The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 30th August

[Teemu]

That was Ronan Keating’s first draft …

The smile on the face
Of a certain Dan Levy
There’s a glint in his eyes
And it makes me uneasy
The touch of his hand lets me know
We’ll get Lenglet on loan

 

[h2005]

Groundhog Day. At least we have the Rodrygo link to say we tried bring in someone.

 

[StanSpur]

The smile on the face
Of a certain Dan Levy
There’s a glint in his eyes
And it makes me uneasy
The touch of his hand lets me know
We’ll get Lenglet on loan

Even missed that one as lenglet is off to villa!

 

[FloridaSpur]

How is it possible we can’t get a permanent sale?? I get it with Ndombele with his wages, but Tangana isn’t on silly money.

We don't know the details of the proposed deal, could be a loan with option or obligation to buy?

 

[faymantaray]

Just like me and my Uni essays. 6 week deadline? Sure. Handed every single one in during the final hour that you were allowed to, having finished them not long before.

I am the same. However, if I was being paid millions a year to run a billion pound operation, I would do my uni essays when it was most appropriate.

 

[olliec]

I really can’t see anyone else coming in, but im not surprised anymore. Everything that I hear I always take with a pinch of salt so I don’t feel letdown. This is what the Levy regime has done to me. Grand plan for when Kane leaves, absolute bullocks mate!

 

[iddebu52]

Let's concentrate on the footballing side than waste our time on this disgusting show

 

[rawhide]

Oh look, the traditional meltdown.

*grabs popcorn*

 

[Trix]

Tbf the "traditional meltdown" usually follows the "traditional end to the window".

 

[codspur]

Can anyone tell me which player thread still holds a modicum of optimism for incomings or outgoings please before I skim read them all

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Can anyone tell me which player thread still holds a modicum of optimism for incomings or outgoings please before I skim read them all

Leandro Damiao

 

[Majick]

Can anyone tell me which player thread still holds a modicum of optimism for incomings or outgoings please before I skim read them all

Johnson - but I’m not sure how much optimism there is in there.

Did we ever get a definite answer back on Mbappe?

 

[y1dk1d]

Yep. Seems like despite the fact we clearly still need a CB, and a striker following the sale of our record goal scorer, it looks to be Johnson or nothing. I’m gonna guess it’s probably nothing

 

[Chris Flynn]

Johnson - but I’m not sure how much optimism there is in there.

Did we ever get a definite answer back on Mbappe?

No but Neymar sent a postcard saying the Beyonce gig was great and asked to be put on the mailing list for future shows

 

[rebrab]

I think we all need to take a breath and try and look at the window objectively

In my opinion the most important thing this window was solving the priority positions with good recruitments and not taking a step backwards. Early days, but Maddison/VDV/Vicario all look like great recruits so far. If you look at last summer, we got three great recruits in (Bissouma/Udogie/Romero) and if we do that every summer we'll be laughing long term.

The second most important thing was clearing the deadwood. This is where we have failed. Only Winks out on a perm, and Spence/Rodon on loans is shocking. Hopefully we solve that in the final few days as it seems like there is still interest out there but I'm personally not feeling that confident.

We do still have to solve for the attacking position, and of course we need another quality centreback. I do think we have reason to be concerned if we don't get these resolved. What I would say though is we cannot afford to enter panic buy scenario - buying the wrong player here will be catastrophic as its just someone we have to offload in the future. When I see names like Wout Faes or Maguire (agent driven nonsense) these are the exact type of transfers we shouldn't do and we should just bring Phillips or Dorrington in. I've got to be honest, personally I have my concerns about both Brennan Johnson and Gallagher (if this is even an option) but at least we've been following them for a long time so we should know what we're getting ourselves into.

Fati would have been a bonus signing. Would it have been nice? Yes. Would it have solved a long term problem? Not without an option it wouldn't... Personally I would rather put the near £10m he would have apparently cost us towards getting out the deadwood so that next window we can be focused on a pure build.

It's been a pretty good window, the issue is that we needed a great window because of the squad mess we have.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

I think we all need to take a breath and try and look at the window objectively

In my opinion the most important thing this window was solving the priority positions with good recruitments and not taking a step backwards. Early days, but Maddison/VDV/Vicario all look like great recruits so far. If you look at last summer, we got three great recruits in (Bissouma/Udogie/Romero) and if we do that every summer we'll be laughing long term.

