The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 19th August 2022

[elfy]

If this is where we end, I think we're missing two first team players.

An upgrade on CB - I can see why we're waiting for the right player as this (like Romero) is someone we'll need as a core player for 5+ years.
A attacking midfielder - someone who can break down teams by direct runs (Zaniolo/Traore/etc).

The problem is that the league looks like it could be there for the taking this year and we might not get the same opportunity again (similar to when Liverpool signed Van Dijk and really pushed on and we stagnated).

The other concern is that a lot of the deadwood will be back with us next summer...

I think you're right, but I don't see any obvious targets available to target.
The likes of Bastoni and Gvardiol aren't available this window - either club not willing to sell, or player not willing to move.
Zaniolo again doesn't appear available, even then there's question marks about if he's worth what it'd take to buy him.
I look at other clubs business and links, and I struggle to see anyone who would fit what Conte is building.
I just can't see a player that I think "just pay whatever" like Liverpool did with Van Dijk.

 

[spursfan77]

There has been talk of holding money back to January, as it might make all the difference being able to strengthen in a specific area if needed during a long season like this one.

Saying that I'll be surprised if no one comes in at all.

This is what I have been saying for the last 3 months. The club has to hold some cash back because nobody knows what will happen because of the World Cup. January will be busy, I bet. If we are doing that then it is a sensible decision.

 

[H-SF]

I think we need to remember we're in the CL too, if we get a couple of injuries at the back we are nowhere near the required level.

Yep, one injury to our attacking options and Lucas is our option off the bench every game. Not enough for 4 competitions and this schedule

 

[13VanDerBale13]

I think we need to remember we're in the CL too, if we get a couple of injuries at the back we are nowhere near the required level.

This is exactly what I think some aren’t quite grasping, it’s easy to assume everyone will stay fit but that’s highly unlikely.

We will be relying on the likes of Tanganga/Lucas in cup games, which could end up costing us.

 

[thelak]

I think it’s been a good window

the issue for me is both Kane and Son are hitting 30 and our best chance of winning anything is whilst they remain at peak levels so patient squad building big thumbs up but we don’t have years on our side either

 

[EastLondonYid]

Funny how some on here never disagree with what Rob says but do when others post the same/similar comments on here.
Grow a pair.

 

[Qualsonic]

Smokescreen

 

[djhotspur]

If this is where we end, I think we're missing two first team players.

An upgrade on CB - I can see why we're waiting for the right player as this (like Romero) is someone we'll need as a core player for 5+ years.
A attacking midfielder - someone who can break down teams by direct runs (Zaniolo/Traore/etc).

The problem is that the league looks like it could be there for the taking this year and we might not get the same opportunity again (similar to when Liverpool signed Van Dijk and really pushed on and we stagnated).

The other concern is that a lot of the deadwood will be back with us next summer...

Completely agree, I got a lot of negative ratings earlier today got saying we are being left short.
We lack a cb who either starts at lcb or can cover ccb as we have no one if dier gets injured. I expect lenglet to start at some point and I think he elevates is as Davies is just not good enough on the ball and we nullifying our attack playing with cbs who aren’t progressing passers in contes system.

Gil is not ready, he doesn’t seem trusted and is not the player we need. We need a quality ball carrier as 5th choice and I hoped we get someone in like zaniolo to do that. Now I get he’s not a available yet but if our second string front 3 is Gil richie Moura, then it’s just not good enough for what we want to achieve.
I said we are left short agsin because time and time again we always fall short in the transfer window. We have done decent business and I know it takes time but it just again feels like we don’t have the ambition. We get 150m pumped in and we spend less than West Ham who don’t even have Europa league….

 

[bombarda]

If this is where we end, I think we're missing two first team players.

An upgrade on CB - I can see why we're waiting for the right player as this (like Romero) is someone we'll need as a core player for 5+ years.
A attacking midfielder - someone who can break down teams by direct runs (Zaniolo/Traore/etc).

The problem is that the league looks like it could be there for the taking this year and we might not get the same opportunity again (similar to when Liverpool signed Van Dijk and really pushed on and we stagnated).

The other concern is that a lot of the deadwood will be back with us next summer...

Worth remembering that Liverpool waited for Van Dijk though, as they knew he was the one they wanted but couldn’t get him straight away. So just getting somebody in now for the sake of it, isn’t necessarily the best option if first choice might be available Jan/next Summer.

 

[H-SF]

Yep, one injury to our attacking options and Lucas is our option off the bench every game. Not enough for 4 competitions and this schedule

That said, if Conte actually trusts and relies upon Gil, I won’t be annoyed. Gil is really good and ideally becomes 5th choice above Lucas in time.

