The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 6th May 2014

[only1waddle]

"Are you entertained? Are you fucking entertained yet?"

Screamed Levy over the microphone at the White Hart Lane faithful.

Or wanders up and shouts "lets be havin you" as 36,000 people get to oblige his wishes..

 

[TottenhamLegend]

Sorry if I am being dumb, but I'm a bit unclear on the Goat's info.

Don't want anything to take away from Ledley's game.

Does that mean they won't announce his departure the day before because it would overshadow the game

or

They will announce it before, because Sherwood still being in charge would overshadow the game.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Sorry if I am being dumb, but I'm a bit unclear on the Goat's info.

Don't want anything to take away from Ledley's game.

Does that mean they won't announce his departure the day before because it would overshadow the game

or

They will announce it before, because Sherwood still being in charge would overshadow the game.

A&C responded to the same question in another thread as: TS will likely be told after the Villa game, it might not be announced publicly until after Ledley's game.

 

[dovahkiin]

yay !
just one thread to focus on !

 

[TottenhamLegend]

A&C responded to the same question in another thread as: TS will likely be told after the Villa game, it might not be announced publicly until after Ledley's game.

Ah right, thanks.

 

[wpd659]

yay !
just one thread to focus on !

Yes agree! Plus u got somewhere to post all the ITK you find

 

[Spurger King]

I think Ledley should get to sack Tim, before or after his testimonial. One final moment of protecting our club. Preferably with a 10 yard slide tackle, and a P45 attached to his boot.

 

[DaSpurs]

This thread is off to a solid start, some comedy gold up in here. May this summer, with good providence, seek to emulate the desirable groundwork laid here.

 

[absolute bobbins]

It's good to be back, bye bye productivity!

Sorry if I am being dumb, but I'm a bit unclear on the Goat's info.

Don't want anything to take away from Ledley's game.

Does that mean they won't announce his departure the day before because it would overshadow the game

or

They will announce it before, because Sherwood still being in charge would overshadow the game.

I assumed they'd announce it after, at least a day or so. That way Ledley has his moment and we have another day to alienate more potential candidates

 

[Antilokhos]

I'm not a Sherwood fan, I don't think he was ready to be manager, and I don't think he should be manager of the club. I think he has made a fool of himself, alienated players needlessly, and been overly antagonistic in his actions.

That said, the way we, as a club, have handled his imminent sacking has been shambolic. It's not the sort of decorum that I want my club to participate in and for nothing else I would be glad to close the book on this chapter of THFC history.

 

[Amo]

I'm not a Sherwood fan, I don't think he was ready to be manager, and I don't think he should be manager of the club. I think he has made a fool of himself, alienated players needlessly, and been overly antagonistic in his actions.

That said, the way we, as a club, have handled his imminent sacking has been shambolic. It's not the sort of decorum that I want my club to participate in and for nothing else I would be clad to close the book on this chapter of THFC history.

Good thing mate, I think I can speak on behalf of everybody in saying we wouldn't really want to see you naked.

 

[DaSpurs]

I'm not a Sherwood fan, I don't think he was ready to be manager, and I don't think he should be manager of the club. I think he has made a fool of himself, alienated players needlessly, and been overly antagonistic in his actions.

That said, the way we, as a club, have handled his imminent sacking has been shambolic. It's not the sort of decorum that I want my club to participate in and for nothing else I would be clad to close the book on this chapter of THFC history.

While I don't blame you for that at all, in fact I respect you for it, I think it begs to be asked: how much of this has to do with the modern age of managerial turnover, consequent media awareness and resource diversion, and technology-induced availability and speed of communication? I.e. how much can be chalked up to the media now going way overboard to investigate and dig stuff up on these things, and in part to availability of communication? Did the club in fact do anything unusual this time in searching for a new manager, or is it due to the sheer extent of contact networks these media outlets have and the methods of communication at their disposal that exposed these very normal actions big clubs take while sounding out potential options?

(If it helps you come to some sort of peace of mind, then simply asking the question isn't all for naught.)

