The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Concise Edition 10th July 2013

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Pete Spur

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really we just need to buy back Berbatov and stick him upfront with Bale playing off him and we'll be sorted for the next season or 2 atleast

get Nani in too if possible
 

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The striker is going to show us how much Levy trusts Baldini.

To be fair, it seems the fact that we came so close to Villa showed that he is trusting him

Levy has never really put much stock in strikers unless they had a proven record in the Prem. And when he has done it, they have had been problematic. Berbatov's departure was a nightmare. And Pavs never seemed to adapt as we would have hoped. Postiga didn't quite come off the way we hoped and Mido was okay. But even he was a loan to begin with. I sometimes think past links with Spanish strikers were more PR than real. But maybe the interest was legit but Levy just couldn't bring himself to spend dosh on a foreign stiker.

So Benteke is Levy's comfort zone. If Baldini finds somebody else and convinces Levy to let go of his security blanket, it will be massive.
 

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I think Carroll needs to go out on loan and we need the 6th Mid to be more of a DM (hence why I picked Can as he is a DM that can also plat AM & CB).

As for Lee Trundle, I heard he will only move to a club in the CL.


I'm not sure I want us spunking any money on a sixth choice midfielder

what's the point of our academy and world class training center if we can't promote a 6th choice midfielder from within
 

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Anyone else find it so strange the dearth of ITK on Chadli despite so many news reports stating it's close?
 

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I'm not sure I want us spunking any money on a sixth choice midfielder

what's the point of our academy and world class training center if we can't promote a 6th choice midfielder from within

I see your point but this guy is in the last year of his contract and has told Bayern he is going to leave, so he wouldn't cost that much.

I also don't see who we could promote that could do a good job as a DMC.
 

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Gards said he was shown round with Benteke.

That's really been it, though. Usually at least 2-3 would jump on and provide some input. And, you'd think that if he were shown around there'd be ITK aplenty.
 

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Siggy off the left I think would work down to a tee. I know at times he looked awkward there but he has all the right attributes minus the pace to cut in off the left side and score 10 + goals a season.

Also agreed on Holtby, everyone looks someone with passion but at times he was like a kid on a school yard; needs to channel the energy into something productive.

Just said pretty much exactly the same in the Benteke thread.. "I'm a lone voice (I know that, in this instance) but I wouldn't be at all disappointed if we go to Crystal Palace & have a front 3 of Sigurdsson, Adebayor, Bale... I'm not just saying it, Sigurdsson is best in the final third, NOT on the bloody wing. Give him a goal opportunity & I'm confident he'll take it (or hit the woodwork lol).. He is very underrated by too many supporters."
 

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The striker is going to show us how much Levy trusts Baldini.

To be fair, it seems the fact that we came so close to Villa showed that he is trusting him

Levy has never really put much stock in strikers unless they had a proven record in the Prem. And when he has done it, they have had been problematic. Berbatov's departure was a nightmare. And Pavs never seemed to adapt as we would have hoped. Postiga didn't quite come off the way we hoped and Mido was okay. But even he was a loan to begin with. I sometimes think past links with Spanish strikers were more PR than real. But maybe the interest was legit but Levy just couldn't bring himself to spend dosh on a foreign stiker.

So Benteke is Levy's comfort zone. If Baldini finds somebody else and convinces Levy to let go of his security blanket, it will be massive.
It's strange; ITK, media stories & good old fashioned thinking for myself leads me to a genuinely tiny shortlist of players that might want to come to Spurs, adapt quickly and improve our forward line.

That's probably why missing Villa is so galling, cos it would have taken that pressure away for a couple of years.
Now Benteke seriously stands nearly alone in strikers (specifically goal-scoring forwards) that could improve us, but comes at a very high tariff. He's probably worth it though, if only for the lack of viable alternatives.
We're stuck just beneath the top tier, and that's a good thing, but it means improving the squad is ever more difficult as the pond we're fishing in is pretty exclusive.
As such retaining Adebayor, for all his foibles, is important; we start next season without him, we'll have weakened our front line.
 

