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McFlash

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Has he trained with the first team much before?
I know it's a regular thing to let the kids who are impressing train as a kind of reward/recognition but I thought that was usually U21's, not players as young as Moore.
Be interesting if we were maybe thinking of fast tracking him, considering how highly thought of he seems to be.
 

kd2000

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Has he trained with the first team much before?
I know it's a regular thing to let the kids who are impressing train as a kind of reward/recognition but I thought that was usually U21's, not players as young as Moore.
Be interesting if we were maybe thinking of fast tracking him, considering how highly thought of he seems to be.
I would expect a few u21 run outs before any thought of fast tracking. I would say Hall, is more likely at this stage
 

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Just a general question without particularly expecting a full answer, but how have Barcelona managed to get 16 and 17 year olds up into their first team?
 

HildoSpur

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Just a general question without particularly expecting a full answer, but how have Barcelona managed to get 16 and 17 year olds up into their first team?
Presumably because those particular players are some of the best in the world for their age? Yamal is absolutely insane for 16 years old as an example. Gavi is only 19 but already has 27 caps for Spain. These are not your normal kids. Barcelona academy must be phenomenal.
 
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Marty

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Presumably because those particular players are some of the best in the world for their age? Yamal is absolutely insane for 16 years old as an example. Gavi is only 19 but already has 27 caps for Spain. These are not your normal kids. Barcelona academy must be phenomenal.
Gavi was also poached from Betis aged 11 so proof that Barcelona go in early when they see a prospect. Not calling them out for it, they're no different from most other big clubs in that regard.
 

HildoSpur

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Gavi was also poached from Betis aged 11 Barcelona go in early when they see a prospect. Not calling them out for it, they're no different from most other big clubs in that regard.
That is of course true however they still brought him through from 11 to 17 when he made his debut which are the key years in a young players development so their academy undoubtedly had a big influence on him.
 

McFlash

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I would expect a few u21 run outs before any thought of fast tracking. I would say Hall, is more likely at this stage
I would've thought so too, I was more wondering about how often we skip kids from the U18's to train with the first team?
Is he an unusual case?
 

Locotoro

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Just a general question without particularly expecting a full answer, but how have Barcelona managed to get 16 and 17 year olds up into their first team?
1) Barca also play their youth in their B team which plays in the Spanish equivalent of League 1 so they get quick exposure to professional football.

2)They go through their entire development playing one way and learning one system so by the time they get to the first team it's an easier transition. But it also means they don't adapt well to new set ups.
 

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Reo Griffiths update: He made one appearance for Wealdstone in the FA Trophy before being allowed to leave on a free for Portland Timbers reserve team.
 

coy-spurs1882

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Presumably because those particular players are some of the best in the world for their age? Yamal is absolutely insane for 16 years old as an example. Gavi is only 19 but already has 27 caps for Spain. These are not your normal kids. Barcelona academy must be phenomenal.
Pau Cubarsí is only 17 and has already played 3 CL games for Barca...
 

Cochise

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I imagine these training sessions are written into his contract. We had to offer him something that showed a clear development pathway so training with the first team will likely be the first step on that pathway.
 

Marty

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Pau Cubarsí is only 17 and has already played 3 CL games for Barca...
And maybe it's as simple as our kids aren't as good. We know our academy has had some poor years where it hasn't delivered well at all, and we know changes have been and are being made, but it takes years before we can harvest the fruits of those changes and even then there's no guarantee that the kids we have are talented enough.

Wonderkids who play at the highest level at 16, 17, 18 are rare, and those who do make it that early create a narrative (which is not their fault) that every academy should have a handful of wonderkids that good when that's simply not the case. That Barcelona have three or four of them at once now is insane.
 

thekneaf

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Just a general question without particularly expecting a full answer, but how have Barcelona managed to get 16 and 17 year olds up into their first team?
Desperation and serious quality in their youth set up
 

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