 

[Timberwolf]

I think we need to remember we're in the CL too, if we get a couple of injuries at the back we are nowhere near the required level.

Is any club, though? Sanchez and Lenglet as our first 2 backup CBs is pretty bloody good compared to most clubs.

 

[tommyt]

Smokescreen

Wheelbarrow full of cash
Levy just waking up
Flight tracker
Last minute special

I refuse to believe this window is over yet ???

 

[H-SF]

Is any club, though? Sanchez and Lenglet as our first 2 backup CBs is pretty bloody good compared to most clubs.

Lenglet and Sanchez are good back ups at LCB and RCB respectively. We don’t really have a proper CCB back up though. Selling Tanganga and bringing in a talented Dier back up would have been ideal.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

If this is where we end, I think we're missing two first team players.

An upgrade on CB - I can see why we're waiting for the right player as this (like Romero) is someone we'll need as a core player for 5+ years.
A attacking midfielder - someone who can break down teams by direct runs (Zaniolo/Traore/etc).

The problem is that the league looks like it could be there for the taking this year and we might not get the same opportunity again (similar to when Liverpool signed Van Dijk and really pushed on and we stagnated).

The other concern is that a lot of the deadwood will be back with us next summer...

CB - we got Lenglet when we were told that Bastoni and Gvardiol are not available, since then we are not linked to much CBs (Zabarnyi)
AM - clearly Conte wants Zaniolo instead of Paqueta/Maddison, who is also not available

Conte himself has said we need two more transfer windows to become title contenders and some of you expect us to win the league this season ?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Funny how some on here never disagree with what Rob says but do when others post the same/similar comments on here.
Grow a pair.

Rob is a boffin and every now and again he knows what he's talking about. So people take their lead from what he says because without realising it or understanding why, they need direction

Whereas you lot are basement dwelling peasants with skin so pale you'd need factor 250 if you set foot outside in a cold winters day who never know what you're talking about and are in dire need of some structure being added to whatever random thoughts punch their way through the peasoup thick fog that addles the cavity between your ears.

Darwinian ITK

 

[funkycoldmedina]

If this is where we end, I think we're missing two first team players.

An upgrade on CB - I can see why we're waiting for the right player as this (like Romero) is someone we'll need as a core player for 5+ years.
A attacking midfielder - someone who can break down teams by direct runs (Zaniolo/Traore/etc).

The problem is that the league looks like it could be there for the taking this year and we might not get the same opportunity again (similar to when Liverpool signed Van Dijk and really pushed on and we stagnated).

The other concern is that a lot of the deadwood will be back with us next summer...

You're obviously privvy to more information than we are but on face value if the right players just aren't available then why fluff out the squad with next bests? If it's the case that we've had players in our sights that Conte wants and haven't pushed the boat then that's a different matter.

 

[Timberwolf]

Lenglet and Sanchez are good back ups at LCB and RCB respectively. We don’t really have a proper CCB back up though. Selling Tanganga and bringing in a talented Dier back up would have been ideal.

Think Lenglet just about has the profile to cover CCB too. He's not as dominant in the air as Dier but he's a better passer which would actually be really useful in that position.

 

[felmani26]

Very underwhelming end to the window, especially given we did all our business so early.

This time next summer we’ll be facing the same problems, with regards to outgoings who are out on loan , & needing a CB/AM.

This time next summer/January we'll have 2 positions of real need instead of multiple positions so we can dedicate our time and resources to securing the right people which looks like Zaniolo and Bastoni.

 

[EastUpperDK82]

If this is where we end, I think we're missing two first team players.

An upgrade on CB - I can see why we're waiting for the right player as this (like Romero) is someone we'll need as a core player for 5+ years.
A attacking midfielder - someone who can break down teams by direct runs (Zaniolo/Traore/etc).

The problem is that the league looks like it could be there for the taking this year and we might not get the same opportunity again (similar to when Liverpool signed Van Dijk and really pushed on and we stagnated).

The other concern is that a lot of the deadwood will be back with us next summer...

I agree on the CB part... but our two new top signings Richarlison and Bissouma are able to break teams down with creativity, ball-carrying and direct runs... and we can trust them to deliver and work hard. We have Lucas as well who can do that.

It's not like we are short there. If Conte wants a certain type of AM and he is not available now. We should wait.

I'm only concerned about injuries or fatigue in central defence right now... but we shouldn't just buy for fun.
It's clear that Conte wanted specific CB's like you mentioned. (Romero quality)

 

[King of the Lane]

I echo Rob's post tbh. Im pretty shocked that we havent upgraded to another CB and worry that we are so focused on very specific targets which is an issue we had under Poch. Im not convinced we will get anywhere near Gvardiol or Bastoni in Jan or next Summer.