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That's really been it, though. Usually at least 2-3 would jump on and provide some input. And, you'd think that if he were shown around there'd be ITK aplenty.
I could be wrong but didn't JJ hint at this as well in a post?
 

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I see your point but this guy is in the last year of his contract and has told Bayern he is going to leave, so he wouldn't cost that much.

I also don't see who we could promote that could do a good job as a DMC.


he's probably leaving Bayern to play 1st team footy not come sit on our bench waiting for Sandro, Paulinho or Dembele to get injured
 

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That's really been it, though. Usually at least 2-3 would jump on and provide some input. And, you'd think that if he were shown around there'd be ITK aplenty.
Well we showed numerous players around last season that didnt come to fruition including Will i an so don't go too excited about us showing Benteke around......
JJetset, Sunday at 5:35 PM Report#948
 

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he's probably leaving Bayern to play 1st team footy not come sit on our bench waiting for Sandro, Paulinho or Dembele to get injured
He would get plenty of games with us. His problem at Bayern is that he is something like 9th choice.
 

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Didn't someone else denied that?? That Benteke is on vacation?

Yes, i think it was also in the news paper. But we don't have a timeline. Could have been shown round then got a flight? Who knows could be bs for all I know and we're not even interested in either.
 

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I'm pretty sure that Gards/Suter (I think it was Gards) said that this 'trip' to our training ground happened on the 1st July.
 

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Just said pretty much exactly the same in the Benteke thread.. "I'm a lone voice (I know that, in this instance) but I wouldn't be at all disappointed if we go to Crystal Palace & have a front 3 of Sigurdsson, Adebayor, Bale... I'm not just saying it, Sigurdsson is best in the final third, NOT on the bloody wing. Give him a goal opportunity & I'm confident he'll take it (or hit the woodwork lol).. He is very underrated by too many supporters."
I think Sig was a bit underrated last season, he had some rough games but I'd much rather him on the field in any situation than Defoe or Dempsey, he can get goals as well as they do but can also actually play. I think he'd be best as a central AM with a decent striker ahead of him, but he's not a terrible wing forward option and I'd rather him play striker than Defoe.
 

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The striker is going to show us how much Levy trusts Baldini.

To be fair, it seems the fact that we came so close to Villa showed that he is trusting him

Levy has never really put much stock in strikers unless they had a proven record in the Prem. And when he has done it, they have had been problematic. Berbatov's departure was a nightmare. And Pavs never seemed to adapt as we would have hoped. Postiga didn't quite come off the way we hoped and Mido was okay. But even he was a loan to begin with. I sometimes think past links with Spanish strikers were more PR than real. But maybe the interest was legit but Levy just couldn't bring himself to spend dosh on a foreign stiker.

So Benteke is Levy's comfort zone. If Baldini finds somebody else and convinces Levy to let go of his security blanket, it will be massive.

I'm not sure the money for benteke is really in levys comfort zone!
 

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I think Sig was a bit underrated last season, he had some rough games but I'd much rather him on the field in any situation than Defoe or Dempsey, he can get goals as well as they do but can also actually play. I think he'd be best as a central AM with a decent striker ahead of him, but he's not a terrible wing forward option and I'd rather him play striker than Defoe.
Last season I stated that sig was not that great a player. Ok he's decent,decent technically and pops up with a goal or 2. However some on here were saying that he was an adequate replacement for vdv. I disagreed! He's a squad player that's it. Can't see him ever being worth more than the 8m we spent on him. Fact is we still miss modders and vdv. Mostly modders. We need to. But first team players that will put us in the top 4. Sig won't......Dempsey seriously won't! You've gotta always use Man U as a bench mark. How many players do we have that would get in their team. I fear not as many now as a season back....and this carries onto this season!
 
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