The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 5th August 2013

[Klinsmannesque]

So AVB was offered by Luke Shaw, the real question for me is who by? Not by Baldini, in my reckoning, so why is he there????

Sherwood maybe?

 

[tiger666]

JASPER - SO

Ok, Ginola will join us as a coach in some form. Dawson out for a good while, YK nowhere near ready against popular opinion that he is. Sandro we are aiming for him to get a run out Saturday. We do not want to loose Scotty (AVB). 2 more signings pending and very close in the defensive unit.

 

[Klinsmannesque]

Another "homegrown" player that we are willing to let go too if this is correct info.

Says offers on the table, not necessarily willing to let go.

 

[freeeki]

I want to believe The Journalist's info.

But can't help but see the irony of believing good news from someone on an online forum professing to be a journalist, and ignoring the steady trickle of bad news from actual, real-life, paid journalists, many of whom have legitimate sources.

When journalists are acting as journalists, they have good reason to lie, exaggerate, bend the truth, make shit up - whatever you want to call it. It causes a stir and sells papers.

When a journalist is acting anonymously online, they have no reason to lie. There's no career gain in it for them, nor money to be made nor editors to impress nor a greasy pole to climb.

 

[Mullers]

Sherwood maybe?

Sherwood offering AVB players?????

 

[biscuitbeck]

I took the 'AVB was offered Luke Shaw but refused' bit to mean that Levy said do you want me to sign Luke Shaw as our left back but AVB said no I don't want him

 

[Riandor]

Spoiler

JASPER - SO

I have always shared in absolutely honesty with no bs and good faith. There are many times I cannot divulge otherwise I will expose where it could of come from and investigated within. I personally do not give a damn to the noted few that seem to trail and abuse my every post.

I have had enough and will refrain from anymore opinions, even if veiled as opinions when I know more. When the time is right I will invite certain people on here to meet me then opinions will change. I have said on a couple of occasions I have had enough but now after today it is final.

There are many on here who know my sources and more than that. I tried to share in good faith to enlighten and have a bit of friendly banter but in my opinion this forum has declined. For now I will stick around as I consider but certainly will not be posting anything
again. For today I will respond to anything thrown at me within reason but tomorrow I stop.
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I tried and was trying to be vague expecting readers to understand the vagueness as i really do not want to breach confidentiality. I am not a scholar of the English language which now seems obvious and lends itself to being misunderstood. My opinions I will state is only my opinion but normally based upon what I have knowledge of. I once use to write to the point and was challenged few years ago and adapted my style.
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Ok, Ginola will join us as a coach in some form. Dawson out for a good while, YK nowhere near ready against popular opinion that he is. Sandro we are aiming for him to get a run out Saturday. We do not want to loose Scotty (AVB). 2 more signings pending and very close in the defensive unit.

Terrible news... I don't understand how people on here STILL cannot understand how this forum is supposed to work and what the ITK crowd provide us. On top of it it is a great source of revenue for maintaining this wonderful site as many donate as a direct result of ITK.

Those who continuously question, harass and damn right disrespect any ITK should be damn well ashamed.

/rant.

 

[mattyspurs]

nobody in their right mind is going to pay that much. This kid has a long way to go. He runs around like a headless chicken at the moment. Needs a lot of coaching. I think he is worth 12-13m tops and there is no way any club is going to throw anymore than that at him.

Someone will, infact someone has, and that someone is Shakthar by all accounts

 

[TaoistMonkey]

JASPER - SO

I have always shared in absolutely honesty with no bs and good faith. There are many times I cannot divulge otherwise I will expose where it could of come from and investigated within. I personally do not give a damn to the noted few that seem to trail and abuse my every post.

I have had enough and will refrain from anymore opinions, even if veiled as opinions when I know more. When the time is right I will invite certain people on here to meet me then opinions will change. I have said on a couple of occasions I have had enough but now after today it is final.

