Match Threads Spurs vs Forest

[markt]

Hilarious that Nuno thinks Maddison should have seen red

Yeah he got the wrong man. Yates should have had 3 yellows in that game by the letter of the law and possibly one more cos he's a dislikeable ****

 

[sparx100]

He’s been shite since the Luton away game where he got ridiculously sent off . Bentancar still our best 6 or 8 has to be given a run now !

even lo celso ahead of Maddison

Problem I have is that no player is playing themselves as indispensable in the middle. They all seem to be shit and then come on subsequently and do a bit more. Everyone lauding Bentancur and Hojbjerg and next week they will be shit and Sarr and Biss will be ok. Need some stability. I thought Lo Celso played well in his cameo over Maddison......

We just need some players to get in form in the middle.

 

[hughy]

It won't happen because it's not an Ange formation but I'd love for us to play 3 CB's just for one game, and see if it makes us look a but more secure at the back. The trio of Udogie, Porro and Bissouma either side and in front of our two CB's offer us absolutely nothing defensively.

 

[chas vs dave]

Bisoumma started very well, big part of our start and the first goal. People decided he was at fault for their goal and criticised him for the rest of the half. He didn’t make as many mistakes as Hobjerg. Just a bit of consistency is fair.

We're you at the game?

 

[sparx100]

Yeah he got the wrong man. Yates should have had 3 yellows in that game by the letter of the law and possibly one more cos he's a dislikeable ****

Yates should have been sent off in the last game I seem to remember he was a wind up merchant last time asking for cards.

 

[HNIM]

Yeah he got the wrong man. Yates should have had 3 yellows in that game by the letter of the law and possibly one more cos he's a dislikeable ****

Yates deserved a card for simulation on that.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

I'm not even a huge fan of Ange, but fuck me some of you are hard to please.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

We're you at the game?

Not today but been enough times to know that a lot of fans that go don’t know there arse from the elbow.

 

[gerishep]

Don’t disagree but still prone to the odd sloppy pass in bad areas.

Aren't they all.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

The post he was responding to said "Hojbjerg was exceptional." He certainly wasn't exceptional, but he really helped us to see out the game.

He started off well with some good tackles, settled us down with some sensible passes and had a good long shot. Then he had a minute of madness that put us under a lot of unnecessary pressure.

He demonstrated why he is playing a cameo role. He only got a sniff today due to the piss poor efforts of Bissoma and Sarr in that first half. He is a square peg in Ange's round hole

 

[fecka]

I'd be interested to receive the evidence of how we have progressed in the last 4 months from those that disagree. I'm not saying that in a combative way, genuinely interested in other perspectives and what I may have overlooked?

I’d suggest we have progressed, just not in the way you think. We were playing on confidence and bravado at the start but I believe the players are now more conscious of their mistakes and end up losing confidence when they realize they’ve made an error.

in short, they’ve moved from being unconsciously incompetent (like when your mate beats you at a game when he tries for the first time by buttonmashing. “Beginners luck”) in terms of Ange's style of football to conscious incompetence. A dip on the road to conscious competence.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

It’s not good enough if we want to seriously challenge for honors going forward. Someone earlier mentioned Conte’s comments about us after the Southampton game. I agreed with what he said then; it’s been true about us as a football club for decades. It’s no coincidence that the only club two serial winning managers, albeit they weren’t necessarily a good fit for us, have failed to win a trophy at is Tottenham. There’s a cancer of underachievement at the club.

Here's an opposing view.

You remember when we got 2 red cards and 2 long term injuries to key players in the same game? Maybe if that one freak game didn't happen we would have got more than 1 point in 5 games? Instead of losing to Chelsea (H), Wolves (B), Villa (H), West Ham (H), we would have been good for something like 9-10 points from those?

That's the difference from where we are and still being right in the title race.

 

[Fidget]

I'd be interested to receive the evidence of how we have progressed in the last 4 months from those that disagree. I'm not saying that in a combative way, genuinely interested in other perspectives and what I may have overlooked?

Sorry but didn’t understand the question

 

[chas vs dave]

Not today but been enough times to know that a lot of fans that go don’t know there arse from the elbow.

You say that, but you've already insinuated that Hojbjerg didn't change the game.

You've immediately made a comment on Hojbjergs mistakes, rather than his influence.

I don't recall him making so many misplaced passes, and I can't find the stats.

All you've done is throw out some passive aggression.

 

[ExpatFan]

Not today but been enough times to know that a lot of fans that go don’t know there arse from the elbow.

Bit like your grammar then?

 

[Mr Pink]

I watched it live and PEH absolutel changed the game.

Yes he had a sloppy moment late on but he changed our tempo and was way better than Bissouma.

Not even close.

He starts over Bissouma against Newcastle.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

You say that, but you've already insinuated that Hojbjerg didn't change the game.

You've immediately made a comment on Hojbjergs mistakes, rather than his influence.

I don't recall him making so many misplaced passes, and I can't find the stats.

All you've done is throw out some passive aggression.

I didn’t insinuate anything, I said Bisoumma started well and helped the team control the opening period and had a big part in the first goal and if he he got worse as the the half went on you could say it was similar to the game Hojbjerg had, although I actually thought he made more mistakes on the ball. A bit of consistency in criticism is all I’m saying.

 

[Fidget]

Here's an opposing view.

You remember when we got 2 red cards and 2 long term injuries to key players in the same game? Maybe if that one freak game didn't happen we would have got more than 1 point in 5 games? Instead of losing to Chelsea (H), Wolves (B), Villa (H), West Ham (H), we would have been good for something like 9-10 points from those?

That's the difference from where we are and still being right in the title race.

Closer to the truth than most and the extra pressure on players who had to fill in. You can really lose your mojo and get it back. Change one lightbulb and the whole lot blow and sometimes never get it back 100%.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Bit like your grammar then?

ouch

 

[arunspurs]

Bisoumma started very well, big part of our start and the first goal. People decided he was at fault for their goal and criticised him for the rest of the half. He didn’t make as many mistakes as Hobjerg. Just a bit of consistency is fair.

Big part of first goal is basically him making a 5 yard straight pass...

Bissouma slowed up the game, didnt do quick passes, offered not much for ball when Romero was looking for options, lacking awareness as usual when opponents were attacking... and once Forest scored, he completely lost control of midfield against a relegation threatened side at home.

Bissouma as usual been Casual on ball and casual off ball. Great decision to sub him off at HT. Time is running out for him. Our starting XI & squad can do better than him