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[Marty]

Martial is no more a central striker than Son. They are both flexible forwards who can play wide or central.

... and Son has actually scored more goals in the PL than Martial has in the same seasons.

This is true.

Son is a foot taller than Martial

But where does this come from? Martial is 1.81, or 6 foot in your archaic measurements. Son is only marginally taller.

 

[C0YS]

Can you not change the ‘even’ to a ‘when’ please?

Tbf I'm looking at the grammar and it is so ambiguous you could interpret it in multiple ways.

Looks like a mixed conditional with the second and 0 conditional. Second is used for an an unlikely scenario, or a hypothetical impossibility. The 0 is for fact but in this case is probably just emphasising that not loaning is a factual statement in every case. But could also mean that Parrott is certain not to be loaned out if someone is signed and therefore there is a likely chance of getting a new striker.

It might also be just a poorly attempted second conditional and frankly I would probably correct it as such were it one of my students.

P.S. (Also when would not work here as it would mean we had already signed a striker some time ago.)
P.S.S No I'm not very fun at parties. An ex once called me a cure for insomnia, which was actually quite helpful seeing as she was diagnosed as such!

 

[dfree]

I'd obviously love to sign a striker but if there's not one Jose wants that's available on loan then not much you can do. No point signing a quick fix option on a permanent who turns out to be a dud who you subsequently can't shift as we've had too many of them in the squad recently anyway.

 

[ernest_lowrider]

Will give little insight close of window. Hopefully will make sense. Will name players (to a limit).

ooooh a criptic, why is Herc repeating 'will'? are we going to sign Will Hughes as dm? Maybe, but i don't think so.

Will-an Jose welcome to Tottenham Hotspur - crazy goals & skills (baby shark remix)

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

This is true.



But where does this come from? Martial is 1.81, or 6 foot in your archaic measurements. Son is only marginally taller.

Ok the site I read must have been wrong then but again, Son is marginally taller so there's nothing in it height wise. It's not as if Martial is miles taller than Son.

 

[WiganSpur]

Utd have Martial and Greenwood I presume?

Martial is no more a central striker than Son. They are both flexible forwards who can play wide or central.

Son is a foot taller than Martial and Son has actually scored more goals in the PL than Martial has in the same seasons.

Greenwood isn't much different to Parrott, except he has been given a chance. He's only a few months older than Troy.

Our manager has said we have no strikers. We are not coached by Pochettino any more, they see the game differently clearly. Levy has to support Mourinho's vision.

 

[Donki]

For the umpteenth time it's not just down to this window though is it? We let Llorente go last summer with no replacement. We took a massive gamble, bordering on negligence, that Kane would would stay fit all season despite running him into the ground.

We have Son and now Steve though, we bought Jansen as a quality goal scoring back up, with good reason and we know how that ended. "running him into the ground" FFS, when players are fit they play 90% of the time.

Firmino 24 League games 24 appearances
Vardy 20 League games 24 appearances (missed games due to injury)
Aguero 24 League games 18 appearances (missed games due to injury)

There is no team in the world that rests their best player on a regular basis.

 

[Donki]

does that make no sense. SB is clearly part of a future rebuild project. He's young. He's a potential upgrade on what we have and was available for fairly decent money. I don't recall there having been a striker available in the same bracket this transfer window. Piatek looks guff, William Jose looks guff and neither are young. Giroud, Benteke,

What? He is 22... He will play this season.

 

[Annabel]

Been sitting at Barts all morning with an elderly relative. Thanks guys for keeping me sane.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Our manager has said we have no strikers. We are not coached by Pochettino any more, they see the game differently clearly. Levy has to support Mourinho's vision.

You said our rivals do have strikers though, all I'm saying is no they don't all have strikers. Martial is no more a striker than Son and this is backed up by the positions they've played in their careers, their scoring records, attributes and size.

Perhaps Mourinho should be a little bit more flexible for now, seeing us none of Liverpool, City, Utd, Leicester or Scum seem to play with the type of striker Mourinho wants and they do just fine?

That way we can develop Parrott. Perhaps in the summer with more time we can find a more suitable short term back up.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Plenty of time yet still. Im holding out hope for striker to come in by end of the day.

 

[Lily White Lady]

Troy Parrot not going on loan

Well that in itself says a lot about our prospects of signing another ST I think

 

[THOWIG]

Apart from Haaland and Werner the reality is there is no one good enough out there. Surprised the noise around Osimhen died down, but I'd rather we stick than get someone for the sake of it.

 

[Marty]

What? He is 22... He will play this season.

That we will see him this season doesn't exclude him fron being part of the rebuild as well.

 

[FinnYid]

Perhaps Mourinho should be a little bit more flexible for now, seeing us none of Liverpool, City, Utd, Leicester or Scum seem to play with the type of striker Mourinho wants and they do just fine?

Perhaps Levy shouldn't have appointed a manager whose tactics is dependent on having a proper striker if he can't deliver him one? Just a thought.

 

[SheffieldAndy]

You said our rivals do have strikers though, all I'm saying is no they don't all have strikers. Martial is no more a striker than Son and this is backed up by the positions they've played in their careers, their scoring records, attributes and size.

Perhaps Mourinho should be a little bit more flexible for now, seeing us none of Liverpool, City, Utd, Leicester or Scum seem to play with the type of striker Mourinho wants and they do just fine?

That way we can develop Parrott. Perhaps in the summer with more time we can find a more suitable short term back up.

Surely he’s being very flexible so far? Because another team plays one way doesn’t mean we can, will we suddenly play like one of them if we sign X player? And why flex more to sign a player for 6 months that means we have to change the way we play again over the summer when we may get who Mourinho wants?
Anyhow, as this is the ITK thread and not the formations or other clubs thread, we aren’t hearing things are dead for a striker, even though nothing hugely positive, there’s nothing to say that it absolutely won’t happen.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Perhaps Levy shouldn't have appointed a manager whose tactics is dependent on having a proper striker if he can't deliver him one? Just a thought.

I totally agree, perhaps Levy shouldn't have appointed a manager if he doesn't seem to have the tactical flexibility to cope with injuries.

If we keep the ball better in midfield and push Alli or Lamela as a false 9, we can build with passing on the deck and balls in the channels for our wing forwards, rather than just lumping it forwards.

 

[JayB]

I submit that Son is a better No. 9 than any we've been linked to this window. True enough he's not the hold-up man that Jose desired, but then neither is Piatek who was seemingly the primary target for most of the window. Son is a better player than Piatek by far and the club is better off having not succumbed to the temptation to panic buy.

Jose will simply have to adjust to playing without a striker who is good with his back to goal. He'd have had to have done that anyway even if we'd gotten the player we chased for the whole window in.

 

[dagraham]

This window is like going out to buy some work boots and a pair of wellies but coming home with some fluffy girls slippers and a pair of flip flops. Then, remembering that your house is surrounded by mud and you have fuck all footwear for Monday morning on the building site.

Or going into hospital needing a triple by pass and hearing “sorry sir, we’re not going to able to do anything now for 6 months, but good news is we’ve fixed your in growing toe nail”.

 

[wrd]

I submit that Son is a better No. 9 than any we've been linked to this window. True enough he's not the hold-up man that Jose desired, but then neither is Piatek who was seemingly the primary target for most of the window. Son is a better player than Piatek by far and the club is better off having not succumbed to the temptation to panic buy.

Jose will simply have to adjust to playing without a striker who is good with his back to goal. He'd have had to have done that anyway even if we'd gotten the player we chased for the whole window in.

We were all very excited by how good he is meant to be tactically so it will be interesting to see how he adjusts things.