There are many on here who know my sources and more than that. I tried to share in good faith to enlighten and have a bit of friendly banter but in my opinion this forum has declined. For now I will stick around as I consider but certainly will not be posting anything
again. For today I will respond to anything thrown at me within reason but tomorrow I stop.
---
I tried and was trying to be vague expecting readers to understand the vagueness as i really do not want to breach confidentiality. I am not a scholar of the English language which now seems obvious and lends itself to being misunderstood. My opinions I will state is only my opinion but normally based upon what I have knowledge of. I once use to write to the point and was challenged few years ago and adapted my style.
---

Ok, Ginola will join us as a coach in some form. Dawson out for a good while, YK nowhere near ready against popular opinion that he is. Sandro we are aiming for him to get a run out Saturday. We do not want to loose Scotty (AVB). 2 more signings pending and very close in the defensive unit.

Take note of this chaps. This is the reason we have a Zero tolerance on ITK Bashing.

p.s someone get Jasper over here for a hug.

 

[Klinsmannesque]

Sherwood offering AVB players?????

I doubt Southampton would openly offer their brightest prospect to us. I took it as someone in Spurs offered him up as a potential target and he declined.

 

[Sandro30]

did you get that from him saying: "We are looking at a french centre back"

It was more the context of him saying we are looking at a french CB over the weekend, I thought people would start crying if they thought we were waiting till next weekend to scout someone.

 

[mattyspurs]

Terrible news... I don't understand how people on here STILL cannot understand how this forum is supposed to work and what the ITK crowd provide us. On top of it it is a great source of revenue for maintaining this wonderful site as many donate as a direct result of ITK.

Those who continuously question, harass and dam right disrespect any ITK should be damn well ashamed.

/rant.

I agree with you, but I am taking it as the abuse that he has encountered over on SO, as that is where he is a poster?

 

[ButchCassidy]

Not too surprised AVB didn't want Shaw, I think he simply wants an experienced LB to step in and excel this year. Shaw is highly rated because he's so young and has bags of potential; but at the moment he's hardly better than what we have at LB. If he was 25 and French nobody would mention him as a target for us. He'll probably become a great player, but we have a limited budget for prospects and if we don't want to splunk a huge part of that on a defender I can't argue with it.

 

[Stupid like a fox]

I took the 'AVB was offered Luke Shaw but refused' bit to mean that Levy said do you want me to sign Luke Shaw as our left back but AVB said no I don't want him

I think the problem with Luke Shaw is that he is not ready to be first choice LB for a club challenging at the top of the table, and the fee that would be commanded would dictate that he must be seen as first choice.

He is going to be an exceptional talent in the future but at the moment would cost too much to not be first choice

 

[Disconosebleed]

When a journalist is acting anonymously online, they have no reason to lie. There's no career gain in it for them, nor money to be made nor editors to impress nor a greasy pole to climb.

But also no proof that they are actually a journalist. Not saying The Journalist isn't what he says he is, he seems perfectly legit, but all we have is his word.

 

[razor1981]

I want to believe The Journalist's info.

But can't help but see the irony of believing good news from someone on an online forum professing to be a journalist, and ignoring the steady trickle of bad news from actual, real-life, paid journalists, many of whom have legitimate sources.

There is a clear incentive for 'actual, real-life, paid journalists' to tell sensational stories, regardless of how true they believe them to be. The clue is in the "paid" bit. "Sensational" stories sell more papers/get more viewers than "true" ones.

I don't see what our Journalist would stand to gain from passing on 'dud' info though. When he passes stuff on I imagine it is because he trusts his sources and believes the info to be accurate.

 

[mattyspurs]

But also no proof that they are actually a journalist. Not saying The Journalist isn't what he says he is, he seems perfectly legit, but all we have is his word.

...and he has been verified by the Mods

 

[ButchCassidy]

But also no proof that they are actually a journalist. Not saying The Journalist isn't what he says he is, he seems perfectly legit, but all we have is his word.

Does it even matter if he's a journalist? He gives us good ITK in good faith and has been verified for a long time. Personally I don't give a whit whether he's a journo or the team plumber.

 

[Flashspur]

Take note of this chaps. This is the reason we have a Zero tolerance on ITK Bashing.

p.s someone get Jasper over here for a hug.

and this from the same bloke who said that they get most of their info from these forums

 

[Riandor]

I agree with you, but I am taking it as the abuse that he has encountered over on SO, as that is where he is a poster?

Oh really, yes now that you say that i can see how that would be the case... sorry if I went off on one against this site when it was actually SO Jasper was ranting over.