The second most important thing was clearing the deadwood. This is where we have failed. Only Winks out on a perm, and Spence/Rodon on loans is shocking. Hopefully we solve that in the final few days as it seems like there is still interest out there but I'm personally not feeling that confident.

We do still have to solve for the attacking position, and of course we need another quality centreback. I do think we have reason to be concerned if we don't get these resolved. What I would say though is we cannot afford to enter panic buy scenario - buying the wrong player here will be catastrophic as its just someone we have to offload in the future. When I see names like Wout Faes or Maguire (agent driven nonsense) these are the exact type of transfers we shouldn't do and we should just bring Phillips or Dorrington in. I've got to be honest, personally I have my concerns about both Brennan Johnson and Gallagher (if this is even an option) but at least we've been following them for a long time so we should know what we're getting ourselves into.

Fati would have been a bonus signing. Would it have been nice? Yes. Would it have solved a long term problem? Not without an option it wouldn't... Personally I would rather put the near £10m he would have apparently cost us towards getting out the deadwood so that next window we can be focused on a pure build.

It's been a pretty good window, the issue is that we needed a great window because of the squad mess we have.

Think you might have forgotten about us selling another one of our players a little while back mate.

 

[rebrab]

Think you might have forgotten about us selling another one of our players a little while back mate.

I always had the opinion that Kane would go this summer so it was factored in for me, sad as that is to say

 

[Rob]

I think we all need to take a breath and try and look at the window objectively

In my opinion the most important thing this window was solving the priority positions with good recruitments and not taking a step backwards. Early days, but Maddison/VDV/Vicario all look like great recruits so far. If you look at last summer, we got three great recruits in (Bissouma/Udogie/Romero) and if we do that every summer we'll be laughing long term.

The second most important thing was clearing the deadwood. This is where we have failed. Only Winks out on a perm, and Spence/Rodon on loans is shocking. Hopefully we solve that in the final few days as it seems like there is still interest out there but I'm personally not feeling that confident.

We do still have to solve for the attacking position, and of course we need another quality centreback. I do think we have reason to be concerned if we don't get these resolved. What I would say though is we cannot afford to enter panic buy scenario - buying the wrong player here will be catastrophic as its just someone we have to offload in the future. When I see names like Wout Faes or Maguire (agent driven nonsense) these are the exact type of transfers we shouldn't do and we should just bring Phillips or Dorrington in. I've got to be honest, personally I have my concerns about both Brennan Johnson and Gallagher (if this is even an option) but at least we've been following them for a long time so we should know what we're getting ourselves into.

Fati would have been a bonus signing. Would it have been nice? Yes. Would it have solved a long term problem? Not without an option it wouldn't... Personally I would rather put the near £10m he would have apparently cost us towards getting out the deadwood so that next window we can be focused on a pure build.

It's been a pretty good window, the issue is that we needed a great window because of the squad mess we have.

What do you think the reaction would have been to us signing Richarlison this window? And that was a Richarlison who actually scored for Everton and looked a threat. If Richi is our Kane replacement/alternative, then it means we absolutely failed last year and we've also failed this year. There's no real way to sugar coat that we'll be 20-30 goals a season lighter than we were.

 

[barry]

What do you think the reaction would have been to us signing Richarlison this window? And that was a Richarlison who actually scored for Everton and looked a threat. If Richi is our Kane replacement/alternative, then it means we absolutely failed last year and we've also failed this year. There's no real way to sugar coat that we'll be 20-30 goals a season lighter than we were.

Are you saying you think we'll score only 30 goals this season?

 

[Dunc2610]

What do you think the reaction would have been to us signing Richarlison this window? And that was a Richarlison who actually scored for Everton and looked a threat. If Richi is our Kane replacement/alternative, then it means we absolutely failed last year and we've also failed this year. There's no real way to sugar coat that we'll be 20-30 goals a season lighter than we were.

To counter that, we don't actually know we will be, we're playing in a different way, where other players will be in the attack phase and scoring goals. We've scored 6 goals in three games, we scored 70 goals last season, that's 1.84/game, which we're already averaging more than.