Match Threads Spurs Vs Brighton

[Gilzean at the near post]

We got extremely lucky today

I hope Hugo does not feature again this season

We all know that he will

 

[easley91]

Surely any prospective manager will be weary hearing the Poch chants every game now. Would make them think anyone other than Poch is already screwed with the fanbase.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Not one defender marked Dunk.

Therein lies the problem, obvious to everyone.

The odd thing it to me that we know Harry Kane has ghosted in at the far post a few times as part of our corner routines so the players know that it is a viable option

 

[Dr Know]

Gianni vio is our set piece coach. He is still alive and to my knowledge still at the club.

FYI it was Gian ventrone who passed away. He was a fitness coach, not a set piece man.

Thanks for clarifying that

 

[Bing]

We got extremely lucky today

I hope Hugo does not feature again this season

He made two fine saves that kept us in the game.

 

[Misfit]

It's been a real luxury having a solid presence in goal for a decade. Even though the sun is clearly setting, I think people are underestimating the potential difficulty in replacing the position. Certainly not unless you're prepared to pay a price that used to make people's eyes water even when applied to top tier strikers.

 

[DarwinSpur]

It's been a real luxury having a solid presence in goal for a decade. Even though the sun is clearly setting, I think people are underestimating the potential difficulty in replacing the position. Certainly not unless you're prepared to pay a price that used to make people's eyes water even when applied to top tier strikers.

Agree but that price has to be paid now. Need a keeper who can pass

 

[slartibartfast]

Agree but that price has to be paid now. Need a keeper who can pass

And maybe kick it further than inside our own half. Oh and keep it on the actual pitch lol.
Sorry for the Lloris bashing.
His shot stopping was second to none imo. A fantastic servant to the club and one of the best keepers we've had.
Just always annoyed me we never seemed to be able to improve his distibution. I'm not entirely convinced any coaches even tried tbh.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

We can. I'd be astonished if we do.

Well we did , five home wins on the bounce , keep the faith.

 

[DarwinSpur]

Lol Shearer has said the PEH pen shout was stonewall but is now complaining that the Isak one isn't.

they are exactly the same incident. Two players going for the ball and incidental contact being made. Either both are penalties or neither are.

 

[septicsac]

Only caught bits of game today, but usuals stood out.
Dier, an accident waiting to happen as per usual, at fault for their disallowed goal.
Kane, rescuing spurs for over 10yrs.
Cracker from Sonny, more please.
Managers not up to it, bringing on Tanganga almost cost us big time, poor decision.
For once decisions went out way, if I was Brighton I would be very pissed off today, the officials mugged them off.
Slight improvement it seems, but that's from a very low mark.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Only caught bits of game today, but usuals stood out.
Dier, an accident waiting to happen as per usual, at fault for their disallowed goal.
Kane, rescuing spurs for over 10yrs.
Cracker from Sonny, more please.
Managers not up to it, bringing on Tanganga almost cost us big time, poor decision.
For once decisions went out way, if I was Brighton I would be very pissed off today, the officials mugged them off.
Slight improvement it seems, but that's from a very low mark.

Saying Kane rescuing Spurs over the last ten years is a bit of a disservice to some of the players during peak Poch years. Have difficulty understanding that line of thinking. Implies that he has carried the team by himself during that time. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of the comment?

 

[Misfit]

And maybe kick it further than inside our own half. Oh and keep it on the actual pitch lol.
Sorry for the Lloris bashing.
His shot stopping was second to none imo. A fantastic servant to the club and one of the best keepers we've had.
Just always annoyed me we never seemed to be able to improve his distibution. I'm not entirely convinced any coaches even tried tbh.

It's good to get it off your chest sometimes. Yeah, the shot-stopping is the crucial aspect of the position but it's difficult to ignore the limitations as the game keeps moving on.

Certainly just being a good shot-stopper is no longer enough for the new generation of top keepers.

 

[jolsnogross]

Ultimately we all want the same result but are you confident Poch is the man to deliver it? When we didn't have the right players for his tactics in his final year we were abysmal to watch for the most part. Similarly at PSG when he was forced to play that front 3 without the requisite legs behind them it wasn't great, and I don't think he showed enough tactical nous to get around that. I don't think our current squad is anywhere near good enough to play how he'd like to, and with Levy it's unlikely he'll get everything he wants. Kane (if he stays) and Son are both are much older now, our midfielders don't have the joint qualities of being able to press and be press-resistant, we don't have any full backs (playing both Udogie and Porro is a huge gamble), our CBs can't play in a back 4 and/or are absolute dogshit. Are you confident Poch is the man to get the best out of this group of players?

You're describing a pathway to more of the same - boring, spiritless, and grim. Old slow attackers. Full backs that can't defend. Midfielders that can't play ball. Clueless centre halves. And you want to find another donkey manager that can try to get a tune out of those kinds of attributes? Come on.

Good on the fans for the Poch songs. Keep it going. In general our fan base is too compliant and part of the niceness of the club in general. Don't really demand too much. Nice day out putting up with this dross. At least the Poch chants signify some sense of demanding change.

And whether you like it or not, every new manager will be measured against him because he was the best modern one we've had. That's great in my opinion - reach or exceed the Poch level or you'll be under achieving. And since the man himself is available, it should be one hell of a manager that is chosen instead of him. And I suspect the only way the Poch chants will ever end for good is if he comes back and doesn't achieve the 'Poch level' himself. That's a bet I'm more than willing to take. And if it isn't him, that's fine as long as it's a Poch-esque sty;e manager that wants to play on the front foot and knows how to build togetherness and purpose in the squad.

