Match Threads Spurs vs Newcastle - Match Thread

[worcestersauce]

Conclusions:
Poch has not worked out that we need to implement the man city and Liverpool style of attack when faced with a bank of five and four.... Which is: run at the players and beat the man or get brought down for a free kick or penalty!!!

Instead we pass sideways, hoping to give Son or Kane or Moura an extra metre to push the ball and shoot... Or we send it wide to one of our not so great crossers of the ball and generally pick out one of the opposition's three CBs. Great tactic, works every time.

It's Sissoko or Winks, not both. I'd choose Sissoko as he tracks back and covers the gaps.

Sanchez is a complete liability. He ball watches and never tracks the main attackers. His defending is really poor. So slow to react and not willing to take responsibility. Today he waved and signalled that Rose should pick up Joelinton... Their no 9, while he filled a gap and marked no-one! Poch could easily fix this, but hasn't yet.

Lamela cannot play against packed defences. Too slow to make a decision and needs space to play through balls, so is effectively useless against teams who park the bus.

Lo Celso wide right is complete nonsense. What was the point of that. In the middle or leave him on the bench pls Poch, don't destroy his confidence out wide for no reason.

Playing the ball wide to cross it into the box rarely if ever works. The sooner we rediscover the interplay that Alli and Kane found, with our current players, the better.

Also, we desperately need Tanguy already to play every important game!

I don't think Lo Celso was tactical as I understand it KWP took a knock so we he had to cover the right hand side, actually I thought he moved around well and started finding space and the ball as the game went on.
The problem with playing it wide is that we didn't cross into the box once we had played it wide at least until it was too late and hopefully we will rediscover the interplay between Dele and Kane when Dele comes back and they are actually playing together.
I am right with you on the running at them, any defender hates that and it makes them nervous at the very least, I am not sure we tried it once though.

 

[mattdefoe]

Yup football is becoming something you watch out of duty rather than for pleasure.

I'm getting more entertainment out of NFL at least they don't constantly roll about.

It’s getting that way isn’t it sadly. Some of the players these days are just not likeable , and they get praised for play acting to by commentators and constantly praised as superstars when some of them really aren’t

 

[fecka]

People giving Sanchez a lot of flak today for a goal that is just as much Rose's and Poch's fault. Our intensity and communication is way off the mark and Rose was ball-watching just as much as Sanchez on the goal.

Not to mention our shambolic attacking display in literally every game since january. Our lack of movement on and off the ball is unacceptable and that is solely up to Poch to adress. Where is the passion that he's always talking about? Where is the hunger?

If I were Levy I'd have a sitdown with Poch and make it very clear that the performances for the past 9 months aren't good enough.

The worst part? If worse come to worst and Poch is sacked after the performances fail to pick up, I have zero faith that we'll get a decent replacement in.

 

[rossdapep]

Have to wait until Lo Celso and Ndombele are well and truly bedded in but I never want to see Winks and Sissoko on the same pitch again. Neither can receive the ball facing their own goal and neither can do anything when facing up against a defender. Winks is a rhythm player, can keep it moving along and find those better in the final third whilst Sissoko needs space to drive forward with the ball. Against those who sit back it's completely redundant to have both on the pitch. But we knew that already

 

[scat1620]

Boy, that was a rough day. I need cheering up so I sure could do with Lighty explaining to me ("as I keep telling everyone") why this is all fine, like a dog-in-a-burning-house meme, right now.

 

[Pistols At Dawn]

I'm sick and fcuking tired of no one crossing into the box until the 75th minute.

If you're not getting through the middle, knock it out to Rose or KWP and instruct them to cross. If nothing else, you are creating chaos in front of their box and that's WAY more productive than having a gentle kickaroundat at the halfway line like some Sunday punters.

 

[rossdapep]

People giving Sanchez a lot of flak today for a goal that is just as much Rose's and Poch's fault. Our intensity and communication is way off the mark and Rose was ball-watching just as much as Sanchez on the goal.

Not to mention our shambolic attacking display in literally every game since january. Our lack of movement on and off the ball is unacceptable and that is solely up to Poch to adress. Where is the passion that he's always talking about? Where is the hunger?

If I were Levy I'd have a sitdown with Poch and make it very clear that the performances for the past 9 months aren't good enough.

The worst part? If worse come to worst and Poch is sacked after the performances fail to pick up, I have zero faith that we'll get a decent replacement in.

I'd go as far to say everyone from Lamela, Sissoko to Rose and Sanchez was at fault.

We let them casually pass it into the middle and applied zero pressure on the ball.

Watch Liverpool and City and I bet neither of them allow that to happen to them.

 

[SpartanSpur]

People giving Sanchez a lot of flak today for a goal that is just as much Rose's and Poch's fault. Our intensity and communication is way off the mark and Rose was ball-watching just as much as Sanchez on the goal.

Not to mention our shambolic attacking display in literally every game since january. Our lack of movement on and off the ball is unacceptable and that is solely up to Poch to adress. Where is the passion that he's always talking about? Where is the hunger?