 

[wpd659]

Good thing mate, I think I can speak on behalf of everybody in saying we wouldn't really want to see you naked.

You cant of been around long....... There are some really special people on this forum and im sure one of the crazy's would

 

[Antilokhos]

While I don't blame you for that at all, in fact I respect you for it, I think it begs to be asked: how much of this has to do with the modern age of managerial turnover, consequent media awareness and resource diversion, and technology-induced availability and speed of communication? I.e. how much can be chalked up to the media now going way overboard to investigate and dig stuff up on these things, and in part to availability of communication? Did the club in fact do anything unusual this time in searching for a new manager, or is it due to the sheer extent of contact networks these media outlets have and the methods of communication at their disposal that exposed these very normal actions big clubs take while sounding out potential options?

(If it helps you come to some sort of peace of mind, then simply asking the question isn't all for naught.)

I think that certainly plays a factor in it; but that doesn't explain the very public flirtation with first Van Gaal, and now De Boer. It just feels so vulgar and low, like something I'd expect from Chelsea. I don't want to be that.

It was fairly clear in December that Sherwood wasn't the first choice for Levy, but acting like he was a full time manager and not just a caretaker means we shouldn't so openly pursuing other options. It's made me sympathetic to Sherwood, somebody who I genuinely don't care for.

 

[DaSpurs]

I think that certainly plays a factor in it; but that doesn't explain the very public flirtation with first Van Gaal, and now De Boer. It just feels so vulgar and low, like something I'd expect from Chelsea. I don't want to be that.

Well see that's exactly what I'm asking: did we do anything unusual with those flirtations for big clubs in the modern age, or is it simply that because of media intrigue and diversion of highly communicable assets that they were able to display this information to make it so publicly available? Let's say hypothetically fifteen years ago for instance, would we have known so quickly that Levy had twice met with LvG? Would those eyes have been even working for those media outlets, have even been assigned to do so, and then yet be able to communicate that information in such a manner to make it believable? Without twitter and cellphones, it's reasonable to postulate that those Dutch witnesses wouldn't have even known or cared about Levy landing in Amsterdam, much less even been in contact with those media outlets.

I guess my point is that I don't think we're doing anything in particular, it's that because of Levy's recent managerial record that we're likely followed quite extensively by very contacted members of the media. So this is merely in attempt to help you rest easy, as I think the fact we're even privy to these observations in the first place is more so the result of modern football rather than any unusual and "vulgar" actions from the club itself.

 

[beats1]

I think that certainly plays a factor in it; but that doesn't explain the very public flirtation with first Van Gaal, and now De Boer. It just feels so vulgar and low, like something I'd expect from Chelsea. I don't want to be that.

It was fairly clear in December that Sherwood wasn't the first choice for Levy, but acting like he was a full time manager and not just a caretaker means we shouldn't so openly pursuing other options. It's made me sympathetic to Sherwood, somebody who I genuinely don't care for.

I think that the public flirtations was less us and more them saying come and get me

 

[DaSpurs]

I think that the public flirtations was less us and more them saying come and get me

In both those cases, this is very true. I remember seeing in an interview with a Dutch correspondent somewhere that to the Dutch, discussion of potential managerial jobs and contact with those suitors is just not a big deal to them. In England that's all very subdued since it's viewed as detestable and ungentlemanly, but it's just quite simply not as big of a deal elsewhere. This disparity in etiquette can find itself most manifest at the juxtaposition we find ourselves at now, with being a big club that generates vast media attention due to our previously controversial managerial revolving door now having sought out two very highly followed and respected Dutch coaches.

So take heart @Antilokhos, I don't think your club has done you and others quite as unjustly as it certainly seems on the surface.

 

[not_tenth-again]

Oh fuck..... there go my chances of a high distinction at uni

welcome back my precious

 

[KaribYid]

ITK thread opens that day before my A-Levels start

This is going to end well...

 

[Gb160]

ITK thread opens that day before my A-Levels start

This is going to end well...

Oh fuck..... there go my chances of a high distinction at uni

welcome back my precious

A levels and Uni are for idiots......this place will teach you all you need to know.