Match Threads Spurs vs Newcastle - Match Thread

[stevenurse]

Nice record at home so far lost to West Spam last season and now to Newcastle

We've been shit in just about every game we've played there. 4 nil against the worst team the PL has ever seen, but apart from that, absolutely shit.

He's earned the chance to turn it around, but 4 wins in 15 in the league... If that was just about anyone else, we'd be questioning the managers position. Especially if you couple that with the performances.

Pochettino has been my favourite manager possibly ever, and until January I'd have happily tucked him in with the mrs, but since the turn of the year, and especially the last few months he just seems to have gone mental.

 

[Actonspur_FromCOYS]

We couldn't do it in Madrid, and we couldn't do it today. The way to beat us is to put nine men on the edge of your box and to run like fuck on the break. (It helps if Sanchez doesn't bother to check where the striker is.) We have to learn how to beat teams who do this, and we have to learn it in a hurry.

City face this all the time. They drag play one way, then quickly switch it. A ball is played inside the full back and the overlapping player hits a first-time low ball across the six yard box for a tap in. We have the players who can do this, but we don't. Why not? City players are coached how to do it and ours, clearly, are not.

It's like Poch is trying to emulate Pep from 10 years ago with the tikataka football of Barcelona. If we keep the ball we can score and the opposition can't philosophy. The problem is you also can't score if you don't ever attack or shoot. How this seems to be rocket science is beyond me..

 

[Actonspur_FromCOYS]

People giving Sanchez a lot of flak today for a goal that is just as much Rose's and Poch's fault. Our intensity and communication is way off the mark and Rose was ball-watching just as much as Sanchez on the goal.

Not to mention our shambolic attacking display in literally every game since january. Our lack of movement on and off the ball is unacceptable and that is solely up to Poch to adress. Where is the passion that he's always talking about? Where is the hunger?

If I were Levy I'd have a sitdown with Poch and make it very clear that the performances for the past 9 months aren't good enough.

The worst part? If worse come to worst and Poch is sacked after the performances fail to pick up, I have zero faith that we'll get a decent replacement in.

The reason I don't care to blame sanchez is how in God's name do we not score at least 2 against this Newcastle side at home?! If we had any cut and thrust about us we should be hitting them for 4. We shit all over them in every position on the pitch.

It's obvious there is something very very wrong when you have 2 shots on target vs Newcastle at home with the players we have.

 

[allatsea]

Before we are all put on suicide watch perhaps it is best to see how we are once Ndombele and Lo Celso and Sessessegon are match fit and Poch has been able to select the side he wants from fit players.

 

[spursfan77]

Fullbacks are biggest problem. Rose is almost 30 and starting to look like it. Played great last year but can't do it physically anymore every single time. Davies and KWP are mid-table level guys at best. Not awful as squad guys but not starting level players for top 4. Aurier - who knows?

Liverpool and City are better than us across the board obviously but I think biggest difference between us and them is at the FB spots. With no pace, threat, or playmaking from the FB spots, we are too narrow and everything inside gets squished. Not sure what Poch can do to fix this issue.

To not try and turn a centre back into a right back would be one of them!

 

[spursfan77]

Just back from the game and I’m not even angry, just sad. We were awful and I spent my money on it. Absolutely no idea what direction we are heading atm.

Yeah I’m not angry either, just confused as to why the team seem to have forgotten how to move the ball quickly. It felt like a complete and utter waste of time being there didn’t it? The team just didn’t look motivated.

 

[Espen Mowinckel]

I believe tha the window shutting and gjetting the squad together is what is needed. Formatiln and tactics is governed by the players poch has, and he needs them 100% focused. Now they are not

 

[spursfan77]

This is from Poch’s press conference. Doesn’t sound great, does it?

“I think this is my sixth season and the most unsettled group we are working with. That is why we are relaxed and calm. Some situations we cannot fix. Nothing to say about that, situations that are going on in the squad. Still we need to wait......”

“that's why you not only need quality players, you need a very good dynamic, and strong team bond and at the moment that situation in our group is still far far away from what we expect.”

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I guess this is the painful bit, and not just the transfers.

I really dislike losing.

If nothing else, over the course of the next three league games (I know it's the NLD next) I'd really like to see all eleven players on the pitch at least understand what they and the guy next to them is doing. If we really are rebooting or restarting or whatever you want to call it, then at least show some fucking cohesion and understanding out there.

The essence of life is going forward.

 

[SugarRay]

Well bad game to judge it on maybe but atmosphere at the new place leaves a lot to be desired.