If I were Levy I'd have a sitdown with Poch and make it very clear that the performances for the past 9 months aren't good enough.

The worst part? If worse come to worst and Poch is sacked after the performances fail to pick up, I have zero faith that we'll get a decent replacement in.

A lot of top managers would be very interested in the Tottenham job, make no mistake about it. Whether they would work is another story but there'll be plenty of interest.

I think Mourinho or Allegri would both be very interested currently. Not sure about his new contract but I'd imagine Benitez would too. I love Poch and hope he can turn this all around but I do wonder how a proven winner with proven tactical prowess would get on with our squad.

 

[King Ledley 26]

Have a feeling it's going to be a painful season and pochs last one

 

[g_harry]

I'm sick and fcuking tired of no one crossing into the box until the 75th minute.

If you're not getting through the middle, knock it out to Rose or KWP and instruct them to cross. If nothing else, you are creating chaos in front of their box and that's WAY more productive than having a gentle kickaroundat at the halfway line like some Sunday punters.

Davies actually but in a few crosses whilst didnt find targets at least made newcastle defenders do something.

 

[hughy]

Lucas did a little ball control trick on the halfway line today. That was fun.




The rest was absolute shit. Review over.

 

[jolsnogross]

The truth is we're far too easy to defend against.

We don't move the ball with zip and are static with our movement.

So we can't break the lines anywhere enough for the poseession we have.

With the quality we have on that pitch it's pretty ridiculous and it's been going on for way too long.

This is a coaching problem that Poch has to address but hasn't.

We're regressing because of it.

This is a problem that Poch and the players have not addressed and makes you question their footballing intelligence given that it is repeatedly working against us for quite some time now. It's not form or injuries or whatever. It's a major issue that's preventing us from competing at a higher level.

One of the big differences between us and the top two is that we rely on a traditional #9, which is a dream for the deep defending sides. Not only is Kane ineffective there (not always but often enough), he's actually helping their cause by constantly playing with his back to goal, not moving much, crowding space in that central area, and building the center-halves' confidence with every loose ball they tidy up around him. That central three of Newcastle today, with a bank of midfielders in front of them, had it too easy. Nobody dribbled at them, or broke the lines from deeper for a through ball. Combined with the reluctance for anyone to hit a first time cross or eye-of-a-needle pass, we have a side that over-values 'control' and possession compared to chance creation.

We must solve this issue, or our season will never get going.

 

[TottTommy]

Four wins in the last fifteen Premier League games.

That CL final is papering over a lot of issues. We have conceded four goals in three games, and are heading (on the current average) for another dozen plus losses this season.

I am not trying to vilify Poch, but the current trend isn't encouraging at all.

 

[Langers]

I feel we’ve been going backwards for a while. The Champions League fluke, sugar coated our demise. All three of our performances have been woeful this season. The last three months of last season were equally as bad. I love what Poch has done for us, however unless he can turn this around, which I don’t think he can, I’m done with this. Liverpool and City are so far ahead of us and if we’re losing to relegation favourites at home we’ll never catch them. Today is the first day I’ve lost my confidence in Poch. He didn’t win fuck all, but I loved him none the less. ?

 

[devonlad1977]

It’s all so static, no movement just sideways passing. We are unable to breakdown teams who put everyone behind the ball and why we struggle against teams that park the bus. This, for me, is a Poch and tactics/selection issue and has been for a while. Contracts, transfer speculation, the transfer window have all unsettled the manager and squad. This can be turned round and players coming back will help. Also Atmosphere was as bad as the football today.
Ndombele was missed in the middle, Sons 1st one back, Dele to come and Lo Celso settling in. I’m keeping the faith in Poch to sort it.

 

[Pistols At Dawn]

I know I'm a big defender of Sissoko. I just feel he does his job as described - power, ball retention, pace, good crosses. Until further notice, he should be on the team sheet.

But Winks? Seriously? He's the king of the square ball. If I ran the zoo, I'd give Skipp a runout until Ndombele is fit.

 

[Northernspurs]

How far away is tanguy?

 

[Northernspurs]

I feel we’ve been going backwards for a while. The Champions League fluke, sugar coated our demise. All three of our performances have been woeful this season. The last three months of last season were equally as bad. I love what Poch has done for us, however unless he can turn this around, which I don’t think he can, I’m done with this. Liverpool and City are so far ahead of us and if we’re losing to relegation favourites at home we’ll never catch them. Today is the first day I’ve lost my confidence in Poch. He didn’t win fuck all, but I loved him none the less. ?

I am with u... think it's time to consider if.Poch can take us to the next level...wheres Ancelotti these days?

 

[Northernspurs]

Lucas did a little ball control trick on the halfway line today. That was fun.




The rest was absolute shit. Review over.

Me and the kids were so bored I spent more time trying to control their behaviour so missed that!

 

[Spur4life]

Nice record at home so far lost to West Spam last season and now to Newcastle