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TOTTENHAM vs SHEFFIELD
Date
Sep 16, 2023
KO Time
3:00 pm

Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 151 94.4%
  • Sheffield Win

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 5 3.1%

  • Total voters
    160

smallsnc

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Mar 30, 2017
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Bissouma being pushed in the box is missed too
Give the keeper a red on the handball a rest. It was not denying a goal scoring opportunity by definition and the yellow was appropriate. There may have been contact on Maddison, but he threw himself to the ground and earned a "flop" for it. Cannot tell if Johnson clipped defenders ankle or not from that angle. Son's was not a foul as he was trying to force his way between 2 defenders and VDV should not have been given the Yellow. Solomon should have had a corner but that happens all the time.

If someone wants to promote a conspiracy theory, this is not the match. If you want to show a ref doing a terrible job of consistency and game management, this is a great match to show what not to do. A 2nd yellow for their keeper would have been justified and sent a message about time wasting throughout the league, but for that we can only hope for next time.
 
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Reece_Spurs

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Sep 10, 2011
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Give the keeper a red on the handball a rest. It was not denying a goal scoring opportunity by definition and the yellow was appropriate. There may have been contact on Maddison, but he threw himself to the ground and earned a "flop" for it. Cannot tell if Johnson clipped defenders ankle or not from that angle. Son's was not a foul as he was trying to force his way between 2 defenders and VDV should not have been given the Yellow. Solomon should have had a PK but that happens all the time.

If someone wants to promote a conspiracy theory, this is not the match. If you want to show a ref doing a terrible job of consistency and game management, this is a great match to show what not to do. A 2nd yellow for their keeper would have been justified and sent a message about time wasting throughout the league, but for that we can only hope for next time.
Pretty much spot on, although I think the foul on Maddison was a penalty, however as you said the way he threw himself to the ground didn't do himself any favours and probably why it wasn't given, VAR should have made the ref look though.
 

djhotspur

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Aug 31, 2021
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Wow reading the comments from their fans is hilarious, how can they be so deluded? They keep going on about an elbow is was a little jump into him and vdv had his arms at his sides
Apologies all. I know you were waiting for me to review. Here goes.


Hmm. Having looked at that video, NONE of the decisions are controversial. Some are debatable, and one is an obvious error (Solomon shot). End Of.
i agree bar the maddison one. Who kicks him clearly on his standing foot In the Achilles. It’s a clear penalty
 

Dannyspur

I just don't know anymore!
Aug 17, 2004
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Give the keeper a red on the handball a rest. It was not denying a goal scoring opportunity by definition and the yellow was appropriate. There may have been contact on Maddison, but he threw himself to the ground and earned a "flop" for it. Cannot tell if Johnson clipped defenders ankle or not from that angle. Son's was not a foul as he was trying to force his way between 2 defenders and VDV should not have been given the Yellow. Solomon should have had a PK but that happens all the time.

If someone wants to promote a conspiracy theory, this is not the match. If you want to show a ref doing a terrible job of consistency and game management, this is a great match to show what not to do. A 2nd yellow for their keeper would have been justified and sent a message about time wasting throughout the league, but for that we can only hope for next time.

Compare the foul on Maddison to the penalty given against Sonny at Brentford. The Brentford player’s legs went up in the air in the opposite direction to the minimal contact made. Either both or neither should have been penalties.
 

Spurs4CL

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Jan 7, 2015
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I'm surprised they put the Robbie Williams song in the matchday edit, it's a big fuck you to Poch, Conte and Mourinho. Not that I'm complaining, just thought they'd have swerved putting it in an official vid
 

tommo84

Proud to be loud
Aug 15, 2005
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11,940
Jonathan Wilson on the Guardian Football podcast was particularly scathing about Sheffield Utd’s time wasting. He calls Heckingbottom’s rant “ludicrous” after Barry Glendenning had claimed it all sounded reasonable or fair (can’t remember which word he used), and went on to say Sheff Utd were a disgrace. So far the only journalist I’ve heard really highlight and explain where the 12 minutes came from (which might be because it seems every other journalist was at Old Trafford).
 

Whazam

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Aug 8, 2019
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TBF, thought this was a terrible edit. Many of the truly baffling situations aren't in there. For example, the situation where Robinson (?) tries to get Son carded by hitting him from close with a free-kick just to miss him entirely so Son picks it up and starts driving at goal. Bankes then blows the whistle, cards Robinson (unsportsmanlike behaviour I guess?), and lets him retake the free kick?!
Or the push on Bissouma in the area wasn't enough contact, but an even lighter touch from Brennan in their area, and the goal gets chalked off for a foul?
This. I've been thinking about it ever since and can't figure out the decision making. I really need someone to explain why Son wasn't allowed to continue playing.
 

jonnyp

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Jun 11, 2006
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The sad fact is that we've had worse ref perfomances than that. Sevilla away in the UEFA league semi-final is one of the worst and most infuriating displays from a ref I've ever seen.

