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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 29th May 2012

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gibbospurs

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Listen boys! the manager most would like has been to watch the guy you all think is crap!! brilliant.
 

gibbospurs

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Ohhhh, so Harry's been telling Gio to play like a lethargic crack-head when given a chance - makes sense.
what chance would that be then?? a few europa games with a load of kids? How many starts has he had in the prem with the full team around him playing in his position?
 

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Don't really think 8 games for Ipswich counts as 'cutting it' to be honest.

I've got it! Let's kill two birds with one stone then and bring in Roy Keane to replace Harry and in turn he will make Gio our star player again - problem solved lads! ;)
 

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what chance would that be then?? a few europa games with a load of kids? How many starts has he had in the prem with the full team around him playing in his position?

In all his time here, he has been given plenty of opportunities, and never taken them. He has been given the opportunity to go out on loan and never made anything of it. He has been associated with drinking and night-clubbing, and his parents have come over and apologised for him, and promised he would behave if he got a second chance - with no discernible improvements. Hell, we were even offered good money by Udinese for him, last Summer, Seville offered a third and he insisted it had to be Seville - that is the only reason he is still at the Lane at all.

In all his time here (is it 4 year, now), he ahs done the occasional good thing on international duty, and that is it. Why are you so crayzee mad for him?
 

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Really can't understand peoples obsession with Gio.
No good here or turkey
 

HappySpur

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Listen boys! the manager most would like has been to watch the guy you all think is crap!! brilliant.


I don't think he's crap. I think he started his career by not taking his job seriously, thus getting bogged down in the London nightlife. By the last WC, I think he was ready to buckle down, after a great showing. But then circumstances got in the way.

1) Harry has made his mind up on him. And that is understandable. It's not like Harry got here last week. Gio had the window to prove himself and didn't

2) He isn't a wide player, but with Modric and VDV already occupying central roles, where people of their size aren't typically desired in this league, it's hard to see him in his natural position. It's not like Kranjcar is a wide player, but he's had to cope and done well. If he goes, we will wish him well for effort.

3) Ade and Crouch. For his natural role as a SS/#10 type, we've not had the type of strikers for him to best work with. It would seem to me that he and Defoe might be good partners. But big men, especially one who dominates his area like Ade, aren't good partners for Gio. VDV learned to run off Ade, but Gio just doesn't have that type of experience.

So not shit. Much like Bent, he's a really good player in a system not meant for him.

That being said, he was bought for Ramos and yet for the life of me I can't see how he would have been any good for Ramos' system. For Rodgers' system, he could be a solid player.
 

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im not mad for him sp! just think he hasnt been given a run in the team. He was a youngster from a different country. a kid. Maybe he likes a drink or 2, but never playing 2/3 games in a row must be pretty frustrating, what must the lad think? People were banging on about falque, went to southampton and couldnt get in the team. I thought his stats whilst out on loan were ok, considering he was new to the team mates. like i said, i dont think he has been used properly. Lennon was out for ages and he didnt get a chance. Also like i said, the manager that most on here want to take over clearly see's something in him if the post about watching him was genuine.
 

gibbospurs

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I don't think he's crap. I think he started his career by not taking his job seriously, thus getting bogged down in the London nightlife. By the last WC, I think he was ready to buckle down, after a great showing. But then circumstances got in the way.

1) Harry has made his mind up on him. And that is understandable. It's not like Harry got here last week. Gio had the window to prove himself and didn't

2) He isn't a wide player, but with Modric and VDV already occupying central roles, where people of their size aren't typically desired in this league, it's hard to see him in his natural position. It's not like Kranjcar is a wide player, but he's had to cope and done well. If he goes, we will wish him well for effort.

3) Ade and Crouch. For his natural role as a SS/#10 type, we've not had the type of strikers for him to best work with. It would seem to me that he and Defoe might be good partners. But big men, especially one who dominates his area like Ade, aren't good partners for Gio. VDV learned to run off Ade, but Gio just doesn't have that type of experience.

So not shit. Much like Bent, he's a really good player in a system not meant for him.

That being said, he was bought for Ramos and yet for the life of me I can't see how he would have been any good for Ramos' system. For Rodgers' system, he could be a solid player.
Exactly Happyspur!! Which is pretty much what i said in my first post on the subject.
 

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im not mad for him sp! just think he hasnt been given a run in the team. He was a youngster from a different country. a kid. Maybe he likes a drink or 2, but never playing 2/3 games in a row must be pretty frustrating, what must the lad think? People were banging on about falque, went to southampton and couldnt get in the team. I thought his stats whilst out on loan were ok, considering he was new to the team mates. like i said, i dont think he has been used properly. Lennon was out for ages and he didnt get a chance. Also like i said, the manager that most on here want to take over clearly see's something in him if the post about watching him was genuine.

I know.
It's just that this Gio thang has been done on here so many times.
As HappySpur has said, above, aside from any other issues, there are good footballing reasons why he can't get into the team.

If it is any consolation to you, I have posted previously that if we replace Redknapp I hope the new manager gives all of our players, fringe players and all a good look. Including Gio, including Corluka, including bassong, including Jenas...hell, I would even be happy for him to look inside the freakshow that is David Bentley to try to find the footballing talent somewhere in their.

I just think Gio is done at the Lane. He should have been gone by now. And, periodically, someone comes on here and champions him, as though we haven't had the debate a million times, already.

In regard to Rodgers looking at him - It's horses for courses. Gio may tick Swansea's boxes, but, will all due respect to Swansea, we are some what above them, aren't we.
 
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