks it for us, 2 good future prospects and Udogie effectively a new player who is fantastic, Solomon jury is still out on. Outs could have been better but for whatever reason this didnt happen its still not that bad a window. We are not winning the league this year but this is not going to happen over a single season and there is reason to be happy about what is happening on the pitch. If we keep progressing like this then its the right direction.

We sold Kane and didnt even fully plug the gaps in the squad

 

[Huddlebone]

Worst window in a long time. And that is not based on Ins but how we are not able to move players on, and that is all on Levy. Ange wanted a smaller squad but is still left with the shitty players that has not been good enough for 3-4 seasons. Im no officially Levy out. We lost the biggest player in the clubs history and was not even close to the word that was said in the beginning (ruthless) No ambition FC

 

[Nebby]

We sold Kane and didnt even fully plug the gaps in the squad

We don’t have gaps in the squad. Its just that some fans don’t like certain players who provide the cover.

 

[alexis]

We sold Kane and didnt even fully plug the gaps in the squad

Madders, VDV and Vicario surely have plugged the AM, CB and GK which was needed, I know we sold Kane i dont live under a rock, what i said its not as bad as people are making out.

 

[Styopa]

We needed to do more BUT:

Vicario, Udogie, van de Ven, Bissouma, Sarr, Maddison and Johnson are mostly major upgrades compared to what we were working with in the same positions last season e.g Lloris, Dier, Hojbjerg, Lucas.

I appreciate Bissouma, Sarr and Udogie are not new signings but, they may as well be.

There is also Porro who has been here less than a year.

Richarlison is clearly a major downgrade compared to Kane - but I think we may get away with this, at least this season, with the new system and goals coming from elsewhere.

So although I think we needed to do much more, I think our squad is actually looking pretty exciting provided we stay injury free.

Having so few matches this season could also help us given the drop off in quality from the best eleven to the cover.

 

[worcestersauce]

It's actually been a good window starting with the new head coach.
We've addressed all the issues we knew about, & Postecoglu identified, and now have a new dynamic side and that, despite the failings, is inarguable.
The failings are that we didn't get rid of players we wanted to and we didn't get the other CB as bench backup to Romero and Van de Ven, to be honest on that one I'd rather that to having panic bought a Chelsea reject on the last day, hopefully we'll approach that as a priority over the next few months to January. I understand the concerns about what if we have a double or treble CB injury but it ain't sensible to lose your nuts at the vague possibility.
For now Sanchez will do a job for us well enough and hopefully Bentancur will be back in November and our midfield quality deepens.
On the Lloris situation there's too much shit being flung at him. People are forgetting that he was prepared to go last summer but the club convinced him to extend two years then went bodmin eventually sacking the manager rendering the whole point of him staying moot, he doesn't owe us anything.
If we are embarked on a rebuild and a complete rejuvenation of our approach to football it's pretty self evident that we've done good for the first window on that journey.
Now for Burnley.

 

[Stamford]

But it‘s nonsense.

how so? Where did the Kane / tv money go this summer? Because it wasn't all spent on incomings we know that

 

[amathews3416]

In terms of filling all of the holes the window was a failure.

If you look at it from a straight hit/miss perspective of the players we bought, this has been one of our best windows in sometime. VDV looks like the makings of a young Vertonghen. Vicario will be our #1 for years to come. Maddison is by all accounts the signing of the season thus far in the PL.

 

[BujuBanton]

I know another centre back would have been great but this is not a terrible window. 3 straight hits so far and hopefully BJ rocks it for us, 2 good future prospects and Udogie effectively a new player who is fantastic, Solomon jury is still out on. Outs could have been better but for whatever reason this didnt happen its still not that bad a window. We are not winning the league this year but this is not going to happen over a single season and there is reason to be happy about what is happening on the pitch. If we keep progressing like this then its the right direction.

We sold Kane and replaced him with a canteen condiments partnership

 

[RJR1949]

Only three players who started the first game against Southampton last season started against Brentford this season. With one massive exception the 8 new players are better than those they replaced.

That’s a lot of change in a short period.

Should we have made some of these changes seasons earlier? Definitely

Is it enough to make us title challengers? Of course not.

Are we at long last on the right track? Yes.

 

[Led Revolver]

Spot on and would love to see the argument against what you've stated

And yet the clubs audited accounts (publically available) show a loss of circa £50m a season since the stadium opened.

Where is the cash everyone seems to think we have? Cos it sure as hell isn't in the clubs bank account.

Well if they’re public accounts then they must be true. No company ever tries to be ‘creative’ with their accounts do they!? All very trustworthy I’m sure..

I mean, forget the fact that we generate such vast amounts of money every home game, forget that we are the 9th richest.. yes richest club in the world, whilst selling one of our greatest ever players for a huge sum. Being a club with enormous FFP headroom. All these things say money, money, money.

You can’t have it both ways, by pleading poverty but making such vast amounts of money at the same time. Why do people find it hard to add everything together and question what’s actually happening!?

 

[alexis]

We sold Kane and replaced him with a canteen condiments partnership

really dont even know what this means

 

[azza]

You need to look at cash flow statement not profit. You can see that surplus money goes on acquisition of plant, property amd equipment. ENIC strategy is to build up balance sheet value to enable them to take money out through sale.