Then we have the Mendes disallowed goal with a blind Clusterfuck in charge. Also remember being 2-0 up at OT and then United getting a ridiculous penalty (eerily similar to the one in the Sevilla game) which turned the game around.

Remember the Newcastle game a few years ago where PEH gets blatantly dragged to the ground and the ref manages to give Newcastle the freekick. And on the freekick Andy Carrol heads the ball straight down onto Dier's hand and the **** ref awards a penalty. Same happened away to Bolton with Kanoute.

I remember also some shocking sending off calls for Zokora (our appeal was even rejected), Keane (appeal rejected too), Mido (guess what, appeal fucking rejected by the FA again) etc that never would've happened to Man U, Arsenal or Pool at the time.

But there's been so many horrendous decisions against us over the years, especially after Poch confronted Mike Dean after a typical Dean performance.
 

Cochise

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Aug 8, 2019
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Is it normal for a ref to punish a team for fans behaviour? It seemed like the ref told Son that because it was the second time it had happened he was giving the ball to Sheffield UTD. It was an odd call.
 

Col_M

Pointing out the Obvious
Feb 28, 2012
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Is it normal for a ref to punish a team for fans behaviour? It seemed like the ref told Son that because it was the second time it had happened he was giving the ball to Sheffield UTD. It was an odd call.
The rules

Dropped ball

PROCEDURE

  • The ball is dropped for the defending team goalkeeper in their penalty area if, when play was stopped:
    • the ball was in the penalty area or
    • the last touch of the ball was in the penalty area
  • In all other cases, the referee drops the ball for one player of the team that last touched the ball at the position where it last touched a player, an outside agent or, as outlined in Law 9.1, a match official
  • All other players (of both teams) must remain at least 4 m (4.5 yds) from the ball until it is in play
The ball is in play when it touches the ground.


I can only assume he made an error in that the second ball WAS in the area rather than where the first call was. Simple mistake.
 

XIIIMPC

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Jul 23, 2010
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The sad fact is that we've had worse ref perfomances than that. Sevilla away in the UEFA league semi-final is one of the worst and most infuriating displays from a ref I've ever seen.

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It was a quarter final but holy shit I am so glad someone else brought that up. Losing that tie was the biggest miscarriage of justice in my entire life of being a Spurs fan. The reffing wasn't any better when we played them at home either. Poulsen stamped on Jenas' head at one point. Just a vile laundry list of terrible decisions.

I've been waiting years for us to play Sevilla again in any fixture so we can beat them. It makes my blood boil just thinking about it. Horrific.
 

Dannyspur

I just don't know anymore!
Aug 17, 2004
10,228
14,065
The sad fact is that we've had worse ref perfomances than that. Sevilla away in the UEFA league semi-final is one of the worst and most infuriating displays from a ref I've ever seen.

Then we have the Mendes disallowed goal with a blind Clusterfuck in charge. Also remember being 2-0 up at OT and then United getting a ridiculous penalty (eerily similar to the one in the Sevilla game) which turned the game around.

Remember the Newcastle game a few years ago where PEH gets blatantly dragged to the ground and the ref manages to give Newcastle the freekick. And on the freekick Andy Carrol heads the ball straight down onto Dier's hand and the **** ref awards a penalty. Same happened away to Bolton with Kanoute.

I remember also some shocking sending off calls for Zokora (our appeal was even rejected), Keane (appeal rejected too), Mido (guess what, appeal fucking rejected by the FA again) etc that never would've happened to Man U, Arsenal or Pool at the time.

But there's been so many horrendous decisions against us over the years, especially after Poch confronted Mike Dean after a typical Dean performance.

below is a picture of the "foul" that Hojbjerg committed to give away that freekick in the Newcastle game. Their player dived at him from 6ft away yet VAR didn't look at it and then went on to award a ridiculous penalty.

IMG_8644.jpeg
 

aliyid

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Dec 28, 2004
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Not sure if Insta links work but here goes as this absolutely killed me



Video is cute and all but then you see the top comment underneath…

IMG_7760.jpeg
 

Reece_Spurs

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Sep 10, 2011
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Korean fan cam experience, and a certain goalscorer appears at the end of the video

I need to move to South Korea..






That bloke is fit.







Seriously though, that's a lovely video, really try and get involved even with the chanting and singing. I know a few season ticket holders that like to call our place the "tourist stadium" etc etc, yet i've been to games with most of them and all they do when things aren't going our way is bitch and moan with there arms folded muttering under their breath exactly what the manager should do and the subs he should make (We all know one of those guys right? P.S, if you don't it's probably you :D)

I'd rather have many more guys like these in the stadium then the moaners and groaners.
 

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