 

[Freddie]

Saying Kane rescuing Spurs over the last ten years is a bit of a disservice to some of the players during peak Poch years. Have difficulty understanding that line of thinking. Implies that he has carried the team by himself during that time. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of the comment?

What an odd thing to take issue with. He didn't point out the other good players we had in a 4 year period a few years ago?!

The point is he's been papering over crap performances for ages, and in many of those years he's been the difference between top 4 and abject mediocrity. Don't need to over-analyse it!

 

[Freddie]

You're describing a pathway to more of the same - boring, spiritless, and grim. Old slow attackers. Full backs that can't defend. Midfielders that can't play ball. Clueless centre halves. And you want to find another donkey manager that can try to get a tune out of those kinds of attributes? Come on.

Good on the fans for the Poch songs. Keep it going. In general our fan base is too compliant and part of the niceness of the club in general. Don't really demand too much. Nice day out putting up with this dross. At least the Poch chants signify some sense of demanding change.

And whether you like it or not, every new manager will be measured against him because he was the best modern one we've had. That's great in my opinion - reach or exceed the Poch level or you'll be under achieving. And since the man himself is available, it should be one hell of a manager that is chosen instead of him. And I suspect the only way the Poch chants will ever end for good is if he comes back and doesn't achieve the 'Poch level' himself. That's a bet I'm more than willing to take. And if it isn't him, that's fine as long as it's a Poch-esque sty;e manager that wants to play on the front foot and knows how to build togetherness and purpose in the squad.

You misunderstand my point. I think Poch part 2 could be boring, spiritless and grim. How do you expect him to transform this squad into something exciting when history seems to suggest that he isn't that adaptable if he isn't given a bunch of players who are tailor made for him?

People harking back to the good old days and taking the easy option are just living in hope. Going back to an old manager almost never works. I'm on the side of another Poch-esque manager. We need to look forward.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I thought he was the coach that passed away

That was our fitness coach.

 

[jolsnogross]

You misunderstand my point. I think Poch part 2 could be boring, spiritless and grim. How do you expect him to transform this squad into something exciting when history seems to suggest that he isn't that adaptable if he isn't given a bunch of players who are tailor made for him?

People harking back to the good old days and taking the easy option are just living in hope. Going back to an old manager almost never works. I'm on the side of another Poch-esque manager. We need to look forward.

I don't think I'm misunderstanding at all. You're saying Poch is washed up and would not try to set the team up to play the type of exhilarating footy we played when he was making shit happen at Spurs. I disagree. Our squad wasn't up to much the last time he joined and he transformed it. He could do it again. He's been a success at every club he's managed so far.

I'm not taking an easy option or living in hope. He's bloody good, he proved it here, and you've got no evidence that he's washed up. The 'never go back' mantra is just superstition. Of course, we could appoint him and he could crash and burn, but that's true of anyone we appoint.

Eddie Howe used his time away to study up at Atletico and add a bit of additional nous to an already good coaching and team building approach. I doubt Poch is sitting around looking to re-live the auld days like some one-hit wonder going on tour again. That's how you and many seem to characterise him. I disagree. I think he's preparing for the right opportunity to excel again.

We were never boring, spiritless, and grim under him. His nightmare season was a 4th place finish and Champions league final! The season after he was given 12 games with record signings who had injuries and adaptation issues and we sacked him. History has since revealed that was a nonsense decision. We just reached the end of a cycle and had a hard time breaking teams down.

I am very much looking forward. Poch or better. And Poch is available now.

 

[thebenjamin]

Wow just saw Lenglet's foul. How was that not a pen and WTF was he doing

 

[Freddie]

I don't think I'm misunderstanding at all. You're saying Poch is washed up and would not try to set the team up to play the type of exhilarating footy we played when he was making shit happen at Spurs. I disagree. Our squad wasn't up to much the last time he joined and he transformed it. He could do it again. He's been a success at every club he's managed so far.

I'm not taking an easy option or living in hope. He's bloody good, he proved it here, and you've got no evidence that he's washed up. The 'never go back' mantra is just superstition. Of course, we could appoint him and he could crash and burn, but that's true of anyone we appoint.

Eddie Howe used his time away to study up at Atletico and add a bit of additional nous to an already good coaching and team building approach. I doubt Poch is sitting around looking to re-live the auld days like some one-hit wonder going on tour again. That's how you and many seem to characterise him. I disagree. I think he's preparing for the right opportunity to excel again.

We were never boring, spiritless, and grim under him. His nightmare season was a 4th place finish and Champions league final! The season after he was given 12 games with record signings who had injuries and adaptation issues and we sacked him. History has since revealed that was a nonsense decision. We just reached the end of a cycle and had a hard time breaking teams down.

I am very much looking forward. Poch or better. And Poch is available now.

You are misunderstanding. I haven't said he's washed up, just that we don't have the kind of players that would allow him to play how he likes and I'm doubting if he can can adapt or acquire what he needs.

The not going back thing is more than superstition. Old issues always return, and when fans suspect it's happening their frustrations become obvious much faster than the first time because they're almost waiting for them. It's the same with all relationships.

Would also dispute that he's been successful at every club. Most PSG fans don't remember his spell with fondness. They finished behind Lille in his first half a season with them, and although he won the league the next season the football was really bad and they lost in the domestic cups (and champions league, but that's more forgivable). He was sacked despite having another year left.

I'm not gonna be super annoyed if we get him. He's obviously a smart guy so there's every chance he's learned from his errors but I'd rather we looked elsewhere.