Was incredible in the Goal Line bar before kick off, song sung for every player with gusto, reached peak “oh my god this is amazing” as everyone went nuts watching the Ashes win before heading up the stairs, then... erm

Know there’s been so posts about it but we really don’t sing any songs. It’s embarassing. “Super Tottenham” and “yid army” that’s about it. Our ground can look as nice as you want but we don’t even remotely fill it, it was silence most of the game

Very disappointed all round

It’s a place for big games. City and Ajax were incredible.
Everything else has been a struggle it seems.

The songs are pretty bland which doesn’t help. I think we need a few more flags on display too but ultimately we’ve picked up a fair few tourists which is to be expected.

It’s not their fault by the way. Expectation and dare I say it, a sense of entitlement has crept in.

Our best chants are ‘spurs go marching in’ and ‘park lane/shelf side/paxton’ imo but they struggle to take off, especially when it’s a bog standard game and when we’re playing shit.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Fair play to the club though. They're doing all their best to make the new stadium feel like home, going so far as to drop the occasional 1-0 home defeat to a shite opposition into the mix.

It's like we never left.

 

[sebo_sek]

We couldn't do it in Madrid, and we couldn't do it today. The way to beat us is to put nine men on the edge of your box and to run like fuck on the break. (It helps if Sanchez doesn't bother to check where the striker is.) We have to learn how to beat teams who do this, and we have to learn it in a hurry.

City face this all the time. They drag play one way, then quickly switch it. A ball is played inside the full back and the overlapping player hits a first-time low ball across the six yard box for a tap in. We have the players who can do this, but we don't. Why not? City players are coached how to do it and ours, clearly, are not.

I'll go even further. City adopted the 9 men behind the ball for long spells against us. We simply can't handle it. Every one knows it.

 

[Metalhead]

I'll go even further. City adopted the 9 men behind the ball for long spells against us. We simply can't handle it. Every one knows it.

Yep, been a problem for such a long time. We just aren't inventive enough - we are way too predictable.

 

[sebo_sek]

The Hungarian league, the captain of Ferencvarosu went to the fans to apologise for a 4-1 defeat. Kudos for the sense of honour on him.

 

[topper]

It's like Poch is trying to emulate Pep from 10 years ago with the tikataka football of Barcelona. If we keep the ball we can score and the opposition can't philosophy. The problem is you also can't score if you don't ever attack or shoot. How this seems to be rocket science is beyond me..

But Barca style always had an end product - and of course players to make the transition from possession to incisive attack i.e. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta et al!

 

[Espen Mowinckel]

This is from Poch’s press conference. Doesn’t sound great, does it?

“I think this is my sixth season and the most unsettled group we are working with. That is why we are relaxed and calm. Some situations we cannot fix. Nothing to say about that, situations that are going on in the squad. Still we need to wait......”

“that's why you not only need quality players, you need a very good dynamic, and strong team bond and at the moment that situation in our group is still far far away from what we expect.”

As i Said in my post. Window needs shutting to stop all the politi s and everyone to get onboard

 

[SugarRay]

I'm sick and fcuking tired of no one crossing into the box until the 75th minute.

If you're not getting through the middle, knock it out to Rose or KWP and instruct them to cross. If nothing else, you are creating chaos in front of their box and that's WAY more productive than having a gentle kickaroundat at the halfway line like some Sunday punters.

Especially with 6’2 Kane in the box. He’s great in the air too

 

[Hakkz]

It's like Poch is trying to emulate Pep from 10 years ago with the tikataka football of Barcelona. If we keep the ball we can score and the opposition can't philosophy. The problem is you also can't score if you don't ever attack or shoot. How this seems to be rocket science is beyond me..

More like the worst part of Wenger's tenure.

 

[guiltyparty]

It’s a place for big games. City and Ajax were incredible.
Everything else has been a struggle it seems.

The songs are pretty bland which doesn’t help. I think we need a few more flags on display too but ultimately we’ve picked up a fair few tourists which is to be expected.

It’s not their fault by the way. Expectation and dare I say it, a sense of entitlement has crept in.

Our best chants are ‘spurs go marching in’ and ‘park lane/shelf side/paxton’ imo but they struggle to take off, especially when it’s a bog standard game and when we’re playing shit.

Unfortunately 75% of games, in my experience, are like the Villa/Newcastle ones

Agree on the flags. It feels like a really nice posh hotel, it’s almost overly welcoming. Must be lovely for other teams to play at, nothing intimidating at all.

 

[spursfan77]

Yep, been a problem for such a long time. We just aren't inventive enough - we are way too predictable.

Isn’t that why we’ve signed lo celso and ndombele?

I was even more concerned about this game on Friday when I heard Tanguy was out because he’s the one who tries to pass forward. He was a big miss already.